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<0> whyzzyrd: Yeah, I understand
<1> if it works, fantastic for you.
<1> if not, you wont be homeless.
<0> I definitely ned to do my research first.
<0> need
<2> a restaurant needs to be a p***ion
<2> takes a long while to turn them to profits
<2> unless if you've got a really good (read, expensive) location
<0> yeah
<1> exel: hell, sometimes not even that works.
<2> nope there are many ways to flop
<0> Well, I'm thinking being next to the bar would be a big help, but it's a run-down scummy area, but I'd be serving cheap food too... but having the landlord be my best friend might be to my advantage at first, even if he is planning on selling at the end of this year, heh
<3> D-side: I find that most restaurants that are/were good that I go to, have second income streams, like holiday flats above the restaurant.
<2> oh it's not that bad over here. Good restaurants make actual money
<1> wheres "over here"
<2> .nl
<0> Ah, well, either that or I'll just stare at the BIND and Postfix How-To's until I reach enlightenment or go blind and can collect disability pay.
<2> might be a price thing.
<2> what's a three course meal do over there?
<1> exel: people tend to flock to places that have good food, but as he just said, location is 51% of the equation
<1> CeruleanD: no. dont do it in a **** area.
<0> But a nice area would be expensive
<1> which means it would turn a profit
<2> if the rent doesn't kill you, though
<2> your current location is better in that respect, I reckon :)
<2> how are you going to deal with the up-front investments?
<3> exel: but you've no way of taking it upmarket, and that's where the money is
<1> whyzzyrd: precisely.
<3> exel: if you sell cheap food, in a cheap area, you've no way of taking a high% profit.
<2> whyzzyrd: if you use child labor and recycle what people throw away, you can make a couple of dimes ;)
<0> Small business loan
<3> exel: You sit down next time that you're in a restaurant, and work out their markup on what you're eating. Figure that they can buy raw ingredients about 40% cheaper than you can in general.
<2> ceruleand: I would only take out a loan on something that I was 200% sure about, and even then I'd probably prefer to start a business that could be pulled up by the bootstraps.
<0> I'll figure out approximately how much it'll cost for equipment and 2 years of running expenditures, pad it a bit, then ask for 3 years worth of $$
<4> hello .. someone could tell me how to configure an irda device connected to usb ?
<0> ----> #linuxhelp
<4> or give me some links
<4> ok CeruleanD
<5> CeruleanD: don't be too quick with that
<3> exel: I have a costco card. You can buy good quality meat here in scotland for at least 40% less than the butcher sells you it over the counter.
<5> Pasquale: basicly you need to make sure your kernel has USB support and it will probably need to support the irda device as well. What is it exactly you want to do ?
<2> ceruleand: cruise the neighbourhood and try to figure out how many customemrs an average restaurant takes in at: a typical weeknight, and all of the weekend-nights.
<3> right. I need to go sleep
<3> night all
<5> whyzzyrd: sleep well
<0> g'night Whyzzyrd
<0> Ooo, that's a good idea exel
<2> you need some form of sales projection
<0> Sorry Lion-O, you're right
<2> so you can calculate how much you'd be making
<2> and if that would pay back the loan
<0> The more I think about it though, the less I really want this location...
<4> Lion-O, i have just recompiled my kernel with usb support
<2> ceruleand: if it were a real no-brainer to start a food business there, you ought to ask why nobody has done it yet.
<6> anyone seen Falchion?
<2> ka-bar: not recently
<2> not in my /lastlog
<4> irda too
<5> Pasquale: you may also need specific support for the irda device. But alas; this is good first step. Run and see if you can find anything in /proc/bus/usb which points in this direction.
<0> exel: Oh that one's easy, when my friend bought it it was in shambles internally. Windows borded up, a total mess inside.
<0> He's basically spent every single weekend and many weekdays off from work to renovate the place.
<0> Been working on it since... wow, early last summer I think
<1> CeruleanD: see what i'm saying here?
<4> 001 002 003 004 005 devices
<5> whooo, this is cool. Sun has released their secure global desktop for free (with linux clients). So now I can use certain "desktop applications" through my browser.
<0> eah
<0> yeah
<4> the 001 , .. 005 are dirs
<0> It probably would be easier just to knuckle down and try to figure out why my SMTP relay keeps converting the "from field" on all incoming emails to "isaac@domainA.com", no matter who they're from, before sending them on. :)
<0> Probably much easier than starting a restaurant, lol
<2> ceruleand: well good luck in any case :)
<1> cheeksy: now say "ARRRRR"
<7> *meow*
<0> lol
<0> hiya cheeksy
<7> hiya you
<7> oh pan szymon
<6> hey cheeksy
<8> blah
<7> hey
<7> i had a nighmare.
<7> weird.
<9> Sagoro: bored?
<8> Cynic: No
<9> oh.
<7> Cynic: he was looking for affection
<8> Cynic: been busy all day long troubleshooting a developers crappy shell scripts
<9> cheeksy: goes without saying, i guess..
<7> see? told you he needed a hug.
<8> O_o;
<8> is phetting akin to....nevermind
<9> Sagoro: ah, i know that one well. well, usually my "troubleshooting" is 'it's insecure, go fix it, i'm not letting you use it', and it's a cgi script rather than shell, but same diff..
<8> won't go there
<7> Sagoro LOL
<7> shush.
<7> poppy!
<7> err
<7> grappy!
<8> Cynic: I hate troubleshooting others' shell scripts...especially these..they are the ****
<8> Cynic: the big ****
<10> cheeksy: hiya
<9> Sagoro: they don't sound like very adept developers
<7> :o)
<8> heya whitecap
<8> Cynic: his scripts make little sense and do a lot of jumpint around in other shell scripts and what not
<9> :/
<8> Yeah
<8> I mean...I certainly don't consider myself a "master" at shell scripting, but I can hold my own...
<8> this guy takes things to a whole new level, ****ing it all up
<11> Just my luck, i go ahead and order my book and get it, only to find that today ****ing borders got it in finally.
<11> wasted 4 bucks
<5> wow. it seems sun is having issues... (www.sun.com). Dunno about you but all I get is "sorry, document unavailable"
<8> at least it was only 4
<9> Lion-O: same here
<0> haha, yeah, same here
<5> I'm glad I grabbed the software before this ****.
<0> Someone should email them and tell them they should've used IBM e-servers,l ol
<0> lol
<10> support page loads and there are links on the error page at their home
<5> whitecap: *nod*. I wonder if this is foul play. Will soon find out I think.
<5> cheeksy: Hi there beauty! Still up in the cold or are you back home yet ?
<7> back to my Kingdom of Pekin :o0
<7> :o)
<5> w00 ;-)
<7> Lion-O: funny thing - I was joking with my friends about rolling out the red carpets.
<7> guess what was rolled out all over Manzhouli airport
<5> uh oh
<5> cheeksy: what have you naughty people done now? :)
<7> so i walk out of the taxi - no one around, steppe and snow, huge stairs and there you are - red carpet lol
<7> i was the first one to check in to that so-called international airport where there is a sign inside proudly written GATE 1! (with the very fact that there is only ONE gate)
<7> :o)
<5> ha ha ha, I think some Sun admin is ****ing up big time :P
<5> http://www.sun.com/ -> error. / http://www.sun.com/index.html -> No problem 8)
<9> heh.. same with /download
<8> I'm getting it fine
<7> time to go to work, laters, addicts
<7> :o)
<5> ch.... oh well.
<8> WTF are you doing?!?!
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