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<0> a linux box wouldn't need ntfs or fat32 partitions to interface with windows machines
<1> and windows doesn't have ext3 support.
<0> so use ntfs on windows boxes
<0> there is no reason to have them in a linux box
<1> nevermind.
<1> the concept of dual booting a box with only one hdd is apparently alien to you :P
<0> ntfs linux support is for troubleshooting windows drives on a linux box. there isn't a reason to have it otherwise.. unless you're dealing with removable media. but as for hdd partitions...none
<1> i'd rather not dubplicate my media on two different partitions.
<0> Ninevolt: dual booting is for people who can't comitt
<0> commit rather
<1> and windows has limited filesystem support.
<2> NineVolt: there are several ext2 drivers for windows though, which works fine on ext3 just no journaling
<1> Gathond : that scares me. i wasn't aware.
<2> NineVolt: its alot easier than trying to reverse engineer ntfs:)
<2> so I would expect it to be generally more stable than ntfs on linux, I've not used it that much though so it might be prone to errors as well
<3> NineVolt: ext2ifs is one of them, in case you want to look it up
<3> http://www.fs-driver.org/
<4> hmm.. now my keyboard is acting up..
<4> hmm; permnen shift and no ctrl
<0> i'm upset. my ogg encoding speed seems to have dropped a lot at some point in time. not sure what change caused it.. encoding in parallel used to give like 35x + now it's just 20x
<5> later
<6> damn. how do i edit sources.list ?
<6> i mcan find it in filebowser but it won;t allow me to save the added lines
<6> can*
<3> revered: make sure to use a user that has write-permission...
<6> i thought i was already working in su
<7> Someone who says "working in su" has zero business messing with system files.
<3> seconded
<7> What makes you think you need to know "how linux works"?
<6> the little popup window that explains it to me in sign language.
<6> looks a bit like this: ..|.
<3> revered: still, knowing how to use GNU/Linux != knowing how GNU/Linux works
<3> and ESPECIALLY not equal to knowing how linux works
<6> wow
<6> amazing
<6> i think i found out how to empty my mind!
<6> thanks
<6> unfortunately i still don;t know how to add the lines to the sources.list
<8> heh. if you're in X, running su in a terminal only affects that terminal, not your file browser :P
<6> thanks. lol
<8> just cd to that directory in the terminal and edit the file there ;P
<6> i'll go try that.
<3> dogbert2: I have Artist: Alfonse Mouzon Title: By All Means playing here, myself
<9> well, since I have HSI now, I can doing internet radio, streaming, etc :)
<3> dogbert2: excuse my ignorance, but HSI?
<10> hehe
<9> High Speed Internet (i.e. - DSL or Cable Modem) :)
<3> hue,saturation,intensity?
<3> Hsi.h made more sense than that abbreviation :p
<6> hmm.. can;t cd there..
<6> no such file or directory
<3> type it properly, then
<6> i have
<6> cd /etc/apt/sources.list
<3> *cough*
<3> ..... no
<7> revered: What makes you think you need to modify sources.list, anyway?
<6> the page i'm using on howtoforge says i need to.
<3> to do... what?
<6> it tells me to add 2 lines
<6> Now you have to install some packages that are needed by kernel 2.6. Add the following line to /etc/apt/sources.list:
<6> deb http://www.backports.org/debian/ woody module-init-tools initrd-tools procps
<6> it doesn;t tell me how.
<9> apt-get install raging-hard-on-caused-by-viagra
<11> Ermhrmz...what's the HTML code for the EUR sign?
<3> PolarWolf: € ?
<11> Lessee
<7> revered: You're stupid enough to still be using Woody?
<11> Ah, indeed it is. I could've come upwith that one myself
<6> apparently
<6> what's wrong with woody?
<0> woody is like 7 years old
<6> this page was written in 2004
<6> has link to one for sarge..
<3> according to my calendar that is some years ago, now
<6> but i figured i'd just use this one
<3> things could've changed a thousand times since then..
<10> i haven't used names in sources.list since there was a major ****up years ago. stable, unstable or experimental now
<6> so youre saying i don;t need to edit it?
<6> apt-get update will get me what i need anyway?
<3> revered: we still don't know wtf you're trying to do. so you'll have to be the judge of that..
<10> no, you need to update woody to the current stable
<10> then you won't need to add those lines
<7> K_F: He thinks he's competent to upgrade a Woody box to use a 2.6 kernel.
<3> rofl
<6> i did take the newest kernel i could find.. 2.6.19.1
<0> this is weird. before running two oggenc's in parallel resulted in something like a 1.5x perf increase in both processes. now i'm seeing a slight decrease in perf on both processes. wtf.
<12> revered: if you're this new then you shouldn't be messing with this stuff.
<3> Lion-O: amen..
<6> Lion-O: how lse will i get SMP and access to my NTFS
<0> I dont see how the kernel could cause that ... unless going from a 250hz timer to 300 made a strange but significant difference.
<12> revered: by actually reading the manual I'd say.
<6> what manual
<6> *grin*
<12> revered: the one with your distribution ?
<7> revered: Why do you think you need to use Linux in the first place?
<12> Most stock kernels supply the ntfs kernel module and the distro as a whole can be made to support smp.
<7> Most distributions these days provide a single SMP/non-SMP kernel anyway.
<10> debian includes both
<12> mwilson: yups
<6> i got fed up with re-installing windows
<10> i've recently had to use a woody install cd, smooth upgrade to current stable with smp kernel
<6> besides that my machine seems to work muc faster under linux
<6> much*
<12> lol
<3> probably just a different load average, since you haven't had time to get it rootkit'ed yet..
<0> hrm..
<3> don't worry, with your competence it will get there in due time..
<7> revered: If you
<7> revered: If you're so incompetent that you have to keep reinstalling Windows, what makes you think you're competent to use Linux?
<12> the repo men!
<3> probably the most efficient way of distributing a worm and at the same time have root access
<3> well, virus, not worm
<9> uptime: 1 day, 10:49 (ph33r)
<3> hehe
<9> everyone is pr0lly saying...that ain't ph33r
<3> well, it could be a 32 bit counter that has flipped over
<9> naww...that's my wrt54g running dd-wrt
<3> what was it, 397 days that was max for some time..
<3> reached it at one point too, but the HW died on me :|
<3> hmm, I'm getting way too little email here..
<0> highest uptime I had a box on was 1.5 years, it was a crappy trash parts made computer i was using as my firewall before I made my WRAP box. the only reason it was turned off was because i had to move and the UPS batteries had failed due to them being 4 years old
<9> funky!
<13> interestin
<0> garbage picked hdd and all.
<3> safemode: HDD said bye bye in my case
<0> i'm very perplexed by my server right now
<3> good thign too, forced me to purchase a new box, so restored backups on some secondary systems around the world and had a new box up within a couple of weeks myself
<0> oggenc used to encode much faster when run in parallel than by running it linear. Now it runs slower in parallel than linear. Running it with nice -n -20 results it in running slower than regular 0.
<3> safemode: hehe
<0> it shouldn't run slower with nice -20, it doesn't interact with any other procesess
<14> anyone ever use one of those ethernet to wireless bridges?
<3> I prefer a proper AP
<0> i did change my sched timer from 250hz to 300hz when i updated my kernel. perhaps some other -mm changes could have resulted in a regression
<3> safemode: quite possible, timer changes have some odd results at times
<3> numerous threads about it on lkml
<14> K_F: I have an AP. My new DTV HD DVR has an ethernet jack on it, but I don't want to run a cable.
<0> i've always used 250hz or less... just trying out something a bit higher ...perhaps I should revert it back to 250hz and see if it makes a difference
<14> K_F: just want to use the ethernet->wireless bridge thing for it.
<3> schitzo: only one way to find out how it works :)
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