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<0> jgaddis: heh, that's cool
<1> that cant be good
<1> everytime my iPAQ boots up, the application gwes.exe crashes
<1> ****s having to re-sync everything, and re-install my apps
<2> that would be because iPaq's **** too :)
<0> kosmo: you watching The Unit?
<2> schitzo: negative.
<0> kosmo: it's dsomewhat interesting
<0> kosmo: being in HD is always cool
<2> I guess trying to transfer a gig of data over 802.11b is sorta a dumb idea
<2> yee ha. Johhny Cash live at Montreaux
<0> kosmo: dork
<2> this is about the correct timeframe from when I saw him here in town.
<2> Im just waiting for Boston Legal to come on.
<3> hi all
<4> hey OM
<3> hi jgaddis
<3> jgaddis: time to bring out the champagne?
<4> not yet, i haven't accepted yet
<3> do let us know when...
<5> hello, ive got a problem: i compiled a new kernel on my laptop hard drive (i plugged the hard drive in my desktop comp tho), and everything is fine, i can boot from both kernel. but then i put the hard drive back in the laptop, and it won't boot on the newest kernel. lilo gives me the error "Map file write; BIOS error code = 0x99\nsuccessful\nMap file write; Bios error code = 0x99"
<4> undefined1_: sounds like something's ****ed up
<0> jgaddis: new gig? promotion? electioned?
<0> undefined1_: leave #linux or leave the hack channels
<4> schitzo: new position, same organization
<5> jgaddis: the other kernel gives me the same error, but it will still boot :/
<0> jgaddis: cool
<3> undefined1_: you heard schitzo
<5> yes
<5> whats wrong
<6> is possible make one instalation of debian 3.1 from win 98 using .iso ?
<0> musggl: that makes no sense
<6> because my cdrom is not ok .. getting lot errors
<0> musggl: Please read http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html -- it will increase your chances of getting some help instead of getting an icepick in the ear
<6> middle instalation .. crash
<6> ok
<0> well ****s for you then
<6> I saw that begginer of instalation,
<6> i am downlading 50 Mb ... security things
<6> can I do that ... after ?
<6> exist one command to run "update security" ?
<0> hey safemode
<7> had to work on my gf's hdd ... ****ing thing borked out somewhere around lba 16498
<6> safemode, do you know if exist one command to run "update security" .. debian?
<3> musggl: apt-get upgrade will do it if security.debian.org is in your sources.list
<0> ok I need to acquire a faster server for home
<6> thanks
<6> lets go ..
<0> GAH
<4> what?
<0> stupid PHP
<4> heh
<0> need to set a TZ environment variable or something whit this new build
<0> whee, that fixed that problem
<0> I'm so glad I know what the **** I'm doing and I don't have to ask y'all questions
<0> because then y'all would mock me and laugh at me and.. er wait...
<0> y'all already do that
<8> schitzo: Glad to help. :-P
<3> right
<0> Benoni_: wait? who are you and why are you involved in this?
<0> I want a gunship. would make teh commute to work a alot easiser
<8> I'm involved in this because you are speaking more or less in public, in a more or less public forum.
<3> Benoni_: ok, ok, cool it
<0> Benoni_: ok, but your not allowed to laugh at me or mock me
<0> only OM is
<3> he's my bitch!
<4> schitzo: Already do what?
<0> jgaddis: laugh at me
<9> hi to all i am having a issue with my centos box i have bashrc PS1 set to [\u@\h \W]\\$ but my user sees it as -bash-3.00$ what is wrong in here ?
<10> PoLiCi: what bashrc did you set?
<10> PoLiCi: also, there are ways to avoid reading bashrc, for instance, ssh can skip all login scripts
<9> RelDrgn: /etc/bashrc
<9> that is the only bashrc i have
<4> Heh, Lindsey's coming back.
<3> your ex-fiance?
<4> Yeah, she's here about everyday, but then she's been leaving. She just called (it's 10.30pm) to say she's coming back for the night.
<10> PoLiCi: odd
<11> hi jgaddis
<10> PoLiCi: because on my system its /etc/bash.bashrc
<10> PoLiCi: though that might be a debian patch to bash
<11> ...? patch to bash?
<10> hm, no, it seems like bash really does use bash.bashrc
<10> jgaddis: very recursive.
<4> Don't blame me, blame Red Hat.
<11> RelDrgn: never saw that.
<11> still, never really looked hard. I'm currently updating Ubuntu-5.10 as I type.
<0> I just upgrade libxml2 and php
<8> According to the docs on a CentOS 4.0 box I have handy, bash reads "/etc/profile" on startup of an interactive login shell. I see no mention at all of "/etc/bashrc".
<8> Though it's possible that any given box's setup might include, e.g., a default ~/.bashrc that sources /etc/bashrc.
<10> Viking667: I figured something like calling a configuration file "bash.bashrc" would be something Debian would do, but it seems to be the way bash works.
<10> Benoni_: actually, theres two files
<11> mrm.
<10> profile and ~/.bash_profile are used on login shells only
<11> Now, I have a strange problem you lot might have seen.
<10> bash.bashrc and ~/.bashrc are re-run for every shell
<11> On my K6-II@533, with 512MB memory, stuff crawls. I've got quite a few programs running. Take Mozilla-firefox. When I type to start it up, it takes upwards of 1m40 seconds. to start up.
<8> RelDrgn: OK, I know about /etc/profile, ~/.bash_profile, and ~/.bashrc. But I'm seeing no documentation mention of /etc/bashrc as something built into the shell's initialization behavior.
<11> Now, when I log INTO brick from another machine, and start mozilla-firefox, it comes up WAY quicker!
<10> yeah, which is why its bash.bashrc ;)
<4> ]$ ls -l /etc/bashrc
<4> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1171 Apr 15 2005 /etc/bashrc
<10> jgaddis: who asked you? :P
<8> RelDrgn: I see no documentation mention of bash.bashrc either.
<10> jgaddis: what does man bash say at the end in the FILES section?
<11> hmm. 291 secs for a 500MB cd. Not too bad to write.
<8> RelDrgn: If that's being used on your box, then either bash itself has been patched or all users get a default ~/.bashrc which itself sources /etc/bash.bashrc. I'd guess the later more likely than the former.
<4> It doesn't mention /etc/bashrc
<12> god damnit
<12> thats 6 nights in a row now
<4> /bin/bash /etc/profile ~/.bash_profile, ~/.bashrc ~/.bash_logout ~/.inputrc
<0> docfu: what that you were out drinking?
<13> Debian adds the patch for bash.bashrc
<14> Grr.
<12> schitzo yeah
<12> this can't be good for my health
<10> mwilson: ah
<13> Although Chet documents it somewhere too.
<13> Debian didn't come up with it.
<14> I'm attempting to install NetBSD on my PowerPC based Macintosh, and it's NOT being friendly.
<8> And I actually do see a default "/etc/skel/.bashrc" which sources "/etc/bashrc" on the CentOS 4.0 box I'm looking at.
<3> later
<10> ok, so the answer is: "all the distributions did something different and PoLiCi is going to have to read the docs to figure out what he's done wrong"
<10> so in this case, since he's got a centos box, the user might have broken their .bashrc to no longer source /etc/bashrc
<13> <shrug> The INVOCATION section of Bash's man page makes it plain what init files it uses under what conditions.
<13> IMHO, though, a user configuration that sources a file in /etc is a broken one.
<8> RelDrgn: Yeah, that sounds like a good summary of the situation.
<10> or just one that should expect to change when the system configuration changes
<9> RelDrgn: the user does not have a .bashrc can i just create it ?
<8> PoLiCi: If you see a file named "/etc/skel/.bashrc", that's what is *intended* to be the default ~/.bashrc for newly created accounts.
<10> PoLiCi: yeah. You could even put the PS1 setting in there.
<13> On BSD, bash only cares about /etc/profile, and only if it's a login shell.
<8> PoLiCi: If your CentOS box looks like mine, that default ~/.bashrc will source /etc/bashrc and therefore pick up any PS1 setting you've put there.
<13> Benoni_: Users shouldn't be modifying files in /etc
<9> the .bash_profile does have this if [ -f ~/.bashrc ]; then
<9> . ~/.bashrc
<9> but that file does not exist
<8> mwilson: That's PoLiCi's issue. If he's root on his box and wants to made an administrative decision about all users' default prompts, he has that authority.
<9> i have it only in skel and root
<15> on a home box users are also admins. where stuff goes is largely moot.
<13> TbT: I can't agree.
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