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<0> something that isn't clear to me in vmware, is the how much swap space I exactly should reserve on the host, I take it this depends if guest system is going to swap, which is bad in the first place
<1> shadow_god: Heh, better stick with osx then ;)
<2> thanks for the advice, it was great help :)
<0> then it says something about /tmp, it's really confusing
<1> Sunblade: Um, no, those two are not related.
<2> night ppl
<1> Sunblade: Whether a guest starts swapping only depends on the amount of memory you give to the vm.
<3> Goodby
<0> also I need to adjust shared memory, ****ing annoying
<0> Coma: ok, consider this case, I have a machine with 4gb of memory how much swap space should the host system have, most likely two virtual machines
<1> Of course, if your give your vm 2GB of memory while the host has that or less, it will start swapping ;)
<1> Sunblade: If both VMs get 1GB, you ought to get by without swap on the host ;)
<0> thus, a very small swap partition on the host ?
<1> Sunblade: #define small
<0> well enough, let's say, 2gb
<1> It's always a good idea to have some swap space available, even if the box is (almost) never driven into swapping.



<0> ah ok, that's what I want to hear, because now I have 3 swap partitions of 2gb :)
<1> As long as you don't oversize the amount of memory your VMs get, you should be safe.
<1> And if you do run short on ram, just add more. At the current prices it won't hurt too much.
<0> good, and they also tell something about resizing /dev/shm to the amount of memory
<0> ah ofcourse this isn't an issue if the system doesn't swap to much
<0> thanks for the info
<0> Linux testbox 2.6.9-42.0.8.ELsmp #1 SMP Tue Jan 30 12:18:01 EST 2007 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux, Quad Core Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5335 @ 2.00GHz :)
<1> So, it's fully buzzword compliant? :P
<0> yeah
<0> hmm maybe I am going to reinstall anyway
<0> I wonder if a raw partition is better for vmware guests, /me looks that up
<1> Sunblade: It should be a little faster, with less overhead
<4> anyone
<1> powergirl: Perhaps you better elaborate, else you won't get much help.
<4> i wanna compile some drivers
<1> Something along the lines of "I'm trying to compile this and that, I've tried such and so and it fails here and there"
<4> and i can`t use make command
<4> what can i do
<1> Also keep in mind that less and less people feel inclined to help with suse related problems, ever since novell sold out to microsoft.
<4> :(
<1> powergirl: What exactly do you mean with "can't use make command"?
<5> Somebody actually cares about that?
<5> Well, somebody that matters? =)
<4> soo there anyone to help me
<1> jlgaddis: Cares about what?
<6> ok, so the girl I went out to the hockey game with tonight didn't let me pay for my ticket...
<5> Coma: Novell sleeping with Microsoft
<4> ?
<1> jlgaddis: I don't care much for the fact that they do, it's their choice. It's just that I want little to nothing to do with whatever they produce.
<1> powergirl: I tried, you ignore me
<1> You could also run to microsoft for support on your suse problems.
<4> i already have windows xp
<0> then again I should wonder if that's really necessary on 15000 rpm disks
<1> Sunblade: Lesser overhead == faster VMs
<1> Though you might want to use LVM for the VM disks
<1> On my boxen using xen, I tend to create a VG for every VM I create and add LVs for every disk/partition of that VM
<7> Strider, how cultured
<7> Coma, having fun?
<1> Very much not so :/
<1> It keeps failing its tests because of wide characters somehere.
<1> Weird, there aren't any wide characters to be found in the tests.
<1> How can a bit of string like "3&lang" appear as wide characters? Perl thinks it says "3)", whatever that might be.
<8> Coma: so it interprets the entity..
<8> Coma: perhaps it simply interprets it early and considers it markup
<9> seems the guy's Vaio booted back up again, eventually...
<1> Heh, but there is no entity. It's just part of a html snippet that gets fed to HTML::Tree
<1> This is what it chokes on:
<1> $tb->parse(
<1> "<a href='http://wherever/moo.cgi?xyz=123&lang=en'>Test</a>";
<1> );
<10> doesnotparse!
<11> s/'/\'/g;
<8> Coma: &lang is also the html entity for left angular bracket, is it not?
<10> wlfshmn: that would be &lang; then
<10> wlfshmn: entities always have ";" , remember?
<8> hm, yeah, that is true..



<1> That should be &lang; then, which still isn't a wide char.
<8> Coma: we did recently have a iwn32 problem where ' != '
<1> And since this is a html parser, it should be aware of something like this ;)
<8> Coma: if pasted from notepad, regular ascii, if pasted from word, a unicode character
<10> notepad = unicode btw
<8> made pasted sql snippets not work as intended ;)
<8> Jostein: sure, I never said it wasn't
<1> Maybe I should disable all utf8 support and see what it does then
<9> -EPARSE
<8> Coma: or save the file and have a look at it in something utterly stupid, like a hexeditor ;)
<1> Bah, even with utf8 disabled it fails
<8> sounds like a case of if $user == coma
<9> oh. < is &lt; isn't it?
<8> Viking667: sounds right
<9> so that counts out &lang= being misinterpreted.
<9> erm, escape the ' and the ?
<1> Just checked with a hex editor, there's really no funyn stuff in that file.
<9> Coma: by the way, what lang is that?
<1> Viking: perl
<9> hm.
<9> what sort of variable is $tb ?
<1> Viking: The worst bit is, it's failing the tests that ship with HTML::Tree itself
<9> mrm.
<1> Viking: a HTML::TreeBuilder
<9> strange.
<9> Well, I can't say if it should or shouldn't work.
<9> Coma: remove everything, stick it all back in one at a time ... see what happens.
<9> start (for example) with "<a href='localhost'>"
<9> oeh, sorry,
<9> start (for example) with "<a href='localhost'>Test</a>"
<8> hehe http://www.nukees.com/comics/nukees20070207.gif
<1> Ok, so it _is_ &lang that gets intepreted wrong.
<9> Strange! You've single-quoted inside a double-quoted string...
<9> try making &lang into a string var, and going with pieces...
<1> Viking: That's besides the point. It really shouldn't fail on the tests provided with the package
<9> Granted...
<9> Time I left, anyhow.
<9> Enough of sid tunes for the moment. I'm gonna sleep.
<8> he, rockin'! http://bytonic.de/html/jake2.html
<12> Right, question. I have a chance her on a large company to prod away redhat/fedora. However, to please the customer I must use the best way, similiar to a "anaconda-ks" file. I've been pondering about FAI but it isnt even close to as easy as a anaconda-ks file, even though I prefer FAI myself. Any suggestion on a similiar solution for debian/ubuntu?
<1> You'll probably still have to go with FAI. But if fc/rh works, why kick that out?
<12> It doesnt, they are just used to it so im trying to make the transition as smooth as possible :)
<12> ubuntu seems to support kickstart-files though
<13> small question. I have a sym link. I tried to 'chown user.group link' and it doesn't work.
<14> Dual203: Duh.
<13> Shadur: teach me then
<1> Rydekull: Just get them to switch to FAI and be done with it ;)
<15> Rydekull: Email Phil Hands
<15> Rydekull: d-i can pretty much do what you want
<1> Now there's a familliar name
<12> Coma: Nice
<12> rhowe: Awesome, that'd be great
<12> I also got a suggestion on preseed
<15> Rydekull: FAI might be less pain though :)
<12> rhowe: FAI is excellent in my mind :)
<14> Dual203: Why? The answer's obvious if you spend more than ten seconds thinking about it.
<13> Shadur: nope. Should I link it as the user I want?
<13> Shadur: why do sym links don't accept ownership, it is irrelevant?
<14> Dual203: See? That wasn't so hard, was it?
<12> :)
<12> Dual203: check the permissions on a symlink :)
<13> Rydekull: I've noticed it's 777
<16> re
<17> and I'm back for a couple hours..
<16> can i (a) use compiz and (b) use compiz with kde?
<8> all you need to use compiz is a recently modern nvidia or ati card
<16> i have a radeon 9250, with hardware opengl
<8> using it with kde should be fine, but you will probably be replacing the window manager with the compiz window decorator IIRC
<8> I wasn't all that impressed by compiz persoanlly
<16> ah
<16> i don't know if i want to do that


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