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<0> Girl... ...You'll be a mormon.. soon....
<1> tavi-san: syslog-ng roxors.
<2> Ka-bar: the client's database system provides the ftp service as a means for a third-party website to get at the data
<3> Shadur: i take the network cable out, and nothing in the syslog
<4> tavi-san: Anything in dmesg?
<3> nope
<5> then it was neverr connected in the first place
<6> SoftDevr: that doesn't tell me anything.
<2> it tells you that the answer to your question is yes
<6> SoftDevr: again, the client insists on sending files to you via FTP? You have to run an FTP server so that they can push the files to you?
<7> SoftDevr: so, you have to -fetch- the data, not have it uploaded. that's an entirely different scenario
<3> OldMonk: it was
<6> or are you using an FTP client to get the data from them?
<4> tommi: Or the client wants him to set up the link between the ftp service adn the database.
<7> Shadur: exactly
<2> tommi: not sure what fetch means. the database creates the text files which can be saved to disk or delivered via ftp
<4> SoftDevr: You have no idea what you're doing, do you?
<6> SoftDevr: come back when you are able to describe the problem in terms that the rest of us can easily understand. We have jobs too and don't have the time to try to analyze what you're saying.
<6> s/We/Most of us/
<2> Are you saying my description doesn't make sense?
<6> ding! ding! ding!
<4> SoftDevr: We're saying you're overly verbose and keep using terms we suspect you don't understand properly yourself.
<2> Well which part is unclear, I'll clarify
<2> I guess its that I'm not used to discussion on irc channels
<4> SoftDevr: All of it. First you say that you need to parse text files to insert into a database, then you say that the database system generates those files, you mention FTP in several contexts, and you keep asking about "what your options are" as if you expect linux to be a smorgasbord of choices that you get handed to you without having to understand a damn thing.
<4> SoftDevr, please go to http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html and pay careful attention to the suggestions there. It'll improve your chances of getting a useful answer.
<2> Surely I need to parse the generated text file on the server when generating the sql query to execute
<2> Shadur: Will do, thanks
<4> SoftDevr: That part sounds uncomplicated enough. Half a dozen ways to implement it.
<2> My point now is that the problem is a valid one .
<4> What "point" are you blathering about? And what problem? You need to write a script or program to parse a text file and generate and execute SQL queries. Not seeing a problem there.
<3> Shadur: still nothing, it should've appeared, at least in dmesg
<4> tavi-san: If it didn't appear in dmesg, you can hardly blame syslog-ng for not logging a message that the kernel didn't send.
<2> Shadur: I said as much.
<3> yeah, but that's what i dont get, why isnt there
<8> "cancel what I didn't mean to do, if I did it." Users ****.
<5> your driver doesn't support reporting?
<3> that would be the weirdest **** ever, since i got only intel pro 100 on it
<0> Falchion: "What do you mean the free kitten I downloaded from www.****thatwillfuxupyoputterbad.com is evil? I think you're full of it."
<0> Oh.
<0> And yesterday, I got a request asking for "more computer" from one of the Korean researchers.
<9> s/computer/g0at-pr0n/
<0> Well... I discussed it with the gentleman's boss, who is also my boss's boss -- a nice gentleman from India -- who said that he also was wondering what he meant.
<0> ...and it turns out that dude has a CPU intensive application (I beleive MATLAB) that he would like to cluster. I suggested buying a new computer with a bad-*** processor, and they said they don't have two weeks to wait for it.
<0> So... 1.4GHz P4 I was about to surplus it is.
<9> heh...matlab is CPU hungry
<3> matlab is weak
<3> try some rendering :)
<0> ...too bad I already removed the hard drive and sent it to Wenoah to be shredded, then smelted.
<10> pewf
<9> use bcwipe 3.0 on it :)
<10> Perl and Pilsner, there is nay a better combo
<9> using a DoD wipe standard, you can re-use that drive
<10> dogbert2: wonder if they use those in their bathroom
<0> *nod* Our Chemical Engineering department once had me set up my lab (33 P3-1GHz) machines to cluster out some problem they had.
<9> rotflmao
<10> dogbert2: DoD folk wipe seven times in varying patterns
<9> you guys should just maintain a cluster (offline of course) in case of such situations
<9> Nanuq...bwhahahaha
<0> db2: I'd love to DoD wipe the drives, but unfortunately for surplus reasons, the time required to provide proof of erasure (other than that Always song) is less that the cost of a new drive to me.
<0> And anyway... if I *HAVE* old hard drives sitting around that I can use, I can't buy new ones.
<11> CancerMan: *drop* "oops. bad sectors" :P
<0> Literally, I couldn't replace the 2 button ball mice in my lab as long as I kept cleaning them.
<10> CancerMan: Hire Jr High students to come in and nick all the balls.
<0> Yeah, but why DoD wipe it so I can drop it, when I can just remove the drive as usual and give it to this nice young lady to shred.
<0> :D
<12> i found an old quantim bigfoot the other day heh
<12> quantum rather
<10> Comet-: Always wanted one of those.
<0> Nanuq: No you didn't.
<10> Comet-: Imagine how much you could store on that with today's tech?
<12> yea for real
<12> who bought out quantum?
<10> Maxtor, didn't they?
<0> Eh. Imagine how much you could store on IBM's 1961 drive with today's technology?
<12> i think so..
<10> CancerMan: heh
<12> haha
<0> ...imagine how long you'd be waiting for seeks?
<10> CancerMan: that was 5M, right?
<9> how large are some of these old drives?
<10> dogbert2: physically?
<0> That was the 50's one... The '61 drive was the same size, but had a head for each platter, and was about 4 times as large data wise.
<9> no, that cancerman has...i've used old style pizza box drive units
<0> Me? I have NOTHING like that. The oldest drive I have is an IBM 10M.
<9> <--- has repaired a drive unit after a head crash...not pretty
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<0> "
<10> CancerMan: geez, so you could easily store over a million times as much data in the same space
<10> CancerMan: 20T, with enough room for PSUs, cooling, etc.
<0> But modern technology would be SO much faster.
<10> that too
<10> and cheaper
<13> good ****ing grief it's slow restoring mysql databases
<10> good ****ing grief mysql ****s ***
<10> MySQL: Because you were too cheap to consider Oracle. Surprise!
<8> http://smw.72dpiarmy.com/ nifty
<13> Nanuq: he, I have a halfdozen oracle isntances within easy reach of my chair, and probably some 200 in the building
<10> wlfshmn: I'm just pointing out the fact that Oracle has the MySQL userbase by its balls.
<10> wlfshmn: Any other backend is deprecated, or obsoleted, and the remaining one is owned by Oracle.
<13> Nanuq: Oracle also is a 1.2GB install, instread of a 40MB one
<13> Nanuq: It's a -tad- bit more of a bother to work with
<10> wlfshmn: frankly, SQLite is a better product.
<14> postfix is a better product
<10> you mean PostgreSQL
<14> yeah that
<10> schitzo: I'm talking relative here.
<14> Nanuq: comparing mysql and oracle is like comparing an apple and a struessel
<10> schitzo: Firebird is somewhere in there. Haven't futzed with it.
<5> Falchion: when's your operation(s)?
<10> schitzo: Heh, true, but I'm not.
<10> schitzo: I'm saying that Oracle owns the guts now.
<10> Falchion: care to play?
<14> Nanuq: oh, with the purchase of innodb or whatever it is
<10> schitzo: si
<15> hey hey
<5> jgaddis
<10> schitzo: Oh well it's useless anyhow. Any RDBMS that doesn't support subqueries is useless.
<14> jgaddis: still alive eh?
<10> schitzo: Even SQLite does.
<14> Nanuq: true
<10> Or does it?
<10> Now I can't recall.
<8> OldMonk: No idea yet. I meet with my ortho doc about my shoulder on the 28th (I actually have the MRI tomorrow) and on that day we'll go over the knees and decide on the op date and stuff. :/
<15> schitzo: yeah... put almost a thousand miles on the bike since friday
<8> Nanuq: I'm at work, can't :/
<10> schitzo: Hey, wanna hear my crazy idea?
<15> and got ***** twice already because of it
<10> jgaddis: Mind the cats next time.
<14> Nanuq: sure I might ignore it depending on what's going on here at ${work}
<10> schitzo: Heh. Have you used SQLite?
<14> Nanuq: no
<10> schitzo: Oh, hrm. Well, think of it as the entire database is self-contained in one file.
<5> Falchion: well, all the best
<10> schitzo: You can embed it here and there, "connect" to the file, and it just works.
<14> Nanuq: ok. I think I've heard of it
<10> schitzo: I'm thinking that'd be awesome for email. Store the user's email in individual SQLite databases.
<15> Nanuq: kinda like access? :P
<10> rather, store user email
<15> Nanuq: exchange uses a database :P
<10> jgaddis: JET, or something worse?
<15> Nanuq: nfi, tbh
<10> jgaddis: Is it _a_ database?
<14> Nanuq: rather than a flat file like mbox or <shudder> maildir
<10> jgaddis: I had that idea before, where you store all the email in one database.
<8> OldMonk: Thanks. He said he's gonan do one knee at a time though, which is hopefully more convenient
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