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<0> Lion: i configured syslog.conf to get kern.* and *.debug hopefully i can find out why this nic card is dying
<0> its a xpc barebone box i picked up to be my router and the 2nd pci network card i add works just fine, this integrated one dies every other day. but today it died twice.
<0> now i am ebaying to find out if there is any cheap dual port NIC cards, because i have a feeling that this intergrated NIC just might be so crappy, it probably can't handle all the traffic goes through.
<1> congrats rhowe
<1> if you are there
<2> help: i do a su <user> under root and when i go to do dir cd Desktop or anything i get permission denied
<3> SixtyFold: you're not making much sense.
<3> SixtyFold: still, whats the problem? I guess the useraccount doesn't have access to certain directories. "man chmod" and "man chown" may be usefull.
<4> SixtyFold: What directory are you in?
<4> More likely leaving out a hyphen
<4> And still being in root's ~
<5> ugh. gotta be in tomorrow at 6:30am
<1> ewww
<6> D-side: howcome?
<6> DevZer0: Which XPC?
<6> DevZer0: Your symptoms sound very similar to what results from PSU failure on our SB51G's



<0> whyzzyrd, XPC SB86i
<5> whyzzyrd: have to swap out a couple switches, and the boss doesnt trust the overnight crew to tie their own shoes correctly.
<1> dev: I have had a few onboard nic's crap out with heavy traffic
<6> DevZer0: Our onboard nics are Realtek 8139's.
<0> let me check what mine is
<6> DevZer0: We give them a good pasting when we do the remote install, but if the PSU's going, the machines fail to PXE etc.
<6> DevZer0: In any case, Dual/Quad port Intel PCI cards are easily obtained on fleabay.
<1> why: I had twi realtec's bomb.....but they are great cards while they last
<1> two*
<0> whitecap, PSU you mean power supply ?
<6> DevZer0: yup
<6> DevZer0: I find that after about 3 years, the caps dry up in the PSU and the output rails get enough ripple on them to upset the NIC chip.
<0> whyzzyrd, the NIC is marvell 88E8053 GbE (PCI-E-X1)
<2> i dont know, im just trying to access user files from root, thats all im trying to do... one of my users, im trying to access those files from root
<7> whyzzyrd: http://siksai.co.uk/gallery/Wedding
<6> DevZer0: That box has got to be new enough that it can't be a PSU fault already.
<0> whyzzyrd, this box is only one week old :-(
<0> whyzzyrd, yes
<2> my internet doesnt work now either on the nix machine though either since ive rebooted after doing yum update and yum kernel-devel install
<3> SixtyFold: keep it in the channel.
<6> DevZer0: I Seem to remember there being some issues with the marvell drivers.
<2> yah
<7> whyzzyrd: Quality of consumer hardware these days, it wouldn't suprise me :)
<2> i ***umed thats why im back typing in here (=
<3> SixtyFold: the cause of the problem is simply that you have no clue what the **** you're doing.
<3> SixtyFold: so RTFM.
<2> that would be a big part of the problem
<3> SixtyFold: www.tldp.org, enjoy. bye now.
<2> lol
<6> rhowe: shuttle stuff's reasonably ok. We run ours 24/7 and we're starting to have a few go, after 3 years. One can hardly complain.
<2> tnx
<6> rhowe: You added more photos since yesterday?
<7> whyzzyrd: Ah, no
<0> whyzzyrd, thanks i will google around,
<7> whyzzyrd: Haven't found my cardreader
<7> whyzzyrd: I *could* netboot a soekris with a CF card in it, I suppose...
<6> rhowe: hehe
<7> 266MHz card reader with 3 ethernet ports :)
<8> hi there
<7> hmm.. I think I will - just to be obscene
<8> i need a little advice: i'm trying to hide "Done" messages returned by child processes in a cron-launched script
<3> Fry-kun: redirect stdout or stderr to /dev/null.
<3> hm, invasiion of the cluebies
<8> $ ls >/dev/null 2>&1 &
<8> [1] 20753
<8> [1] + 20753 done ls -F -a --color > /dev/null 2>& 1
<9> um, that's just your shell in interactive mode
<8> yeah.. but the cron script prints out the "Done" messages too
<8> although in slightly different format
<10> dammitall.
<10> Lion-O: ooga booga
<8> [1] Done make -s preprocess-log-files-lock-rotation-host host=$x
<8> ^ is what i get in the email :(
<11> You guys know any decent tools I can use to test network cables? (portable device kind of thing)
<12> I have a good one here...
<12> uhh...
<11> Fluke?
<12> one sec
<12> yeah, fluke



<7> fredk: There are a bunch. We have something simplistic at work
<11> which one?
<12> hold on
<11> I want something that is good, but not over the top expensive
<7> fredk: Forget the name though.. it's got a magnetic hazard label on it
<11> hehe
<10> fredk: Fluke meters are double plus good.
<10> of course, they are expensive as ****
<12> it's just called a micromapper
<12> and all it does is test continuity
<12> identifies crossed wires etc...
<11> yea
<7> siglite: Yeah, that's what ours does
<11> I found this one, fluke DTX something
<7> fredk: I think ours is made by mod-tap
<3> Fry-kun: thats likely the program doing this.
<12> and it has a toner in it if you need to run around with a wand or anything.
<11> verifies length and all that ****
<12> that's higher end than the one I use.
<12> I just need to know the wires end up on the right pinouts
<11> http://www.flukenetworks.com/us/Cabling/Copper+Cabling/DTX+Cable+Analyzer/Overview.htm
<7> siglite: Ah, ours doesn't have a beeper - you have to work in pairs if you want to be effective at doing lots of cables over any particular distance
<11> seems to be more expensive than what i'm willing to pay for though
<10> tone/probe is important!
<12> yeah, I have a normal pair toner too
<3> linux:/home/peter $ bash "ls / &" > /dev/null 2>&1
<3> linux:/home/peter $
<10> If youre not part of the solution, youre part of the precipitate!
<3> simple
<3> hmm, not exactly true but still..
<13> help:ops changed graphic card configuration him how can I turn back to default in fedora?
<10> ZeRoCoDeR: -ENOTSUPPORTED
<3> linux:/home/peter $ bash -c "ls / &" > /dev/null 2>&1
<3> linux:/home/peter $
<10> ZeRoCoDeR: -EBEYONDHELP
<3> ZeRoCoDeR: there is no such thing.
<11> uhm, $6600 is not what I want to pay :)
<13> him there is no safe mode or kind of thing?
<3> fredk: yes you do ;)
<10> BWAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
<11> Lion-O, no I don't, even though this does fiber too..and having something to quickly analyze a fiber problem is "priceless"
<14> what you tryin to do Lion-O ?
<3> fredk: you do want to pay me $6600 :)
<3> wishes: hmm ?
<11> Lion-O, **** no :)
<14> or rather what are you trying to show somebody what to do?
<14> with the ls /&
<10> fredk: tools like that aint exactly cheap.
<3> wishes: I'm showing fredk that he's an idiot.
<15> ZeRoCoDeR: you can start in "single user mode" or failing that, boot from the rescue disk/cd
<3> errr
<3> wishes: Fry-kun :P
<14> oh
<14> hehe
<16> ZeRoCoDeR: here is your hint - you want to be at runlevel 3 when you finish booting
<10> fredk: I could find you the dumb little tool I used to use, but it only does one thing... tell you if the wire is good from end to end.
<14> give em enough rope ... ? :D
<11> Lion-O, this one look around my league http://cableorganizer.com/fluke-networks/fluke-cableiq.htm
<16> ZeRoCoDeR: now go google up how to do that
<3> fredk: not you, not you! you're only an idiot for not paying me $6600, not for misusing the ls ;-)
<9> DaveHowe, my Debian system wants to be at 2
<11> kosmo, yea, those are cheap :)
<16> Liandrin: he prequalified as fedora :)
<9> DaveHowe, ah
<15> ZeRoCoDeR: once you get started though, if you didn't save a backup of the configuration, you'll have to replace it by hand.
<3> fredk: aah, I see
<13> RelDrgn got it thanx
<10> ZeRoCoDeR: there is no X in Thanks.
<13> kosmo thank for know how :) Ok other time before asking dump guestion ask google first
<13> sorry
<10> Falchion: you bitch.
<10> Falchion: you have FIOS.
<10> Falchion: is it really the shiz?


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