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<0> "ISA Server 2004 is an application-layer firewall, virtual private network, and
<1> so I can imagine that if you focus on that problem alone while using Google you'll come across a *lot* of documentation written purely with the ***umption of some basic knowledge in mind.
<2> egad
<1> and that is why its important to start with the basics.
<0> ... web cache server". Sounds like this ISA thing isn't "just a proxy", and that "firewall client" is probably a vpn client.
<3> RelDrgn yes you get it right
<2> m33p!
<3> :)
<3> RelDrgn: should I look for a vpn client for linux?
<2> gah!
<0> danny-khi: I wonder if Microsoft VPN would have a linux client...
<4> ISA is M$ enterprise firewall product
<4> Fred: PPTP
<4> unless it does IPsec as well
<1> hm, good thinking. it should.
<2> use a PIX :)
<3> RelDrgn: why it wouldnt we are talking about internet its same for both windows and linux TCP/IP and UDP isnt it?
<5> damnit...my mouse stopped working in windows, and in windows you cant 'rmmod psmouse && modprobe psmouse'
<5> that ****s...gotta reboot
<2> sheesh
<0> danny-khi: VPN adds an extra network layer
<4> Crisco is too ****ing expensive
<1> but purrty
<6> and they have blinky lights
<4> you won't get a PIX for cheaper than an ISA setup
<6> but but.. BLINKY LIGHTS!
<1> yeah... purrty
<3> RelDrgn: but my Network Admin told me that I can do that he himself doesn't know how but he is confident that it is possible
<5> mmm...blinking lights....seizure initiators!
<1> and some of their routers have a nice roundish red window thingie
<6> blinky blinky blinky blinky blinky blinky
<2> Tamahome, depends on the traffic...PIX 506 works well in SOHO environments
<1> damn, who is l33ching my pr0n ?!
<4> db2: I wasn't commenting on how well or not it works, merely on the cost
<1> schitzo: what colours?
<2> yeah, PIXen isn't cheap...
<2> pr0n?
<6> Lion-O: don't know. I'd have to go to the other building and wander into the data center
<7> I dunno, you can get used PIX 505's and 515's off eBay for... well... relatively cheap, a few hundred.
<7> Maybe
<7> It's been a while since I was pricing them, I almost got a 505 for home, but... eh, "cheap" is still "money not spent on babes and beer".
<8> hi
<7> hello
<1> schitzo: no, we went for lunch
<6> Lion-O: oh. what did you get me?
<1> schitzo: nothing. I realized it was 23:15 so I skipped lunch.
<6> Lion-O: bah. I'm hungry too
<9> Ribs.
<5> lunch at 23:15? damn
<1> Steakk: mah
<1> virtual lunch
<5> ahh, heh
<2> Synapsis, gonna have seafood buffet for lunch
<2> lunch/dinner
<10> hat command do i use with ip tables to allow all outside IP's to connect to the server on port 80?
<10> i can access it, locally but from connections outside it wont let me, and all ports r forwarded.
<11> Elops: Why would you need to forward the ports, are you talking about a NAT router with a linux server behind it?
<1> Elops: www.iptables.org
<4> I haven't really decided on dinner... I'll probably eat late at the pub
<10> Lion-O, I know
<1> Tamahome_: well, we had fries with sateh 8) Had to get something, it was getting awfully late to dinner.
<10> I am looking for the command
<10> what command do i use with ip tables to allow all outside IP's to connect to the server on port 80?
<1> Elops: "iptables"
<4> it's already 17:22 here
<12> hi, i can't get kdm to load by default at startup. it always goes into text login. i tried sudo init 5, but doesn't work. any clues?
<4> so I'll have to figure something out soon
<1> Nulo: what distribution ?
<13> guinness and chips!
<12> Lion: Kubuntu
<12> Lion: it worked ok before i messed it up installing some mail notifiers
<1> Nulo: make sure your graphic environment has been properly configured. It doesn't use runlevel 5 for this btw.
<12> Lion: when i type startx at propmpt i get the gui running, but the fonts look awkward
<12> Lion: what runlevel should i choose
<4> Guinness... the beer that eats like a meal
<13> mmmm ;)
<1> Nulo: iirc 2. The login manager is simply another service. Check /etc/init.d/kdm
<13> i love me some guinness.
<9> Now there's someone who can't possibly be here to ask a question.
<6> this should be good
<14> if he was called google_man_wikipedia he would be the sum of all human knowledge :)
<12> Lion: changed HEED_DEFAULT_DISPLAY_MANAGER to false
<15> me
<12> will try rebooting, cheers
<15> :)
<6> DaveHowe: wonder what type of implant he would need for htat
<1> Nulo: no need to reboot. You can just try to start the ....
<1> oh well, cluebies.
<14> schitzo: an extra large helping of Clue?
<15> what a version of linux work good
<15> that manrak good
<1> googleman: www.distrowatch.org
<4> that's something I'm not overly fond of either...Microsoft has induced people to believe that major system reconfiguration *requires* a reboot, even when it doesn't
<15> k
<15> or redhat
<16> poof
<13> eriq
<1> Tamahome_: aye. Well, the hardware doesn't but sometimes the software can't cope.
<14> "you have moved the mouse. please press any key to reboot and have this change take effect"
<13> DaveHowe: hah
<1> Tamahome_: like changing the IP adress of a nic.. "you'll have to reboot" :P
<13> Lion-O: on pre-2000, anyway..
<16> Qim, Lion-O, DH, Sean
<15> how to install linux on windows Xp in same partition of the dosk
<15> how to install linux on windows Xp in same partition of the disk
<1> Cynic: you know what puzzled me back then? It also supported DHCP. So what if the DHCP was to issue another lease?
<1> googleman: rtfm
<15> were is
<4> Eric
<1> googleman: www.distrowatch.org
<14> Lion-O: that was fine. however, turning DHCP ON or OFF needed a reboot.
<16> Lion-O: maybe it was under the ***umption the network wouldn't change
<16> Lion-O: and the reboot was really a Just In Case scenario
<1> DaveHowe: true. But isn't that basicly the same as manually changing a static IP? That too required a reboot (or so the system told you).
<17> good for googleman
<9> Aww man. Did I miss the question? heh
<14> Lion-O: yeah - but once dhcp was established as the method, there was a completely different block of code to obtain and renew leases
<1> I wonder if we should invoke the "no ban evasion"
<4> I was more commenting on the whole sociological changes -- how people percieve computing
<1> r0uter-: go kid someone else. Now either behave or find yourself another channel.
<16> holy ****
<17> why
<16> TD has their new pricing structure come May 1st
<16> $37.50 for NSF cheques
<4> I'm with Scotiabank
<16> and PAPs, bills, etc
<14> right - time for bed. only 10:30 but still getting my body used to a 7am startup :)
<16> Tamahome_: that's okay, I don't do that sort of ****
<16> Tamahome_: PLUS transactions will be $5, from $3
<6> Lion-O: I was about to do the ban evasion thing
<6> oh well
<1> schitzo: it wonders why I banned it from the channel. Pretty amazing, I thought HH kicked it out.
<16> Tamahome_: I leverage my visa so I can avoid too many transactions.
<15> thx Lion-O
<1> schitzo: some people don't know how to read a kick reason I think.
<16> Tamahome_: IOW, I just spend on there, and pay it off before it's due
<1> thx ?
<6> Lion-O: you spoke up first I guess. so you got to be the lucky one
<13> Lion-O: that's a pretty good point
<6> Lion-O: er, some people don't know how to read and comprehend
<13> (re DHCP)
<13> iirc, winipcfg had a release/renew option
<1> and now he can get lost.
<2> m00
<7> Holy ****!
<7> $37.50?! OMG I'm screwed
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