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<0> all it does it excite your water content, causing little bits of you to buil. with enough exposure, parts get cooked enough to stay damaged ;)
<0> s/buil/boil/
<1> not a pleasant thought, that's for sure
<0> Tamahome: so, take my word for it, don't go fiddling with your waveguide ;)
<1> indeed
<1> so wlfy, I'm still dying to find a good "at home" programming project
<0> Tamahome: that is insanely difficult ;)
<0> Tamahome: I've finally found one I think I may even complete ;)
<1> yes, yes it is
<0> Tamahome: but it only took me a decade
<2> wlfshmn: World domination? ;)
<1> my last one was a program to index my burnt anime collection (wrote it in .NET, no less)
<0> Tron: thats on the backburner ;)
<2> wlfshmn: You'll have to beat me to that, then :P
<2> wlfshmn: http://dilbertblog.typepad.com/the_dilbert_blog/2006/07/secret_society.html
<3> ipw2200 problem: ipw2200 is listed as eth1 under the hardware tab within network manager (Fedora Core 5), however, it is not listed under the devices tab. I would like to have it listed in device so as to be capable of setting it active.



<0> Tron: I'm open for collaboration. I'm sure we can divide the spoils ;)
<2> wlfshmn: Oh really? *pinky finger to mouth* ;)
<0> Tron: Sure. You can be my #2 ;)
<0> anyway, it's time for bed I think
<4> I went to buy my new phone today but the Tmobile stand wasn't open even though the store hours posted online said they were
<4> I took it as a sign
<1> night, wlfy
<5> Sean, wlf, Tron
<1> Eric
<2> Nanuq: Greetings
<2> wkfn'night
<2> Erk.
<2> wlfshmn: n'night
<6> how do I find out the switch port speed? 10mbit or 100mbit
<7> 'man ethtool'
<6> ok
<6> was ethtool -s !?
<8> in or out?
<9> no in'n out
<1> thank you for revolving the door
<8> Guess I'll stay outside for a while to cool down 8)
<1> viking-san :)
<6> Ka-bar, well its an old Red Hat Linux release 7.3 (Valhalla) and doesn't have ethtool
<7> BattleNet: oh, well, time to upgrade then, lest you get pwned, if you haven't already.
<10> morning...
<8> BattleNet: that stuff shouldn't even BE on the internet.
<6> Ka-bar, nop isn't pwned
<1> what's a "multi-function" card
<8> BattleNet: bull****
<6> Lion-O, i must deal with it either i like it or nor
<7> BattleNet: seriously, RH7.3 was end-of-life quite some time ago and hasn't been maintained/patched. There are some serious security holes in it. For your own sake, upgrade.
<6> not*
<8> BattleNet: not pwnd my ***.
<8> "some scripts" were running on it doing "some ddos" and you think its not pwnd?
<8> let me guess; you're not going to reinstall that box ?
<6> that was on another one
<8> sure it is
<6> and its' alredy set for reinstall
<7> you had another RH7.3 box get pwned and you think this other one is safe? HAHAHAHA
<9> Lion-O, though to his defense, these "some ddos" things usually if not always run as httpd as some ****tards php script is being abused.
<10> Tamahome: it's a card that's got USB 2.0, Firewire and SATA (and raid) on it.
<1> Viking: ah.
<8> fredk: but how did it get there? And surely you're aware of the (many) local root exploits.
<11> Viking667: winduhs takes one look and screams bloody murder?
<10> err, it jams.
<11> same thing
<9> Lion-O, it got there through some **** that didnt know how to program and made his scripts wide open, surely you've seen all the bad php scripts
<10> no, it's not. "Screams bloody murder" is BSOD. jams is... doesn't even GET the desktop loaded.
<8> fredk: boiling down to "where do I give the webserver write access".
<6> Lion-O, sorry that was FC3, 2.6.12-1 as i've said
<9> Lion-O, that said, I wouldnt trust there to be no root exploits in RH7.3 :)
<7> uh huh
<8> fredk: my customers can write to their stuff nicely. but the webserver doesn't have write permissions. Where it does the partition (or slice) is mounted "noexec".
<10> Basically, this machine gets as far as loading drivers, and then goes nowhere. *sigh*
<9> Lion-O, so, you just run "perl $noexecpath/script.pl" then
<1> la la land
<8> fredk: thats "different" :)
<9> Lion-O, noexec *helps* but its far from being the holy grail



<8> fredk: as long as we have kiddies going "My root no work" I'd say noexec is a very important and liable protection against the kiddies.
<8> not perfect. true.
<9> Lion-O, it helps, but most people get around it
<8> fredk: but only with scripts :)
<9> hehe
<8> what happens if you wish to download your sploit? ;)
<9> wget? :P
<8> fredk: on a noexec partition? ;)
<8> morale of the story; remove perl and you're safe :) # /me gets another beer 8)
<9> wget isnt STORED on the noexec partition
<9> though, its not a good idea to have a publically available wget that I can agree on.
<12> ****e
<8> lol
<8> clones! attack of the clones!
<8> fredk: but after you wget'ted the sploit, then what? ;)
<12> Lion-O, mutant clones
<7> o/~ send in the clones o/~
<12> Lion-O, depends on if its a script sploit or you need to compile it
<12> if you gotta compile it tough shiht
<12> you dont have a publically available c compiler on a production system anyway
<8> fredk_: but how are you going to execute it ? ;-)
<12> Lion-O, voodoo I say
<8> fredk_: works for me.
<12> seriously though, it helps, but most people want to abuse your box by running ****ed up perl scripts
<12> to ddos or some ****
<8> it says here.. "throw the heated herbed wine over the to protected object". hmmm
<11> sorry HellPuppy's urine doesn't exactly excite me
<9> Ok, back again I hope
<8> aaah
<9> aaah?
<8> something different from "ooooh"
<7> hell "puppy?
<1> fall down go boom?
<9> hmm
<9> Sorry, Google does not serve more than 1000 results for any query. (You asked for results starting from 1900000.)
<9> google ****s :P
<7> fredk: hey, you get what you pay for. :P
<9> ;)
<9> I think they just make up their hit numbers hehe
<1> argh, my 404 page isn't working right
<2> And with that, I bid you all, au revoir.
<2> *detach*
<8> Going to Japan?
<1> bai
<8> ah, to sleep
<13> must be nearly your bed time, Lion-O?
<13> seeing as it's nearly my lunch time ;)
<8> hmm 8)
<8> Cynic: 2:45am, so yes.
<13> going to bed never seems that important... *staying* in bed once you wake up in the morning usually sounds like a wonderful idea, however.
<8> Cynic: soo,how is life there? ;-)
<13> i'm not sure how i managed to get up today :P
<8> hehe 8)
<14> Cynic: That's how I feel about it exactly.
<8> well.. Time for a final checkup and then time for a last beer.
<13> Lion-O: life here is good... my poker playing wasn't so great on Sunday, but you can't win every time
<1> wow, what a hater
<13> how does one hack an IP?
<5> Cynic: very carefully
<15> ugh.
<8> time for me to sleep and dream about naked javabeans :P
<8> eeew :P
<1> fresk
<1> errrr freak
<8> I think I'll shift that diea 8)
<8> idea
<1> I think we should tell Daph
<16> hi al


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