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<0> twonkbat: Already wearing those, and don't help much to alcohol induced squinting
<0> Now that might help a little more ;)
<0> I wish the new coffeemachine was here already. Afaik it brews very good double strong double espressos
<1> i don't much like coffee
<1> i prefer a cup of green tea :)
<1> but then i'm a hippy-like creature :/
<0> Sure, a cup of tea isn't all that bad at the time, but it can't compete with a good cup of coffee
<1> i have it sometimes in starbucks
<1> but i take the decaf
<0> Since when did starbucks start selling coffee?
<1> since inception?
<1> i dunno -- first time i went in there i was 15 i think
<1> so at least 4 years
<0> Haha, that's no coffee dude. It's artificially coloured and flavoured sewerwater
<2> Coma++
<1> well, it tastes the same
<1> :)
<0> twonkbat: next thing you'll claim is that McD is selling hamburgers :P
<1> i'm not that mad
<2> and #linux is a help channel
<2> :P
<1> i don't know what mcd sell
<0> Cynic: you mean it isn't?
<1> wow, it's so difficult to get a simple p3 socket 370 board these days
<1> they all have integrated bollocks and stuff on them
<2> well, apart from free consultation on the aquisition of blue carpet..
<1> i've been on ebay now for almost an hour looking for just a basic board
<0> Cynic: And don't forget about the g0at breeding
<2> Coma: yeah, well, that's docfu's domain ;)
<0> twonkbat: No store around the corner with some old stock?
<2> nope, he's not here
<1> Coma: i could try one in town but i doubt he has anything -- he pushes all the latest gear
<0> twonkbat: Unless he's part of some large retail chain, he's bound to have some old gear left.
<1> how good are the ac97 drivers in alsa or oss? for quality that is -- if it doesn't sound too bad, i've got one that just has integrated sound on my screen
<0> twonkbat: Hard to tell, since there's quite a number of different chips conforming to ac97
<1> buggering hell
<0> And the one's crappier than the other and then you're still ignoring the build quality of the mobo and the rest of the computer
<1> i imagine i'll still use my sb live
<0> If you're serious about hifi, using onboard stuff is out of the question
<1> it's not life or death for me but i can't stand poor audio
<1> i've used my live with oss/free for a long time now, sounds great, so if forced to buy a board with integrated audio, i'll probably turn it off in the bios
<0> With the right choice of music, you can even hide that ;)
<1> hmmm, dual p3 board here looks nice
<1> even comes with the two chips :o
<1> not bad for
<0> Lol, and at one time I paid a fortune for similar setup
<1> was it when it was quite new?
<0> twonkbat: Very new
<3> holy ****, people still uses oss/free drivers? :)
<0> The asus p2b-ds had only become available weeks before
<1> libolt: i do
<1> libolt: wasn't impressed by alsa to be honest
<4> what's the easiest way to debug outgoing mail with exim ?
<0> lastman: Look at your maillog?
<3> ah well whatever works, I've been happy with alsa for years now with my sb lives and audigy
<0> And perhaps listen in on it using ethereal
<0> Oh, gotta order lunch before it's too late
<5> libolt: :)
<1> my amarok just died :/
<0> Now I only have to wait it's lunch time
<1> brb, sister is singing and she can't sing
<0> lol
<1> right, sorted :)
<1> old sock in the mouth does no harm
<0> Or you could have tried competing, using a heavy amp and largish speakers
<1> my brother is a musician and lives upstairs with the piano, guitars, amps and stuff like that
<1> your idea isn't too difficult to realise
<0> Works marvelously well against loud neighbours too
<0> ssh g
<1> they have campfire song sessions each night
<0> Gah, it's going to be one of those days again :/
<1> i wouldn't feel sorry for them at all
<0> Ugh, how can people keep that for a hobby
<1> i'll ask them for you if you want
<1> they thing i'm strange anyway so it isn't going to come across as odd
<1> s/thing/think
<0> I think I don't even want to know. Probably a couple of those feel good idiots
<1> it's three of them...
<1> all involved
<1> the extra voice helps to penetrate the sound-proofing you see
<0> lol
<0> And this is where I'd bring in a P.A. system
<1> or a grenade collection
<1> it has crossed my mind
<1> i mean, grenades explode, so no fingerprints...
<0> Don't be too sure about that :P
<0> If you've got to believe those forensic programs on discovery channel, they'll even find out what you had for dinner the night before :P
<1> yeah i've seen those
<1> incredible what they can do
<1> i bet i'm guilty of killing j.f.k. if they look hard enough
<1> "just because you were not born then is besides the point -- what's your fricking dna doing there?"
<0> Hmm, what to do, what to do
<0> It being friday, doing some actual work is out of the question
<1> if it was me, i'd sleep
<1> or shag something
<0> Oh, sleep'd be good, but it'd fetch me silly looks here at work.
<1> what do you do?
<1> for work i mean
<0> Hmm, programmer, admin, security consultant, troubleshooter, etc
<0> Depends on which way the wind blows and what customers want ;)
<1> i'm a student, which means i do feck all
<1> :)
<1> mostly
<0> Been there, (haven't) done that either :P
<1> heh, my kde has come without the volume control applet
<1> i got loads of other crap in there but not that
<0> No mixer panel or anything similar either?
<1> i've got the mixer but that's it
<1> i was looking for that one that looks like a speaker
<1> i'm probing aptitude now
<0> And as long as people are put up with half-***ed **** like that, linux will never make it on the desktop
<1> closest thing i've got is the arts controller
<4> I am trying to debug a standard exim installation that won't deliver to remote hosts
<1> christs, what is the name of that applet? i'm trying "kde volume" in aptitude search but i get loads
<1> s/christs/christ
<1> aptitude install knob
<1> whoops
<0> Shouldn't it be part of the kdemultimedia package?
<0> Or even core perhaps
<1> i thought so too
<1> i just gave it a go
<6> is there a place where I could find a list with all the wireless cards supported under *nix?
<1> i installed kde-core on debian unstable and expected it to be there already really
<4> so the exim..it's standard config. no remote delivery. I type this for testing
<4> exim4 -d -bt user@remote.com
<1> i found it :D
<1> volume.app in apt :)
<4> it says: routing user@remote.com and then: no more routers
<4> user@remote.com is undeliverable -> Unrouteable address
<4> what could the problem be ?
<0> lastman: Can you manually lookup the mx record for remote.com and resolve that?
<4> yes
<4> set q=mx, remote.com resolves properly
<0> And you can actually resolve its mx to an A record? And is the result a routable #ip
<4> yes
<0> Hmmm
<4> I can connect using: telnet mail.remote.com 25
<4> I get the smtp prompt
<0> Heh, this is probably why I tend to replace exim immediately after setting up a new debian box. It's config makes as much sense as sendmail's
<0> lastman: Oh, how's that for a solution, install postfix ;)
<4> eh, going for qmail instead
<0> Yuck
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