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<0> Lion-O: And every now and then you can find good stuff on it
<1> Ka-bar: g'night anyways :)
<2> hehe
<2> g'nite
<0> Lion-O: More on that later, when I get my hands on it :)
<3> PolarWolf: I found a pile of memory modules I've been craving on ebay ;)
<0> wlfshmn: Hehe
<4> PolarWolf: True, true... right now I'm keeping a little low profile, spend some nice cash on a whole cartoon series so I'm going to keep low profile for a while.
<0> wlfshmn: fleabay is useful too, but I prefer cl***ifieds
<3> PolarWolf: it's supprisingly difficult to get hold of reasonably priced ecc non-reg ;)
<0> auctions ****
<0> wlfshmn: Indeed it is
<0> wlfshmn: It's usually regged ECC.
<3> now, ecc reg, those are a dime a dozen..
<3> PolarWolf: and best of all, it's a seller I'm familiar with ;)
<0> wlfshmn: Whee! :)
<0> wlfshmn: Well, the thingie I'm getting is from someone I dealt with before too
<3> PolarWolf: bought a whole 1U server offo f them last year ;)
<0> wlfshmn: People who have weird stuff for sale are not that many
<3> PolarWolf: they seem to have gotten hold of a surplus or obsoleted store of parts for this particular maker.. the memory modules are even the correct part numbers..
<3> PolarWolf: and the have wierd parts too, like cheap FC controllers and whatnot
<5> ecc is great, if you got radiation nearby.. otherwise i'd consider it overkill and thus unecessary. I've never had a box go down because of a random bit change.
<3> safemode: I expect it's overkill too, but it's what the machine preferes
<0> wlfshmn: Hmm, got a link to the fleabay store?
<0> safemode: The problem is that some mainboards really want it
<5> i deal with amd. the cpu dictates the ram, not the motherboard
<0> safemode: Well, it's an evil triangle
<5> much more evil on the intel side
<0> CPU dictates board dictates memory
<0> Especially when you move into the Opteron realm
<5> with amd, it's the cpu that supports ram, all the motherboard has to do is put the socket in.
<6> AMD can die. :P
<7> Mmm, opteron's.
<6> When they hit 45 nm, Intel will already be at, ohh.. 15 nm?
<5> Polarwolf: even in opteron realm, the cpu has the memory controller, not the motherboard.
<7> Our DL385's are bad*** boxes.
<3> Nanuq: On the desktop they are losing validity.. on the server the opterons are still neat
<8> Nanuq: "die in a fire" to be specific :P
<7> Their performance is on par with my personal DL580.
<6> wlfshmn: I guess in a server room where you don't have to sit near the darn thing.
<0> safemode: Well, try to plug in an opteron into a random board, won't work
<3> Nanuq: yeah, I wouldn't prefere to run a 60dB machine near wher eI sleep ;)
<6> wlfshmn: I've long given up with AMD. Sorry.
<3> Nanuq: no need to be sorry, it's a personal choice ;)
<0> safemode: technically you're right of course, but in practice, it doesn't matter much.
<0> safemode: And the BIOS has something to say about it too
<0> wlfshmn: ta
<0> jlgaddis: We're getting DL585's soon :)
<0> jlgaddis: 64GB
<3> Nanuq: I think opteron still kick arse in the mid-low-end server range atleast
<5> Polarwolf: sure it does, same exact motherboard cept necessary changes, am2 supports ddr2, 939 doesn't. It's the cpu that dictates that, not the motherboard at all.
<6> wlfshmn: I've just waded through so much **** with AMD, whereas the comparable Intel product Just Works.
<7> PolarWolf: Sweet.
<0> Who cares about desktop CPUs
<3> PolarWolf: I'm happy if I can bring this P4 machine up to 2.5-3GB of ram ;)
<6> wlfshmn: Well, Sun's decision to use them might not be that bad. I mean, relative to the UltraSPARC-anything. ;)
<0> wlfshmn: Heh
<3> PolarWolf: My java isn't -THAT- resource hungry ;)
<0> wlfshmn: It's Java. I doubt you've got much to say about it.
<6> wlfshmn: I did/am still seriously considering an Ultra 20
<8> hehe
<5> I've never had an amd box not "just work" Intel ones too. I guess i'm just competent at building computers.
<8> safemode: hehe
<4> aaah.
<0> safemode: The only issue I had recently was trying to plug in a PCIe array controller together with a PCIe video card into 16x slots
<3> PolarWolf: Tsk, a good code can write efficiently in any language ;)
<3> s/code/coder/
<4> well, one more beer. At the most only 2 and then bedtime about almost :)
<6> safemode: well to be truthful and accurate, most of the problems I've had 1) cropped up later because 2) of VIA's ****ey chips
<5> that's why i use nvidia
<5> nvidia's motherboards kick ***
<6> safemode: Are they really any good?
<0> Other than that, I ****ing love my opterons :)
<4> hmm, amd
<5> Nanuq: _never_ had anywhere near the type of issues i had with via
<5> I had via hdd corruption before
<6> safemode: Maybe I need to reconsider.
<5> via performance slouching
<5> nvidia is top notch at least in motherboards
<6> safemode: maybe I can keep on blaming VIA
<9> hi everyone. can anyone help with this issue: ''There are no installable providers of libselinux for xsp-1.0.6-4.i586"? all dependencies are installed, but this error makes me mad :( nothing useful in google :(
<5> and linux support for it is very nice. even to the point of hardware offloading for it's ethernet and ****
<4> hmm, I like VIA mainboards
<5> anyways, i'm gonna go make some home-made salisbury steaks
<6> safemode: Well, I'm open to trying AMD again, but not with VIA.
<6> safemode: What happened to their own chipsets?
<5> seriously though, see if you can try out some **** on nvidia, intel or amd. you wont go back
<5> Nanuq: thought they were just server amd setups, that used amd chipsets
<0> Nanuq: Personally, if I'd had to make the choice now, I'd pick up Core2Duo
<5> gah... ****ing gf. be back later.
<6> PolarWolf: Well I'm waiting for 45 nm parts.
<10> I really need to pick up another gig of ram for this laptop
<4> ****ing gf? lucky you :-)
<6> PolarWolf: IMO that's going to be a major jump, and worth the wait.
<0> Nanuq: You can always keep waiting for something
<11> Aldan be more specefic
<4> kittykat: kindly keep autoaway garbage out of the channel.
<0> Here, **** toy.
<6> hrm
<12> Lion-O ok..np:)
<6> I guess I'll go hang with old BSD farts.
<4> PolarWolf: or did you expect something more violent? :-)
<0> Lion-O: Hey, if you kill it in the process...one less cat
<4> errr, there's that
<0> Nanuq: Bleh, we lin00ks guys are much cooler
<8> cats are chick's toys anyway
<6> PolarWolf: Probably.
<4> kittykat: as I was saying, welcome to #linux where to try to claw the dawgs :P
<6> PolarWolf: I mean IRL though.
<0> Nanuq: Argh, why?
<8> PolarWolf: I dont reallt felt the flow of cool coming my way when I installed debian though
<0> Nanuq: Dude, beards are so 1970's
<6> PolarWolf: why?
<9> arpf: suse 10.1. installing package xsp-1.0.6-4.src.rpm. all dependencies are resolved. the onliest error - 'There are no installable providers of libselinux for xsp-1.0.6-4.i586'. Any more info you need?
<4> lol
<6> PolarWolf: my beard is everything to me!
<4> PolarWolf: my boss has a beard :)
<3> PolarWolf: Beards rock!
<8> PolarWolf: didn't really (and what the hell is up with my spelling?)
<6> PolarWolf: and there are some women there! they haven't beards!
<4> rofl
<0> Nanuq: Those are just booth babes
<6> PolarWolf: no, actually.
<6> PolarWolf: they know their ****.
<12> Lion-O meoww..thankie:)
<0> That's why I hate BSD...they have cool booth babes, we have a clunky old stoned looking penguin
<6> PolarWolf: one writes for O'Reilly, for example.
<8> Nanuq: you have been brainwashed by booth babes :P
<11> Aldan go to 2.6 or suse 10.2
<6> feh
<6> anyway, Tama will be there.
<6> usually is.
<0> Of course he will be, he's a desperate ****
<6> because I've dragged him along the past two times.
<6> PolarWolf: :P
<8> PolarWolf: haha
<0> The "my kingdom for a friend" kind of desperate
<6> PolarWolf: Not true. He'd be calling me every other day.
<6> PolarWolf: Unless I'm that unlikable. :)
<8> s/friend/****/ no?
<6> Jostein: Hey now!
<9> arpf - mm it's possible, however, isn't there any way to fix it for 10.1?
<8> I usually use the term "desperate" for guys trying to get laid. not getting a friend.
<3> PolarWolf: tux looks stoned because linus does ;)
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