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<0> Ka-bar, see ya
<1> dj_shadow: like what?
<2> ok
<2> thx
<3> dj_shadow: just knock it off with the ****ing 'yeh' crap, would you?
<1> please dear God don't tell me you mean the $variable definition
<4> D-side: Hence Visual Basic
<5> dollar sign bar dash less than order left paren single quote beer single cuote right paren semi colon
<1> PolarWolf: unbelievable.
<4> dj_shadow: Like I said, you're an idiot :)
<3> Lion-O: what happened to the mutt's flood detector. It should've kicked dj_shadow here several times earlier.
<5> aww
<5> gay-bar, be nice
<1> dj_shadow: i'm not going to be cruel and tell you're an idiot
<1> aw.
<5> hrmm
<4> D-side: Never held you back before
<3> bouncy
<6> dj_shadow: what's so hard about perl
<1> i do want you to point to your ***hole, and then to your elbow.
<1> just to make sure you know the difference.
<7> Ka-bar: nothing wrong with it. And please don't tell the ops how to do their jobs.
<5> it makes no sense to me. it's just a bunch of gibberish with arbitrary variables
<6> What?
<0> wasabi anyone?
<6> use English; then.
<1> thats hilarious
<6> personally I like $$ a lot better than GetProcessID();
<1> considering anyone who knows the history perl realizes Larry was a linguist.
<4> dj_shadow: Understanding and using languages requires you to put effort into learning them, aside from knowing how to program. If the latter is true, the former generally comes easy
<1> part of the damn point of the language was to make it human parsable.
<3> Lion-O: I'm not telling anyone how to do their jobs. I was simply wondering why he hadn't been kicked the previous several times that he was obviously flooding.
<0> D-side, cant say they did a great job :)
<7> aaaah, how I missed broadband
<5> yeh, and yet it isn't that parsable to a normal human
<6> dj_shadow: I guess all of us here are super-human, then.
<4> dj_shadow: because you don't know the language
<6> dj_shadow: Anyway ,if you like human-readable, go try COBOL.
<5> i can do the logic and come up with solutions to things i still have a hard time dealing with the funky symbols
<6> It uses English words and punctuation.
<5> yeh
<3> dj_shadow: did you catch that? Perl was designed by a linguist. It's supposed to be readable and, for most people, it is.
<5> a lot of places still use cobol right?
<5> and yet it's not readable by most people
<3> wrong
<5> unless you mean by most computer nerds?
<8> what in the **** are you talking about
<3> it's not readable by you, perhaps.
<4> dj_shadow: most people shouldn't be programming anyway
<6> COBOL was designed to be readable by non-computer people
<5> nah dude
<8> cobol and fortran are totally readble.
<0> Menno, try intercal will you? :P
<7> first of all this is #linux. second of all everyone knows Java is the way to go :)
<5> yeh
<6> A lot of early COBOL programmers were secretaries.
<1> afk.
<1> Lion-O: wow.
<5> readable by non computer people seems good
<4> most people are too lazy are plain old dumb to learn a language properly
<1> while i'm afk, i'll make time to vomit. :D
<7> D-side: going already? Just after I really stirred up the pot? ;)
<4> hence all the ****ing crap software
<5> i already learned pascal
<5> it was a pretty amazing language
<7> PolarWolf: absolutely
<8> COmmon Business Oriented Language
<6> Pascal is a pretty amazingly stupid language
<7> PolarWolf: that is indeed very true. I see this happening almost daily with regards to my Java study.
<0> http://www2.latech.edu/~acm/helloworld/Intercal.html
<5> i don't see what's stupid about it
<8> it reads like a paragraph describing a function
<4> Lion-O: Aye
<0> "PLEASE DO , 1"
<4> I don't claim to be a star programmer, not do I aspire to be one
<7> PolarWolf: people who are even too lazy (dumb?) to look something up in a reference document to find the right approach to a problem (for example; converting a String "2" to a number value).
<4> I do know algorithms and can do stuff in C, Perl, Java, Python and VB
<9> so... how 'bout that north korea?
<3> schitzo: gl***ed over yet?
<9> Ka-bar: not yet
<3> damn
<0> schitzo, just go to war already ;)
<8> that'd ****
<8> it'd all drift east over japan
<6> dj_shadow: what language DO you use
<6> TBT: On the plus side, they already know how to deal with fallout.
<8> NK is nothing but dirt and rock as it is. a nuke wouldnt really make things that much worse
<4> dj_shadow: He's looking for the best, we said "perl", and he doesn't like it
<8> aahahahah
<8> GODZIRRA!
<6> yeah the Communists got the bad deal when they partitioned Korea
<10> rook rook@@@@!!!
<3> ha
<8> I mean maybe there's a nice part of .NK that you never see in pictures but every single picture I've ever seen looks like a bunch of dirt farmers
<10> i relly dont need a dedicated irc monitor.. its gets highly distracting.
<8> well, ****, he's 0-2
<5> uh
<5> nah
<5> maybe it's the best for you
<5> but think about it for someone that doesn't like to deal with arbitrary and stupid symbols
<5> yeh
<5> cobol seems pretty good
<4> dj_shadow: So do your own evaluations then
<4> dj_shadow: COBOL is dead, dude.
<5> yeh i did some, but i just wanted to see if you guys knew some more
<11> PW: Cobol was designed for non-programmers, wasn't it?
<5> how is cobol dead
<4> dj_shadow: It's the language of mainframes. There's a small legacy market for it, and that's it.
<5> yeh
<5> cobol seems pretty good
<12> cobol is soooo verbose
<8> Shadur: yeah
<5> yeh
<3> thank you thank you
<5> hrmm
<5> i like verbose
<8> fortran still has a niche where it will survive for another few decades too
<11> dj_shadow: We noticed.
<5> okie, are there any languages that aren't dead that are verbose?
<0> dj_shadow, you like verbose and yet you dont manage to spell "yeah" out fully?
<8> pascal
<12> heh
<8> Delphi
<9> PolarWolf: there is virual cobol. How can you say cobol is dead when we have Visual Mother F'n COBOL?
<4> dj_shadow: Java or something, I dunno. Use some languages, see what you like.
<8> you know whats cool, is writing procedural code in UML and having an autocoder spit out completely correct code in any language you choose
<5> yeh is a real world
<5> there's a visual cobol?
<5> cool
<12> yeh is a real world?
<5> what is uml
<8> lay off the enter key dude.
<5> lol
<4> Okay, playtime is over
<5> my bad, i mean real word
<5> crap
<5> :<
<8> Unified Modelling Language. it's more or less a Rational Invention
<5> k
<5> oh, so it doesn't really exist then
<8> jesus he's useless.
<10> he lasted 37x longer than i thought
<8> I want to tear out his heart and we can all take turns pissing in the hole
<4> Yeah, but then you guys see my ****
<8> hahah
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