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<0> Coma: *** at the office eh..
<1> re all
<0> Cynic: I'm sure he doesn't need a new partner ;)
<2> so he's having *** in order to have an excuse to smoke afterwards? nice
<1> maybe its some kind of kinky nicotine patch thing
<1> eriq
<3> Qim
<3> Cynic: how goes?
<4> Gah, got to love typos like that :/
<4> Which idiot put the x so close to the c anyway
<1> not so great
<5> Can someone who doesn't rely on systemec.nl's NS servers please give me an MX lookup of janssenbouwgroep.nl and the IP address of its MX 10?
<6> Shadur: try "dig +trace"?
<0> janssenbouwgroep.nl mail is handled by 10 mail.janssenbouwgroep.nl
<0> mail.janssenbouwgroep.nl. 86400 IN A 193.141.240.185
<4> mail.janssenbouwgroep.nl. 86400 IN A 193.141.240.185
<5> Joyee. I'll have to hit my mangler a few times when he gets back from vacation, looks like.
<5> Ah well, that should straighten itself out soon enough, and in the meantime the MX 20 will hang on to the mail.
<7> hi
<7> i search suse dvd iso for 86-64
<7> thanks for your help
<1> not a problem
<1> glad you understood the total amount of help you will get here with that question.
<5> The fact that the latest SUSE isn't for free notwithstanding.
<4> Sage: What's stopping you from following the download link on the suse site?
<1> Narrows the choices down a bit, doesn't it?
<4> Shadur: Afaik, you can download 10.1 just fine
<4> Unless it's not opensuse he's after....
<7> Coma: i find thanks
<7> http://download.opensuse.org/
<1> Amazing!
<7> where i found documentation or explication for ipcs
<7> ?
<1> he's struck gold, now he's going for more
<7> Cynic why you say it ?
<4> Ah, "International Programme on Chemical Safety"
<1> Sage: because I'm in a very bad mood, and I'm a bit condescending and sarcastic at the moment :/
<1> you got me
<2> Sage: "man ipcs"?
<7> Cynic oh i see :)
<7> mod- lol
<4> Ohhh, that ipcs
<3> work!
<4> no!
<1> I also refuse.
<4> Cynic: Don't you have weekend already?
<1> Yep, which makes it all the more important to refuse the imperative: "work" ;)
<4> It's already silly that you aren't busy getting drunk already
<1> oh I'm busy
<1> the gewurztraminer is gone, a horrible cheap pinot gris is now being consumed
<1> Coma: but if you mean "go out" then, that's not really an option in this town ;)
<4> Nowhere to go out to but the outside?
<8> coma, the weather is much better now :)
<1> yep, which is about 8 or 10 degrees Celsius, which is very cold for this area :P
<4> Sunblade: Yup, though it looks like it's going rain pretty soon :/
<4> Cynic: Oh yeah, winter time down there
<4> Though I wish we'd have 10C winters ;)
<1> well, it has hit 0 up here I think, during the early hours of the morning
<1> which i realise is still nothing ;) but it depends what you're used to
<4> Cynic: We get winters well below zero, but that doesn't mean I'm ued to it :P
<4> s/ued/used/
<8> yep, rain is good for the plants :)
<8> and trees and such :P
<4> Plants? Pffft
<4> Weed grows better inside, or a greenhouse :P
<4> Oh, lunch is here!
<8> smakelijk
<4> I hope so =)
<4> Though, can't really go wrong
<9> is there any way to automatically bid just before an auction ends in ebay ?
<4> That'd be cheating, wouldn't it?
<10> Valid technique
<10> mixer--: there is software for that, no idea what it's called.
<10> There was an article on a big website about that in the last week or two
<4> Ima****ingcheatingbastard.exe :P
<10> If they beat your price, then you should have put a higher limit
<9> if I win an auction, I am FORCED to buy the item?
<4> Not that I really care though, never use ebait
<10> Sure, unless you reneg
<10> Then there's the ... question of reputation, and legal contracts
<4> mixer:If you don't want the item, wgy bid?
<10> Betting early is silly, it just gives your position away, and encourages a competitive situation
<10> Which, unless you bid for fun, is not what you want
<9> Coma I may change my mind
<10> USA today articl about the topic http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science/columnist/2006-06-25-physics-of-ebay_x.htm
<9> if I win an auction, I am FORCED to buy the item?
<4> Is this #ebay?
<9> Coma do I give a **** ?
<4> Haha, let the insults begin
<4> Aha, that idiot again
<5> ... I'm confused. By definition, a bid means a commitment to pay $amount for the item bid on, should the seller decide to sell to you, right?
<4> That's how auctions work, no?
<5> As far as I know. I don't generally participate in them, but that's how logic suggests - to me - that they'd work.
<5> So what exactly is he complaining about? That he's being "forced" to uphold the promise he made?
<4> *shrug* The guy's an ***hole anyway
<0> tsk, it's plastered all over ebay that bids placed are contracts and what not
<5> I suppose he's entitled to "changing his mind" and reneging. Just as every subsequent auctioneer is entitled to know just how he does business and decide to decline his bid.
<0> Well sure, he can fail to pay, but the seller is likely to report a non-payment. I don't know exactly how that affects the acocunt, but atleast it shows up as negative feedback, at worst, it can get his acocunt suspended
<11> i think it's a contract when you make a bid
<5> wolfie: *nod* Dunno how precisely Ebay works, but I ***ume that a seller can see a bidder's customer feedback and decline to do business?
<11> should you win
<11> i don't know of anyone who has gone to court over ebay
<0> Shadur: regular feedback is typically availible to everyone
<12> Shadur: Just jumped in, but over here if you bid on the auction site trademe(biggest here) the act of p[lacing a bid is a commitment to pay the money
<0> twonkbat: no, I doubt anyone would. It's typically too small an amount of money to worry about (the damages in question would only be for ebay-fees or whatever costs the seller has, since the item itself hasn't been shipped)
<0> if on the other hand he is refusing to pay for an item that has been shipped, it's a whoel other ballgame (and also a stupid seller)
<5> Pizbit: Like I said, I was mostly hypothesizing on the abstract concept of auctions and bidding and wondering which part of it mixer failed to grok.
<11> i've sold things on ebay before that people have later refused to pay for
<11> after a week, you make a dispute and get the listing fees back
<11> i was even a victim of those nigerian scammers too
<11> where they just buy items in bulk on new accounts and don't pay, to cut out competing auctions
<0> twonkbat: well then. then I doubt anyone would press charges since no significant damage has been made
<11> gits
<11> wlfshmn: nah, it's tiny money
<11> wlfshmn: the court fees would be higher anyway, even on the small claims track
<11> wlfshmn: but i bet someone, just someone, might have tried :)
<0> twonkbat: yeah, you become suspicious of new accounts.. then again, items I buy tend to be rare enough that that doesn't happen
<0> twonkbat: I've never bought an item for more than 4-500$.. it's penuts to go to court over
<0> now, if it's a realestate listing maybe..
<11> the most expensive ebay auction was for a jet plane i believe
<11> m
<11> yeah, i bought that
<11> for decoration
<11> garden was looking a bit plain
<11> heh, i bet paypal was out of its depth there :D
<4> *sigh* Is it weekend yet
<0> twonkbat: I think they happily collected their 1.9% though ;)
<11> lol, yeah
<11> Coma: twelve hours to weekend here :(
<0> twonkbat: but yeah, I rather doubt that was a paypal transaction ;)
<4> twonkbat: Depends on how you measure. The second I step out of my office, it's weekend to me
<11> that film, the fly, just seems daft to me
<4> But it's a cl***ic!
<11> why doesn't the fly turn into a man? i mean, the man is bigger
<11> you mean the b/w one or the 80's remake?
<4> Heh, I think the remake (didn't even know it was a remake)
<11> i couldn't watch it anyway
<4> The one with Jeff Goldblum or whatever his name was
<11> i find scenes of human transformation very disturbing and disconcerting
<11> i get that funny wriggly feeling when i see it
<4> Don't like horror movies much either?
<11> but still, sounds daft :P
<11> horror never really entertains me
<11> i start to think about the people who wrote it
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