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<0> ceckits: and so you'll add 300 more to that?
<1> Why smsie?
<0> ceckits: I get around 12000 spam a day, live with it
<0> ceckits: I will NEVER reply to an email that says "reply to this spam before I'll read your email"
<1> Lion-O: If the sender is on the allow list, allow the mail, if he's on the block list, drop the mail, if he's unknown, send an email out to him asking him to verify
<2> I get about 200 a day
<3> could someone tell me how could i send an email from Suse command line pls?
<4> M27UK: "man mail"
<4> ceckits: I concur with smsie; very BAD idea. Exim can do this natively, but I'd advice you to look into dspam instead.
<1> Why is this system a bad idea?
<0> ceckits: because it penalises the innocent
<4> ceckits: next to what smsie said; it will also increase your spamload.
<3> thx Lion-0
<4> spam known fact nr. 1: Every addy which triggers a response will become a magnet.
<0> ceckits: and if you REPLY to spam, that simply tells the spammer "hey, that's a real address!! Put it on the verified list!!"
<5> jgaddis: *****
<4> smsie++
<3> I've installed Nagios (the network monitoring tool) but it doesn't send me alert emails
<3> i'll try that thx :)
<6> hmmm
<0> ceckits: the most important reason to not do it is you'll piss people off...
<1> I understand
<1> Thank you
<4> ceckits: think about this; do you think amazon or whatever online shop (do you really know all their outgoing servers? I don't think so) will verify with you ? :P
<7> smsie: I tried to implement that using procmail
<7> smsie: and, YES, it pissed people off :P
<1> No this is true
<0> http://kmself.home.netcom.com/Rants/challenge-response.html
<0> CR systems are ****ED UP! DOn't use them
<0> if you do use them, don't *ever* expect me to ever be able to email you
<0> because I will NOT jump through your poxridden hoops
<7> smsie: should be expect you to anyway? :P
<0> I hope my feelings are plain on this
<5> how about if I light those hoops on fire?
<6> smsie: oh i thought you meant something like APOP
<8> <0>if you do use them, don't *ever* expect me to ever be able to email you <--- Makes it tempting to use them :)
<0> ./kick Falchion don't push it...
<6> smsie: er, general authentication technique
<7> schitzo: "you are not on my whitelist. to show that you are not a spambot, please enter a 14-digit primenumber and wait 4 years for me to process it"
<4> Jostein: rofl
<6> I used that with a bot once. You'd authenticate right in the channel.
<6> er, a bot I wrote, that is.
<4> schitzo: auth me 12345
<4> whoops :)
<0> as soon as TMDA/similar become at all useful, the spammers will adapt and defeat them trivially
<0> it's NOT hard to do
<4> bah, everyone knows that once you use an XML based CR system with a cool LDAP or AD backend all is well. IF you wish believe the current preptalks. Oh wait; it needs AJAX too ;-)
<4> s/preptalks/peptalks/
<7> Lion-O: mail2.0?
<5> I think I hit him upside the head a little to hard
<4> Jostein: is it out yet!? Whoah! ;-)
<7> Lion-O: you forgot CRM and SOAP
<9> smsie: Have it automagically issue you a certificate which needs manual signing :)
<10> let's throw some RSS and a bit of SQL in there too.
<6> and RoR
<9> smsie: Then whenever someone emails you, you verify their identity and sign their cert :)
<6> maybe some sort of web (2.0!) interface
<11> SOAP and AJAX... highly effective for washing the brains of middle management.
<9> smsie: First time only, of course
<7> rhowe: you should make them EMAIL the signed certificate :P
<7> perfectly secure against spam!
<6> Ka-bar: now I need to come up with MRCLEAN
<11> Nanuq: http://quotes.linuxops.net/index.php?op=view&id=870
<9> Jostein: heh, sure :)
<7> Ka-bar: LOL
<6> Ka-bar: I didn't say it exactly as that
<6> Ka-bar: Oh I know, we need TILEX to get rid of the scum of the 'net
<12> does that get rid of AOL grime too?
<6> You need a special permit for that strength.
<11> DCC SEND hiemersonfixyourrouteryet
<11> nope
<7> thats SO evil
<5> Ka-bar: heh
<0> rhowe: it's EVIL
<9> smsie: heh
<8> Meh. Xbox360 won't arrive till the 10th. God I hate MS.
<9> Falchion: Shoulda got a gamecube :P
<9> Falchion: No shortage of those
<13> there is really a shortage of 360s?
<14> Falchion: you'll get it BSoDing 5 minutes after arrival :)
<8> rhowe: Gave my GC away to my sister :P
<8> Libolt: If so, I'd scream and get another free game like last time :)
<8> All I know is: if you're buying a 360, get the extended warranty. Meh
<8> Actually... Wonder if I can sell my neighbor my modded xbox1
<7> Falchion: does he garrr when you say "modded"? then yes
<8> Jostein: :P Modding lets it use XBMC :P
<7> hehe
<8> But yes, he would have to get a parrot.
<7> Im sure he can handle that
<15> Jostein: He could pay you
<7> Pizbit: pay me? for what? not that I mind being paid :P
<15> To be a parrot
<7> oh. right
<7> I think you are looking for tavi-san
<7> he's the one constantly saying the same things :P
<7> plus he needs money
<15> Heh
<16> this is not the parrot you are looking for. move along.
<15> Jostein: Sell him as part of the package
<8> heh
<17> schitzo: that's what the bike's been gettin' me
<5> jgaddis: yeah, but moderating your comments.
<5> sheesh
<18> Woah, that's not cool.
<18> Jostein: My iPod just freaked out... :)
<7> lol
<18> I think it was so upset at the prospect of jpop it had a small stroke.
<7> theres ****ty jpop, tacky jpop, evil jpop and then somewhere in there, theres stuff I like without even being ashamed of it
<18> Jostein: Whatever floats your boat :)
<17> schitzo: my web site or myspace?
<7> but if I gave your iPod a hitch, I kinda like that.
<7> trendwhore :P
<5> jgaddis: myspace
<9> NotEvii!
<18> rhowe: !
<18> rhowe: How is wedlock[tm]?
<17> schitzo: it doesn't say i have any comments pending
<5> it lies.
<9> NotEvii: Dunno - she's not here
<18> rhowe: Eh?
<9> NotEvii: She's off in China. Back on Sunday
<18> rhowe: Oh neat.
<16> seems to be the week for it - becky is away too
<17> #GetResourceText( ResourceFile, "MailMaintenance", CountryCookieData)# 8/8/2006
<17> -Tom
<19> darkstar the tapette
<20> hey guys
<4> re vIkSiT
<20> Lion-O
<19> no english don t speak
<20> anyone still have pointers on that swap partition not having been mounted?
<4> GOa_uLDII: /part
<5> jgaddis: Tom ****ing **** up again?
<4> vIkSiT: hmm? swap partitions never get mounted, only initialised.
<19> tombouctou
<20> Lion-O, hmm, how would i check if it is indeed getting initialised then?
<20> rather, its doing all it is supposed to be?
<16> well, you can select them with "swapon"
<16> going to be as close to mounting as you are going to get :)
<20> DaveHowe, ah
<4> vIkSiT: swapon -s will show you all initialized & used partitions.
<20> ah. /dev/hda5 partition 521600 264 -1
<4> well, actually, not all partitions but basicly all initialized and used swapspace.
<3> what's the quickest and easiest way of installing an rpm package in Suse and Ubuntu?
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