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<0> http://www.leofuchs.com/images/thepictures/Rock%20and%20Doris/E20%200189%20Rock%20Hudson%20&%20Doris%20Day%20-%20Gentle%20Kiss%20-%20Leo%20Fuchs.jpg
<1> looks like he builds a lot of closets.
<2> well, time to ford the rivers.
<0> hahahaahah
<0> there's rock hudson
<3> Rock Hudson was the Tom Selleck of the '60s. And if you ask me who Tom Selleck is, I'll have D-side kick you.
<0> http://www.firsttvdrama.com/illinois/rock2.jpg
<4> kick me anyways, I don't give a ****
<3> heh
<0> anyway he caught the hiv and died and everyone was shocked when his friends told everyone 'oh yeah he was a big pole smoker'
<5> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_Hudson
<3> Always played the ladie's man in the movies but was a major homo in private.
<1> gotta watch out for that high five.
<1> Ka-bar: must have ****ed for him.
<1> no pun intended.



<1> that wasn't the era where being a homo***ual was "okay" by any stretch of the imagination.
<1> TenBaseT: i wonder if he ever put up drywall. :D
<4> well, at least we know who the channel homophobes are.
<1> I resent that.
<4> good.
<6> Anyone has any clue how to setup reverse zones in bind???
<3> No, in fact, he was married for a while, in a deal arranged by his manager/publicist, to try to hide the fact that he was gay. Being "out" in the 50s and 60s was a definite career-ender.
<3> peder_: maybe
<1> indeed.
<1> i always felt very sorry for those guys.
<3> Then there was Liberace who was so in-your-face flaming that most people ***umed it was just an act...
<6> Ka-bar - Got an example or something??
<1> heh
<3> peder_: "reverse zones in bind" is a pretty broad topic... try to narrow it down a little bit, please.
<6> I have a domain, running on bind. I also have ipv6 adresses, that I want to reverse to my domain. How can I do that?
<0> I'm not a homophobe at all, I just have a sensitive gaydar
<3> Ooooh. OK. I don't do ipv6 yet. Can't help you there, sorry.
<0> I've got tons of gay friends
<0> Adam, Jeff, Tyler, you. It's all good.
<3> peder_: may I suggest the #dns channel? I think they talk about DNS and Bind there, but I'm not completely sure. ;)
<5> was a interesting article on DNS amplification DDoS attacks
<3> peder_: there is also a #bind channel but it requires a keyword to get in.
<3> peder_: I would also suggest google.
<0> actually, John is running PRIDE this year and invited my wife and I to ride in the parade. I think we'll have to p*** on that
<1> Ka-bar: i'm sure his reverse hasnt been delegated to him anyway.
<0> dns amplification is bad juju
<7> XyZzY: gadi's article?
<1> you were just talking about that last night
<7> saw it before gadi wrote about it
<7> when I figured out what was happening, it was a total "well duh!" moment.
<3> dns amplification?
<7> such a simple attack.
<3> not heard of that.
<3> surprising actually.
<7> Ka-bar: want me to run you through it?
<7> Ka-bar: how it works?
<3> sure
<7> ok.
<7> three hosts
<7> BadTXT, Target, RecursiveDNS
<7> someone sets up a DNS record anywhere on the net with a TXT record that's 1500 bytes of gibberish, right?
<7> They then query RecursiveDNS for BadTXT
<7> now RecursiveDNS has the BadTXT record cached
<7> and they repeat this process for RecursiveDNS2, RecursiveDNS3 etc...
<7> now
<8> sending error report to zone labs...oh well
<7> they use a botnet to send bazillions of spoofed requests for BadTXT to RecursiveDNS 1-100
<7> and they're spoofed with a source IP address of Target
<7> the request is typically < 100 bytes
<7> the response is 1500
<7> it's a 15X amplification factor using recursive DNS servers to do the damage
<3> holy ****
<0> so thats an order of magnitude of amplification
<7> yeah
<0> which puts it on the order of smurf for effectiveness
<7> when I figured out what was going on, it was a total "well duh!" moment
<7> gadi's comment was that DNS was going to wind up going the way of SMTP soon.
<3> yeah, that's nasty
<7> eg, only being recursive for trusted hosts.



<7> and what's interesting, is that uh... ****, me and one of the .ro people in here discussed a very similar attack about three years ago.
<0> SILSOR
<7> it wasn't silsor
<0> where the hell is silsor
<0> no, I'm looking for him. I'm very dissapointed in him
<7> who's our resident ro-er that we tend to forgive
<1> tavi?
<3> tavi-san:
<7> no
<7> it was another one. not tavi
<0> ricki ticky tavi?
<0> steg?
<7> hahahah
<7> no, not him either
<3> Xeon?
<7> we had another regular ro person for a long time
<0> silsors IM name is currently "I heart Rachel"
<7> TenBaseT: a giant can of beer should fall on his head at any moment.
<9> hahaha
<3> haven't seen silsor around here in a while..
<7> maybe it already did...
<3> silsor isn't from .ro is he?
<0> hhahah
<0> no, he's from soviet canuckistan
<3> LOL
<7> heh, the canucks got a wake-up call lately.
<1> no kidding.
<7> the whole world doesn't love them for thier odd pronunciation of about.
<1> good for them for neutralizing it.
<7> amen.
<0> and I'd like to take this opportunity to congratulate Canada on becoming a jihadist target
<0> We didnt think you had it in you, canada!
<7> I'm tellin ya... the mounties are Damned Good at dealing with electronic crime and digital surviellance
<7> in forensics, they're pretty much the standard by which all others are judged.
<7> digital forensics anyway
<0> yeah better than our ****sticks who dont even know their own email addresses
<7> the RCMP are damned good at that ****. My theory is, that poeple are too ****ing cold to go outside to commit crime. So they do it indoors with a computer instead.
<3> On the other hand, the media is falling all over themselves to be sickeningly PC about it...
<3> http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=50538
<7> Ka-bar: yeah
<0> I've hahahahahah awesome
<0> 21:56 < Ka-bar> http://wnd.com/news/article.
<0> ack sirry
<3> "The Toronto Star reports, with jaw-dropping dim-wittedness, that "it is difficult to find a common denominator" among those who would kill us."
<7> lol
<7> hahahah
<7> "it's the jihad, stupid"
<3> "We live on a doomed continent of ostriches."
<7> yeah
<7> that's a great article
<7> holy crap my leg hurts
<1> what did you do
<0> did you **** it up at the dojo?
<7> yeah, last week
<1> find out the hard way that "nip-san" isn't a term of respect?
<7> kicking with my left leg, and my right hamstring went fubar
<3> ow
<7> I can kick with no problem with the hurt leg
<7> but when it's the base leg, holy hell it hurts.
<3> so you can move it, you just can't support your weight with it...
<3> that ****s.
<7> I can support my weight with it, just can't support my weight with it with my other leg up at head level
<7> I may take some ibuprofen here in a few minutes, then go sit in a hot bath, see if it'll relax a bit for me.
<10> Wow...the latest cvs version of mythtv is borked something fierce
<0> is it a muscle problem or like a shin slint?
<0> shin splint
<7> muscle
<7> it's the inside hamstring
<7> you have like, three hamstrings, really
<7> inside, outside, middle
<1> reality: no surprise.
<7> it's the inside


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