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<0> i'll probably add a high end nvidea card with 512mb ram
<0> not the most expensive though
<0> something 300-400$
<1> I would say 500W then, to be on the safe side. If you everp lan on going SLI you ar elikely to have to upgrade too.
<1> those cards can eat 150W a piece without blinking
<0> oh well i'm screwed then
<1> how so?
<0> i bought my case with a 400W supply in it today.. cause the guy said its plenty unless i want 2 graphic cards
<1> you should be ok on 400 with a single board, you just won't have the margins I prefere
<0> yeah
<0> i'd rather spend the extra $$$ on mobo/cpu
<2> wlfshmn: yeah, I got a 400W and it's a tad low ... but it is basically working.
<1> I rarely use the spu included with a case though, as they tend to be noisy, althouhg case manufacturers have gotten better at that as of late it seems
<0> i got an antec case
<1> oehansen: yeah, depends on how much other crap you hang off of the computer ;)
<1> antec sonata comes with a 400W supply of pretty good quality I believe..
<2> my former mobo, wish was an asus ... appeared to not like the low watt power.
<2> with a new mobo, whish is a tad slower ... it's working.
<0> the computer i'm on right now is a p4 with a 300w psu and its loaded.. has like 10 USB devices, 256mb agp vid card,dvd/cd,2gig ram,160gig hd, etc.. and has no problems
<2> so, I guess Im gonna go 500W when I get a new hard drive.
<0> i didnt get the sonata got something more expensive
<0> pwerformance tx series
<0> performance
<2> when you start the system, go into health and watch the power ... if it's low ... a better supply would be good :-)
<0> the watts is determined by : watts = amps * volts
<3> how long (generally) should it tacke dd to copy 100Gigs for one drive to another ?
<0> oehansen - where's health?
<0> i have an asus mobo
<1> splashy: also, make sure you use as many of the rails as possibly, don't hang everything off a single connector ;)
<1> splashy: in biod, ther is a monitor that among other things monitors voltage levels
<0> the V should always be 12
<0> 120VAC to 12VDC
<0> from your wall to your mobo
<1> well, it won't be -exactly- 12, but it should be near it
<0> let me see if i can d/l a freeware voltage meter program
<1> kd3: now way to tell, depends on the read speed of the souce and write speed of the target drive
<4> I don't think their measurement is that accurate though
<4> and I never bothered checking them with more thrustworthy equipment
<1> kd3: maybe 15 minutes
<3> wlfshmn: hmm.... this is an ide internal to usb /dev/sda and it's been going (not returned to prompt) for about 3 hours. Sound a bit long?
<1> kd3: sounds long, unless you are using USB1 I suppose
<0> i was told to install 2 physical HDs in my new computer if i wanna run linux and windows vista
<0> instead of partitionning
<1> splashy: It's how I prefere doing it
<5> how good is knoppix?
<6> Athensman: good for what?
<7> as good as the admin running it..
<1> splashy: the partitioning method should work too though, it's just higher risk of screwing up <(
<5> i am wanting to learn linux
<3> wlfshmn: that's a good question it on an hp 8000 series laptop and it has usb flakiness.
<5> is that a good program to learn with
<6> Athensman: its decent, yeah.
<7> Athensman: tldp.org , read some guides
<5> i am downloading the live cd now
<7> the system administrator's guide for one..
<6> Athensman: just don't consider it an official distribution which you should also try to install and such.
<0> brb have to restart the computer for the voltage meter program to install
<6> Athensman: don't msg me, keep it in the channel.
<5> ok what is the easiest linux to use
<7> hehe, I remember brining a knoppix CD to school some years ago... the teacher in the lab freaked out and called the sysadmin to come yell at me... sys-admin came in and just said "oh, you... be nice to your teacher"
<6> Athensman: probably a live cd since you can pop it in and run it.
<5> ok so i am on the right track then
<6> Athensman: depends on your goals.
<5> well i have a slow computer
<5> i am running win2kpro on it right now
<7> what constitutes "slow"?
<5> i have been hearing that linux runs better on a slow computer
<6> Athensman: as I said before: do keep in mind that it is a live cd and as such not an official distribution whcih you can install. A live cd is nice to peek at Linux, but when you wish to really get into the matter then I don't think a live cd will cut it anymore.
<5> 366 celeron 256 ram
<6> don't expect a slick gui ;)
<7> especially from a live-cd
<7> too little ram on that box
<8> Greetings and Salutations to everyone!
<5> so what do you suggest??
<7> CodeMagic: buon gierno
<5> stay with win2kpro
<6> Athensman: nothing.. Don't forget that linux IS a commandline based OS.
<9> ... partly.
<6> Viking667: partly? no, fully.
<3> tst
<5> is there not a OS that dont use so much resources like win2kpro that is easy to use
<6> X is basicly an addition to the OS just like, for example, Apache is :P
<6> Athensman: who cares. We deal with Linux here.
<10> Lion-O: it's more like a shell.
<10> K_F: Get behind me stallman.
<6> Strider: hmm, yeah. I think thats a good comparison.
<9> Lion-O: true... Though there are some GUI programs that don't really have a commandline complement.
<6> Viking667: oh?
<6> Viking667: do name one ;-)
<10> Lion-O: oh, say the GIMP
<6> aaah. yes. But thats IMO a bad comparison. A drawing program isn't part of an OS.
<9> I don't know of admin programs where there isn't a commandline version, but for user programs, that is indeed true.
<7> Strider: imagemagick
<11> imagemagick is no replacement for gimp
<11> thats just silly
<7> I tend to use it more than the gimp :p
<11> if you want to convert from format to format or resize, sure.
<7> nah, does some nice cropping, clipping et cetera too
<9> Right. What's necessary for an OS to operate, apart from the kernel (and modules)?
<6> admin tools!
<6> and ascii pr0n ;-)
<11> K_F: which is maybe 1% of what gimp can do. nice try thouggh. :D
<10> K_F: yeah, but try touching up a photo.
<7> D-side: worth a shot :)
<9> Lion-O: dunno about the admin tools either. They run on top of the kernel.
<6> if it weren't for ascii pr0n I bet we wouldn't have got less today :)
<7> of course, would be difficult to use asciilib to get a preview of the image to know what to do with it in the first place
<9> But as for ascii pr0n, it's inthe kernel... so it counts.
<6> hehehe
<7> hehe
<12> I think that's a bitmap, not ascii art.
<6> hmm... maybe I could play a game of UT cl***ic.
<9> atompngn: in earlier versions of the kernel (non-framebuffer versions too) there is (or should be) an ASCII version too.
<6> or C&C. Or... doom3. or.. or...
<7> textmode quake?
<9> Lion-O: huh? Unreal Tournament?
<12> Okay, I don't remember that. I've only used since 1997 though.
<9> textmode doom exists, I think textmode quake does too.
<7> I know it does..
<7> http://webpages.mr.net/bobz/ttyquake/
<12> Hell, there's a ps-doom to kill processes
<9> I've never seen anywhere where games are part of an OS.
<7> "Paul Wilkins, who apparently has waaaay to much free time, has graciously donated two HTML "screenshots" of ttyquake which he created by hand. No, really. He typed in all those little characters while reading from jpeg screenshots I sent him. His mother must be so proud. "
<9> lol.
<12> Don't shoot at init, he's big and nasty
<9> do they shoot back?
<12> Don't know, I could never get it to compile
<9> lol - pwned by init!
<12> http://psdoom.sourceforge.net/
<7> hehe
<7> hadn't seen that one before
<13> KF!
<7> heya Nanuq
<13> anyone in .ca or .us wanna test something out for me?
<0> ok i checked my voltage
<0> its 11.97V
<6> Nanuq: well, I could pretent to be from there ;)
<0> on my 300W PSU
<6> well, and so the beer is good and the upcoming week will be busy
<9> sounds good.
<0> bill gates will be live in a few hours on the web
<0> live video feed i think
<0> for vista
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