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<0> Lion-O: these guys do it for free
<0> Lion-O: s/didn't feel like/couldn't at the time of order/ :P
<1> amnesiax: I'm also advised that they're too slow for mythTV to work properly on them if your tv card hasn't a hardware decoder.
<1> amnesiax: I've used the ML6000EA, which is a fanless 667.
<2> Jostein: whoah... No, I can imagine that one :/
<3> whyzzyrd: ah.ok.thank you.i`m thinking about linux based home theatre for dvd\divx playing
<0> Lion-O: better with slightly crappy net than even more crappy and expensive GPRS "net" :P
<1> amnesiax: If you can get the acceleration going it *ought* to work. I can't guarantee from my experience that it will though.
<0> Lion-O: the telco is supposed to get here thursday and install the line. Lets hope thats actually the case
<4> Im running ubuntu 5.10 on an old (8yrs +) it goes fine but a little slow except for the fact that sometimes on startup it hangs, not always in the same place, where shold I start looking to find the problem ?
<2> QuietFrank: the logfiles.
<5> Is there some size-limit for initrd? I'm attempting to get my diskless machine booting fedora, it loads the kernel+initrd from the tftp server, but won't start the initrd script. A slackware initrd (half the size) works fine!
<2> Jostein: *nod*, time to keep the fingers crossed.
<6> Lion-O!
<6> whoa, how'd i get a donut again?



<0> Lion-O: fingers crossed and BT prepared :P
<7> well, my migraine feels a bit better now that I've had a fairly hefty dose of strong painkilles
<8> Cynic: you could p*** it to me if you wanted.
<8> lol.
<2> mc
<2> whoops
<0> Liandrin: I dont envy you that migrane of yours
<0> Liandrin: migrane minus typos
<8> Liandrin: eww. You're still getting those?
<2> Cynic: Well, I guess that was a kind of magic ;)
<9> hiya's
<8> Anyhow, it's time I left.
<10> Linux is for BSD wannabes that **** fat elephant cock while they watch Spanish soap operas on HDTV, while blowing their hairy wives.
<11> in 2004 he challenged transvestite candidate Jennifer Gale to a debate at the University of Texas student union on the topic of who should best represent the homeless. Gale declined to participate unless given $50 of Wendy's food. The event organizers declined.
<12> Woot, spanish operas
<13> For the record, the bjc610a0.upp driver does not work with Canon imageRUNNER 3300 printers. In fact, unpleasant stuff happens. :)
<14> CeruleanD: Uh, they have PPDs for those
<13> Where, on Canon's site?
<12> For the record, I've never used a printer in linux. I have enough fun with wifi in linux
<14> CeruleanD: IIRC, yes
<14> CeruleanD: I got some for the iR3100C, anyhow
<14> safemode: wifi is so far working OK for me, but it's a bit fragile
<1> rhowe: my experience is similar
<14> safemode: I have a homemade AP, and a homemade wifi <--> ethernet gateway
<14> safemode: Every time I try to get another device onto my wifi link, it kills it (maybe if the other devices were running madwifi, it'd be OK...)
<13> ooo, I went looking but haven't found them yet, so I went with the MultiP*** C3000, hoping it was "close enough", and after 40 pages later and having to power off the printer and pull 4 jammed pieces out, I see that that's not right. :)
<12> rhowe: madwifi doesn't support my atheros card apparently. that or my wrap box needs a soft reboot to get it to work...in any case, i'm not rebooting without really good reason..
<13> I can't find imageRUNNER on Canon's site at all
<12> But i will reboot this box in a bit. ****ing clock is haywire
<1> rhowe: my atheros with 2.6.9 and whichever madwifi was current back then was fine.
<1> rhowe: with recent kernels and madwifi, it just stops shoving packets every so oten
<12> i have a 6th gen atheros card ... the driver itself said it wasn't supported... But I wont know for certain that it doesn't work at all until i soft reboot it.
<13> nevermind.
<13> I'd swear I told it I wanted the "business products", but it asked me that like 4 times and I guess one of those times I must've hit consumer by accident...
<1> hmm. down to 33% on the lapdog batteries.
<1> suppose beating the living **** out the hard disk all evening drops the lifetime somewhat.
<14> whyzzyrd: Hm, not sure what I'm running at the moment
<14> whyzzyrd: Updating is a bitch.. too many kernel patches to put in. 2.6.16 should be welcome - IPv6 stateful firewalling should finally make it into mainline
<6> bloody distractions...
<1> rhowe: I gave up and used my cisco aironet pcmcia card instead last time I needed it to work without my kicking it every 20 mins.
<14> whyzzyrd: Ah, mine have miniPCI slots
<1> rhowe: I've got all sorts of issues with 2.6. If anything would convince me that linux isn't enterprise ready, it'll be the shambolic kernel development model.
<14> whyzzyrd: I (so far) haven't had any real problems... but then again I don't stress it too much
<14> whyzzyrd: I'd still love to get OpenBSD on the Soekrisen though
<1> rhowe: my machine has minipci too, just it's full of the ethernet/modem card.
<1> rhowe: I'm using 2.6 in production on quad Xeons. They hold up under load, but I'm trying to trace why sar is reporting 0% idle cpu.
<1> rhowe: vmstat gets it right
<14> whyzzyrd: Ah, well I don't have any such fancy hardware
<15> rhowe: did you encounter a problem with soekris+obsd, or havent tried yet?
<1> rhowe: I expect most people that do don't use linux on em either.
<1> rhowe: I'm just backporting the latest sar to sarge, to see if that fixes it.
<1> I don't *really* want to have to move to etch on production kit
<1> and I've already got enough bitching about Linux "being a problem" at work.
<7> whyzzyrd, sar?
<14> D-side: Not tried
<7> rhowe's pants, not mine ;)



<1> Liandrin: from sysstat package
<13> <grumble> I shouldn't have to create an account and get a license just to get printer drives. </grumble>
<13> drivers
<1> rhowe: moved in together then?
<7> whyzzyrd, what's sar do?
<1> Liandrin: it's a package that monitors system activity and reports on it
<16> Hi, someone can help with a bash script?
<1> Hi, $nick, do you need help? Msg Y to Hellhound.
<1> that'll get em bashed soon enough
<1> heh
<16> hi
<1> Turcko: I strongly suggest you go to #linuxhelp instead.
<16> thanks whyzzyrd
<13> Has anyone ever used BrightQ from codehost.com?
<14> whyzzyrd: Not yet
<14> whyzzyrd: Still looking for a flat
<1> rhowe: bet itsnot cheap down there.
<1> ****. nearly midnight. I have to be up in 7 hours.
<14> whyzzyrd: Something like -800pcm
<1> rhowe: not cheap then
<14> whyzzyrd: Not really, no
<17> all your bases are belong to us
<1> gnubee: all the idiots appear to belong to us. never mind bases.
<17> full house and nobody's talking
<1> gnubee: it's late man
<1> gnubee: I'm seeing my sleep drain away, lost to needing to work on the bloody computer
<12> anyone using debian unstable AMD64?
<1> safemode: nearly. I pinned it to etch about 2 weeks back.
<18> safemode I have briefly, how come?
<12> I just dist-upgraded a little while ago. rebooted and now make is borking on kernel compiles due to some problem manipulating the output to shell commands
<12> and i can't figure out what ****ing ones because make error output gives bogus line numbers for everything
<1> ickyak
<13> ew
<1> safemode: hate to point out that it is unstable, and it'll prolly be fixed in a few days
<12> i know, ***uming it's an actual problem...which is why i wanted to know if anyone else was having it
<13> Not today. What distro?
<1> CeruleanD: read back a few lines eh?
<13> oh, right, heh, sorry
<13> *goes back to his little hole in the corner*
<1> hehe
<12> whyzzyrd: can you run make kernelrelease on some 2.6 kernel for me and tell me what it reports and the actual kernel version too
<12> I want to make sure i hardcoded mine correctly ... i set the kernelrelease to 2.6.16 for a kernel that's versioned 2.6.16-rc2
<1> 2.6.13.4 is returned for a 2.6.13.4 kernel
<1> want me to snag an rc and see what it does?
<12> sure if you'd be so kind :)
<12> looks like i'll be changing my hardcoded value ...dont want to make anything mismatch if that's the case.
<1> just a mo. going to take a sec to d/l
<1> oops it finished while I was typing
<19> hmm..
<19> whyz
<6> eriq
<19> q1m
<1> 2.6.16-rc2 produces 2.6.16-rc2
<1> safemode: there
<19> apples produce apple juice
<19> neat eh?
<1> true
<19> whyzzyrd: how goes?
<1> Nanuq: crap
<19> whyzzyrd: ****age. what specifically?
<1> Nanuq: tis 1am and I'm beggering about doing data recovery
<19> whyzzyrd: feh
<12> hrm.. wonder why there is a KERNELRELEASE and a KERNELVERSION if they're both going to hold the same value.... oh well. that solves that.
<20> meep!
<12> brb
<1> And I have to be up for work at 7am
<14> http://www.zug.com/gab/index.cgi?func=view_thread&head=1&thread_id=31642
<1> rhowe: not that funny


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