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<0> afk
<1> of evern 0,1%
<2> TenBaseT: would appreciate it
<1> if u send 10 million messages
<1> u will have good roi anyway )
<2> LGr: please spell your words
<3> tornado
<4> If i login to my router how do i port forward external IPs:21 to my internal ?
<3> cgsred: depends on the router.
<4> can't this be done my iptable?
<4> s/my/by
<3> www.iptables.org, search and find out.
<5> ah, its not what size it is, its what you cast to it....
<6> void*, the biggest pointer around
<7> LGr, use english please
<5> smsie: my pointer likes its voids small and.... ok, not going there :)
<6> haha
<6> I *finally* managed to persuade java to talk to oracle
<6> mysql is still an order of magnitude faster
<7> smsie, and was it really worth it?
<5> finally?
<6> Ka-bar: well, I *must* use oracle for this stuff, so yes
<6> DaveHowe: within SBYN, yes. I've been able to do it from Eclipse all along
<5> smsie: ah, ok.
<7> smsie, oracle used to be fast until they started cramming more **** into it
<6> DaveHowe: seebeyond have deliberately made it bloody *hard* to talk to oracle unless you buy their "easy to talk to oracle" product for 40k
<7> hahahaha
<5> yup, I know that
<6> DaveHowe: I had this stuff working in eclipse two weeks ago :)
<5> not Orrible's fault though
<6> true
<7> seebeyond and whoracle pwn your checkbook. :)
<6> there is other stuff I dislike it for (no autoincrementing fields)...but you can work around those
<6> Ka-bar: ah, Oracle is free to us
<7> o_O
<7> smsie, oh, you're paying for it alright... just in other ways...
<6> once I *finaly* found the handly little "select some_sequence.currval from dual;" query, everything started to go a lot easier
<7> Oracle has autoincrementing fields.... does seebeyond just make it really difficult to use them?
<6> the seebeyond framework absolutely *refuses* to give me an updatable ResultSet, so I'm having to do everything with preparedstatements
<6> Ka-bar: no, Oraqcle does not have autoincrementing fields. It has sequences, not the same thing
<5> Ka-bar: oracle practically invented them; of the many faults orrable has, lack of functionality has never been one of them :)
<5> that's true
<6> sequences are VERY useful, but a pain in the arse
<7> smsie, oh. . .
<6> especialy when you create a row
<6> ****ing *awkward* to get the ID of that row if you put it there from a sequence
<6> most of the ways to do it involve races like you wouldn't believe
<7> well, I guess I've been doing mysql for too long. I don't know what I'd do without autoincrementing fields as primary keys...
<6> Ka-bar: you'd use sequences
<6> which are FINE if you have updatable ResultSets
<6> you grab sequence.nextval and stuff it into the ID column of the insert row, then you can read it back and know what it is
<6> if you have to use a prepared statement instead, you have NO way to know what ID it just inserted
<7> eeewww
<2> smsie: umm, the insert should return the sequence, or there'll be a method to retrieve the latest one
<6> so you have to "select sequence.currval from dual" and HOPE that you've arranged it so that nobody else has used the sequence in the meantime
<6> which means that all your inserts are synchronised to prevent races
<6> doesn't help with efficiency
<7> which you can do if you lock the table, but then performance goes straight to Hell...
<6> OldMonk: there is a method to retrieve the latest one. But this is all threaded, so you have to be sure that the latest one is the one you just used...
<2> smsie: no, i mean from the statement itself
<6> this is ONLY hard because SBYN are twats
<7> begin transaction; . . . ; commit;
<2> sbyn?
<6> seebeyond
<2> never heard of it
<6> I have a dodgy (therefore not for production use) copy of their "talk to oracle easily" tool. It makes this stuff trivial
<2> i'd suggest sticking to jdbc
<7> they can't see beyond their ***es due to the fact that their heads are so firmly embedded in them.
<6> OldMonk: it's EAI stuff. Sun just bought it and rolled it into the java enterprise suite
<6> OldMonk: I am sticking to jdbc
<6> OldMonk: but it's arranged that I can't get an updatable ResultSet, which makes life hard
<8> the time my Linux box reports, and the time reported by the ntpd running on my Linux box, do not agree
<7> hmmm...
<5> Liandrin: ntpd run in gmt; is that the issue?
<8> DaveHowe, if it were seven hours off, that would explain it
<8> DaveHowe, however, it's merely 2m53
<6> Statement has a getGeneratedKeys() method, which works fine for autoincrementing fields like you get in mysql. A sequence isn't generated by the query, it's generated by oracle
<7> ntpd get a bogus time from some other server, perhaps?
<6> there's a whole ****ty mechanism where you can persuade the statement to throw an exception chain that you can parse to work out what the value was, but **** that
<6> did I mention I hate java? :)
<7> it hates you, too
<6> yeah
<6> if I was allowed to do this stuff in Eclipse with mysql, I'd have been finished in an hour
<5> ntpd acting as a secondary for some other site, yet isn't updating your local clock?
<8> hm, ntpd was broken
<8> ntpq wasn't functioning
<6> Ka-bar: hehe
<6> maybe embedding a jvm in the kernel isn't such a bad idea
<6> native bytecode execution almost
<7> write the whole kernel in Java and put a JVM and JITC in Xen and optimize as you run...
<6> not a bad idea
<4> hmmm, I'm trying to partition an usb device, but every time when I hit w in fdisk, it says the partition table has already been altered and it doesn't save changes
<7> then sit back and watch Jes Sorensen's head explode.
<6> there are CPUs that natively run bytecode
<6> don't think they're very advanced thoguh
<7> Perl 6 has a VM and JITC which is currently running benchmarks faster than C code for some applications...
<4> ?
<7> cgsred, no clue. maybe #linuxhelp can help you.
<4> ok
<4> thanks anyway
<9> how are my beloved IRC soldiers today?
<5> what sort of usb device is it?
<9> Ka-bar! my beloved boy toy
<7> sigh...
<10> lol
<7> heya, Tawny
<10> hi
<8> Ka-bar, smsie, zAAP
<11> heya Liandrin
<8> hey K_F
<12> http://itreviews.blogspot.com/2006/04/desktopbsd.html
<11> bah
<6> hey Lian...how's life?
<8> smsie: I hate packing
<6> Liandrin: moving?
<8> smsie, unfortunately
<2> Liandrin: where to?
<8> OldMonk, Burnaby
<13> What linux would you recommend for best performance on a pentium 1 66 mhz?
<2> hmm, that's also BC, right?
<8> just east of Vancouver
<2> cool
<5> gentoo - it has best performance on *everything* :)
<4> whenever I try to edit it with fdisk it says that the partition table has been altered, it re-reads it and my changes are not applied
<11> DaveHowe: at least it has the potential :)
<2> cghmaybe you need to reboot once
<13> davehowe: ok. what about dsl+
<5> Acey: nothing wrong with it - just not as fast as gentoo, done right
<14> hey
<14> any one online?
<3> no.
<14> :))
<14> well im new to linux and have some questions, if you can help me
<5> no, we all left. please turn out the lights on the internet when yo go
<15> me neither :))
<3> L1GHTNING: www.tldp.org
<14> well i was hoping to get some "real time" help wint the OS
<5> acey: dsl isn't optimized for speed - its a "tiny" os, and a lot of files are compressed. not good when going for speed
<14> is there any any to see my ntfs partition?
<15> I am leaving really now, but the url Lion-O gave you could be useful
<14> besides Wine
<3> L1GHTNING: rtfm. Wine doesn't display ntfs partitions.
<5> L1GHTNING: yes. you can mount NTFS read only an almost any distro, and r/w support is available experimentally in several ways
<5> L1GHTNING: google for "linux ntfs support" for info
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