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<0> Coma: still too slow'
<1> hey it's done.. brb
<0> Coma: plus the umts-pcmcia cards are horrendiously priced
<2> okay no problem
<0> Coma: my phone doesnt have umts unfortunately
<2> Jostein, What do suggest anyway?
<3> Jostein: Sure, but atleast you have connectitivy everywhere (sort of), for m***ive downloading you just find a hotspot or go home ;)
<0> Hrone: apache for web. postfix for mail. and som random ftp daemon you can handle
<0> Hrone: but thats just random suggestions from me
<3> Which is rather poor atm :/
<0> Hrone: How about you doing some research? YOU are the one who knows -your- needs...
<0> Coma: heh. I dont really need umts when I dont have a laptop :P
<1> my phone is able to take videos now which wasn't before. ;)
<3> Jostein: Need, want, what's the difference? ;)
<0> Coma: *grin*



<0> Coma: approx $300 for a UMTS modem :P
<3> At the times I need it most desperately, even a gprs connection via my phone suffices, but umts would be nice to have too
<0> Coma: I have gprs all the time. the wonders of bluetooth + decent coverage
<3> Jostein: Ah, well, if I'd really need it, that's where $boss comes in
<3> But right now I'm not enough of a roadwarrior to justify another utms subscription
<0> heh
<0> another UMTS subscription?
<0> you mean you got on ealready, but it aint portable across networks?
<3> No, I meant that all our salesdrones and a couple of beancounters have a company supplied subscription & pcmcia card, just not me (not that I'm one of them)
<0> ah
<0> I see. Well that sorta ****s.
<0> but those cards -are- way overpriced though
<0> I can get a actual UMTS phone for half the price :P
<3> So why not get that instead then? BT works wonders imho
<0> well... because Im pretty much happy with my current phone
<0> and I -am- getting 3mbit DSL tomorrow :P
<4> SOS : un expert in linux mandrake 10.1 sa ma ajute shi pe mine PLZ
<3> CozMyn: use english here
<3> Jostein: I'd happily get myself an utms capable phone, if only they all didn't **** so much :/
<3> It's almost like none of the manufacturers are capable anymore of producing a normal phone, without all kinds of bells & whistles
<0> heh
<4> SOS : an expert in linux mandrake 10.1 2 help me PLZ
<0> Coma: I dont mind bells and whistles. as long as it works. I currently have a 0.5GB memory card in my phone :P
<2> did anyone use monowall ?
<0> Coma: aka my new MP4-player :P
<2> Is it a great firewall and good vpn capable software?
<5> Hrone: why would you ask that here?
<4> SOS : an expert in linux mandrake 10.1 2 help me PLZ
<3> CozMyn: Questions like that probably won't get you much help at all. Read www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html and try asking again
<5> Hrone: m0n0wall isnt linux.
<3> CozMyn: And don't parrot
<4> oks
<4> tnks
<3> Jostein: I just want a phone that allows me to call, send text and possibly back up as an BT utms modem for my laptop. No more, no less
<3> s/utms/umts/
<2> D-side. What is it Then ?
<0> Coma: I like my 2mp camera, the music player and the ability to do all the rest :P
<0> Coma: like remotecontrolling my PC from my couch over bluetooth :P
<5> Hrone: freebsd. the official channel is #m0n0wall on freenode
<3> Jostein: Ohhh, right! That's what I want, too!
<3> There's this thingy called Salling Clicker or something, which I'd just have to have.
<3> Control itunes from the couch, when you're no longer capable of getting up :)
<0> Coma: Since I use my PC as my mediacenter it makes sense having a remote control for it :)
<3> For me it's probably work better out to get some other box in the role of mediacenter and use my laptop as a remote
<3> s/s/d/
<0> well.. that sorta makes sense to
<0> seeing as I have no laptop, thats not an option :P
<6> Coma: I do that
<0> maybe I should have tried to fix that old PS/2 laptop
<0> but then I would have to make some wireless, serial based net :P
<3> Now if only I'd have a way of using my laptop as a phone, since I'm bound to forget my phone somwhere more often than my laptop... =)
<3> Jostein: That sounds... painfull
<0> no net. no pcmcia
<3> Jostein: Throwing rocks at your amp to get it louder would be even more modern :P
<0> heh
<0> Coma: would be -nice- with a old PS/2 laptop with a monochrome screen running textmode linux though :P
<0> that'd be beyond matrix-retro :P
<3> Would not :P
<3> I'll keep with my powerbook, thankyouverymuch



<0> they cost money. I got the PS/2 lappy for free
<0> Im not wasting over $1000 on something I dont strictly -need-
<0> yoz: thats symbian only, right? not java?
<1> Jostein: java ;)
<0> yoz: maybe I should try it as well then >:)
<0> yoz: seeing as Im used to GPRS speeds allready *grin*
<1> Jostein: heh
<3> cd camden
<3> errr
<1> 8)
<0> cd /mnt/teen*** :P
<1> Jostein: looks nice so far ;)
<0> too bad I just made it up
<7> why not just do a +b Hell*?
<3> Still sounds rather useless to me, "webbrowsing" on something as small as a phone
<7> coma: about as useless as webbrowsing on a tv I reckon.
<3> exel: It'd probably end up banning itself ;)
<3> exel: Ah, but a tv still works reaosnably well when browsing pr0n
<0> Coma: heh
<0> Coma: for playback, not for browsing IMO
<7> indeed
<7> never found a good alt.binaries.* client for the xbox ;)
<3> lol
<0> heh
<0> I never did the alt.binaries.* thing
<7> alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.* rules.
<0> by the time I got on the net most sane ISPs had banned alt.binaries.
<7> as does alt.binaries.movies.divx ;)
<3> Perhaps one of those newer, hi-res lcd tvs with dvi will work.
<7> jostein: my dsl provider has a 60TB spool
<3> Heh, 60TB worth of spam?
<7> I think they cleanfeed
<7> so it's mostly all binaries under the sun
<0> w00
<7> *.dvd and *.divx are mostly complete, with like 100G posted per day
<0> I might consider easynews, now that I finally get DSL myself
<3> Just like xs4all touting their newszilla to be amongst the biggest newsservers in the world, while it's utter crap :/
<7> coma: newszilla is crap. Eweka and Cambrium keep up their promise though, great newsfeeds.
<7> (Cambrium == TweakDSL)
<0> Any better deals than EasyNews?
<3> exel: It used to look promising at one point though
<7> jostein: dunno about the US market. As far as I can see from posting, easynews is seen as the authoritative server when there are disputes about 'you didn't post it completely' or 'your feed is crap, post again'
<3> But since I don't care much for nntp feeds anyway, I can't be arsed switing isps just for that
<3> s/ti/tchi/
<7> coma: newszilla was built to really expensive specs, making scaling it up even more expensive.
<0> exel: Im looking for something that has binaries, and is OK BW and price-wise. nntp ... I dont care about nntp
<0> exel: plus I live in norway :P
<7> jostein: yeah what I mean is that usenetters consider easynews to be the benchmark of a 'complete feed', so that indicates they probably have a leadership position with regards to feed quality.
<3> exel: While all required was mucho diskspace, couple of decent feeds and a couple of servers as frontend?
<7> jostein: so unless if you know a local ISP that has a good feed, go for easynews I would suppose, if they offer decent speed to where your link is.
<0> exel: Ive never heard anyone here complain
<0> exel: here is in norway, not #linux
<7> coma: a current full feed is 190Mbit continuous. Cambrium, at this point, is streaming about 8Gb/s of usenet traffic over their lines. This is not trivial stuff.
<3> Yikes
<3> Fsck nntp then
<7> usenet is the main reason there are currently people connecting to ams-ix at 10Gb
<0> ouch
<3> What a waste of precious bandwidth.
<0> I cant imagine the SAN you need to keep that stuff
<7> coma: it's peering traffic, so it's free, so it's no problem.
<3> exel: Well, that and spam, probably ;)
<7> coma: plus it helps with creating an economy of scale, getting better bandwidth deals for other traffic.
<3> True, as is with pr0n :)
<0> still... keeping 8kb/s continious gotta -eat- space like nothing Ive seen
<0> gb/s. dammit
<8> usenet...people declare it dead, but it's still the second largest chunk of data being pushed back and forth on the public internet
<7> jostein: well, like I said, actual 'original' message flow is near 190Mb/s, that's what you have to store. The rest of the traffic is: a) peering with other NNTP sites and b) nntp clients downloading their pr0n fix
<3> Jostein: No, no, it's _serving_ at that rate
<3> hooi PolarWolf
<0> ah
<0> exel: 190mb/s is still quite a lot of data in not too much time
<7> jostein: yeah, building a decent feeder is hell.
<0> no ****


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