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<0> whyzzyrd: My Java games are pretty fast 8)
<1> Lion-O: as fast as if you'd coded them in C or C++?
<0> there, I said it.
<0> whyzzyrd: dunno, never tried that. I don't think it'll matter.
<0> My latest Java game is a cool nethack remake without all the overhead ;)
<2> so, w/o java?
<0> you just fill in your character and it'll decide immediatly if you have what it takes to survive. If you do you'll win, otherwise you lose 8) not entertaining but it works(tm)
<3> Lion-O: java and "without all the overhead" doesn't really match :P
<4> i've never actually joined that channel. i might have a go.
<4> later.
<5> Cynic: You'll be back :)
<6> [20:59] *LadyByte* Lion-O died in the Gnomish Mines on level 5. Poisoned by a chaotic killer bee. DYWYPI Lion-O ?
<0> PolarWolf: hmm? Here on or Neko? ;-)
<5> Lion-O: Here, of course
<0> Revenger: lol
<7> whyzzyrd: java is fast
<7> whyzzyrd: it's bad developers that make it slow
<8> schitzo: Yeah, and Python is enterprise-cl***.
<2> its as fast as mol***es in january
<7> Steakk: only when you write it
<2> I dont write it
<1> schitzo: and the fact that it's bloody interpreted.
<2> never have, never will
<0> share the love!
<4> PolarWolf: i mean, i'll visit #linuxhelp later. maybe. probably a waste of an irssi window, really :P
<2> ewww, #lh?
<5> Cynic: Probably
<7> whyzzyrd: bah. the bytecode is. not the actual source. like python or perl or ruby
<0> PolarWolf: so, but what did #lh do this time? I know they have this nice bot called hell
<0> hell
<0> hey, its gone
<5> Lion-O: Yeah, what'd you do to the mutt?
<4> lol
<1> schitzo: no, not like python, perl or ruby. But not like C, or C++ either.
<4> at least X is here, for the moment. until it splits again.
<1> schitzo: I'm not trying to compare it to ***embler.
<7> whyzzyrd: no it sits in the middle. I also can't take my compiled C code and drop it on leenoux from my solaris machine
<6> not anymore.
<1> schitzo: Isn't there iBCS any more?
<6> pw: you do?
<7> whyzzyrd: beats me.
<6> saves me an ssh session :P
<9> heh
<7> whyzzyrd: I wouldn't trust it just like I don't trust the 32-bit to 64-bit thunk layers that happen to slow crap down
<1> schitzo: I had major issues dropping java code from windows on solaris. Sun Java code. (not MS-pish).
<7> whyzzyrd: just like I also have found that bytecode that's built with a 1.4.x JDK can run slower on a 1.5.0 JDK
<5> Revenger: Should arrive shortly. Seems like the process hung itself
<1> schitzo: my senior hons project used java crypto, and it would bollocks run on solaris. Ran on my windows box fine, and my linux box fine..
<7> whyzzyrd: I haven't ever had any problems moving .jars around.
<9> Revenger: you should have kept him out of there. :)
<7> whyzzyrd: oh. the crypto stuff is funky. I know why too, I've dug into that code.
<5> Bah
<7> whyzzyrd: that's a problem with Solaris though and not Java
<1> schitzo: that's probably because I narfed something up, but I have no idea why it would work on windows and linux, but not solaris. My lecturers couldn't make it go either, and they poked at it for an afternoon.
<8> w00f!
<5> Revenger: Servers are being bitchy about the amount of connections
<5> Revenger: Should give the thing its own IP address
<4> HellHound: there you are! we thought you'd gone! who's a good puppy? who's a good puppy! *stratchstratch*
<7> whyzzyrd: it took us about a week, but we figured it out. We had to fire up debuggers to find all the crap though.
<8> Cynic: Way to go, you freaked him out.
<0> Cynic: what did you do NOW ? :P
<7> Cynic: geesh
<4> aww. poor puppy, he must have got all excited and run off for a pee
<2> long as he dont piss on the carpet
<1> schitzo: I'm not sure that Sun would make Java not work properly on Solaris, rather than linux/windows, per-se.
<10> how do i update cygwin to have extra packages?
<10> im trying to build firefox
<7> whyzzyrd: it's in the crypto stuff and it was a bug
<0> oh no, the looney is back
<1> schitzo: We certainly wrote it off as a bug at the time, about 5 years back.
<11> Indeed. but I am a tired looney so won't be much trouble :)
<6> Zymurgy: retry
<12> Revenger: you were peeking :)
<6> of course.
<2> ****
<2> just drank out of a soda can i used as an ashtry
<4> Steakk: it happens more often than it should :/
<2> yeah it does
<12> Steakk: yummy... :-/
<13> see? you should stop smoking
<4> s/stop smoking/get an ashtray/
<0> HH's IP changed?
<6> si.
<0> Revenger: so whazthenewIP? ;)
<1> Steakk: is that the one that was on fire the other night?
<5> Lion-O: Just telnet from shanta :P
<0> Revenger: ta
<0> PolarWolf: hmm ;)
<6> PW: evil :P
<14> telnet is more reliable
<5> Ey Stephen
<14> I can never manage to persuade the fewking bot to DCC with me
<14> it hates me
<0> I think I'll cheat a little at Jedi Knight outcast.
<2> whyzzyrd: an ashtray
<14> heya Ferdinand
<5> smsie: How's tricks
<5> s/$/?/
<5> Revenger: Is it better?
<6> its scooter :P
<5> Revenger: Meaningless to me
<6> its --- different.
<14> PolarWolf: what, besides some ****wit upper-manager promising that I'd have some code ready in 2 weeks when it's about 6 weeks work, and I had stated clearly that I wanted 8 weeks to do it? Fine :)
<5> smsie: Ah, just another day on the job then :)
<1> smsie: so, you'll take 8 weeks over it, and say that you asked for 8 weeks in the first place.
<14> PolarWolf: I'm sticking to my 8 weeks...I'll deliver in 6. I have email archives of where I told the dopey twat how long it would take
<5> smsie: *nod*
<14> whyzzyrd: I like to build in about 20-30% leeway. Gives me the room to **** up and start again if I need to without having to try to bodge a bad design because of lack of time
<5> This song is so good :)
<1> smsie: yup. Always a good idea.
<14> in other news...the workshop FINALLY worked out what was wrong with my motorbike
<14> it has been declared dead
<5> You have a motorbike?
<1> smsie: this the one you just bought?
<14> past saving in fact
<14> whyzzyrd: yeah. I've never managed to complete a journey on it. But by the time they came to recover it a few hours later (or the next day) it worked perfectly
<14> turns out the oil pump was malfunctioning...so after a few miles it would overheat
<14> turns out that the last time it died, it screwed up the piston rings
<14> so the bike has been announced not worth the work to fix, and they're going to replace it
<9> well thats good
<14> at least I feel vindicated
<9> unless this is a known design failure, but i'll stop that right now. :)
<14> there was a suggestion that it was somehow my fault, or that I was imagining things...since it always worked when they tried it
<14> so, with luck, I will have another bike by Friday
<14> or certainly by Monday
<11> hey smsie
<14> heya Dave
<14> how's the job going?
<5> Hmm, Rammstein - Klavier
<15> what u ppl think about mandrake linux
<13> just because im curious, why do you care what characters are in a nic?
<16> ZiRaa: we think you should spell!
<15> spell what
<7> ZiRaa: words.
<15> What people here think about Mandrake Linux? is this better?
<13> the use of "U ppl" is deprecated. use "you people" instead.
<17> no.
<17> mandrake is inferior.
<7> Damnyankee: heh
<13> I dont use it, I cant say.
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