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<0> It shows you all partitions.
<1> BattleNet: wrong.
<2> ah
<2> ok
<3> Lion-O, virtualization seems to be the next big thing
<4> all mounted partiotions anyway
<3> or IS the big thing
<1> fredk: IMO it already is.
<3> Yea
<4> fredk: it IS
<3> Jostein, I didnt jump on the bandwagon yet
<0> That's why we're offering it.
<3> Dairenn, virtuozzo?
<0> My boss went with Microsoft's solution for it.
<0> I was pushing for OpenVZ.
<3> Dairenn, hehe



<0> That's how it is. heh
<3> did any of you guys try OpenVZ?
<0> I want to use it on my own server.
<0> So if a "server" get fubar, I can just toast it and make another one.
<0> What happened to that last 1MHz, sir? ;-)
<4> well. BIOS reports 832 anyway
<0> Hehehe.
<4> its probably 832.67 or something
<0> right
<3> I'm thinking of trying offering virtualization at some point
<0> It's nifty.
<3> The technology should be fairly mature these days
<4> only thing that ****s about virtualization is memory usage
<1> fredk: I really don't want without it.
<3> Jostein, well, you only run one kernel and such
<0> It's not like in the old days with, like, FreeBSD's jailed root thing. Virtualization has gotten very flexible.
<1> fredk: I can setup a virtual zone and basicly control /everything/. From memory resources right up the cpu utilization.
<0> exactly
<5> does iptables accept wildcards (i.e. "?" "*") or is cidr the only way?
<3> Lion-O, yeah
<3> there's a few different ways of doing it though.
<3> 1) vmware ish obviously
<3> but, thats not really virtualization in that sense.
<6> xen is looking better and better these days
<3> 2) xen/uml, dont they both run a seperate kernel for each user?
<3> or am I misinformed?
<6> yes. in xen's case, its a special kernel compiled with hooks to the native kernel, rather than direct access. makes a lot of the kernel stuff run natively rather than virtually
<3> okay, so its a lil of both
<3> DaveHowe, did you ever look at the likes of openvz or freevps?
<6> fredk: looked, but the last time I looked at them they seemed too immature to do anything useful with
<1> fredk: you can even perform good virtualisation on a single kernel. If your architecture is in order.
<3> DaveHowe, virtuozzo is based on openvz I believe, and virtuozzo is what most of the hosting world uses
<0> It's kind of the other way around.
<0> OpenVZ is a stripped down version of Virtuozzo (some of the toys are taken out, and there's no support from SW-Soft).
<3> Dairenn, well, sure, but same codebase right?
<0> Yup.
<0> Basically, there's no web front end, just the CLI tools.
<0> Which is fine by me.
<3> Dairenn, I might be wrong, but isnt OpenVZ basically virtuozzo without the management tools?
<0> Yeah.
<3> and obviously no support
<0> Well, it has the management tools but they aren't web based.
<0> Like with Virtuozzo.
<7> wamty: there's an extented match called iprange for example you could use.
<3> Dairenn, did you work with virtuozzo?
<3> or openvz for that matter
<0> I plan to once I get my server back in a data center somewhere.
<3> hehe
<6> fredk: iirc (and its been a while since I looked) some bits were removed as propriatory and/or licenced from other IP owners; the replacement bits weren't entirely mature, and the vms were trivial to break out of and gain access to the real os
<6> fredk: but tis possible they have fixed that - as I say, its been a while
<3> DaveHowe, that was which tool?
<6> openvs
<3> openvz?
<6> yeah, sorry. typo :)
<3> okay, yeah, they might have had to remove things that didnt belong to then
<6> trying to watch anime and chat at the same time
<0> That can be challenging.
<6> its fansub not dub, so I have to keep my eyes on it



<3> hehe
<0> Hahaha
<8> hi people I have a small problem with my fedora core 5 :(
<0> Well, logging all the way out and back in again didn't fix this server's ssh issues.
<8> I have a server and is going out on the internet thru a router I can't connect to it from another computer that I have home, but others can connect to it thru putty can anyone help me out, it gives me a messege like network connection refuse :((
<9> cool. my pork steak's almost done
<0> Seasoning?
<9> yep. spicy gates rub
<0> Sounds tasty.
<9> this is a large steak. 1lb :)
<9> sure is
<0> That's pretty hefty.
<3> cappicard, thats not a big steak! :P
<9> it's not big enough for me ;)
<9> but it covers a large plate :D
<3> I guess itll have to do :P
<9> for now
<8> can any one help me out plss :(
<8> ??
<4> AngelDrake: look up something called NAT and portforwarding
<4> AngelDrake: and consult your routers manual
<8> Jostein i have did that port forwarding on 22 and the ip adress that I have from the router but i dont know on witch shell I make the port forwarding, for the server or for the machine witch I am connecting to the server
<4> you dont make the portforwarding anywhere else than on the router that NATs stuff
<4> if that doesnt work, you either got the IP wrong or need to adjust some firewall rules
<3> Jostein, 20.8C outside now
<4> heh
<4> Ill watch this movie, and Ill try to get some sleep
<3> Jostein, pr0n?
<4> Infernal Affairs 3
<3> pr0n...
<4> hongkong thingie I mentioned
<3> asian pr0n :P
<4> haha
<4> more like the best hongkong thriller I have seen in ages
<4> make that trilogy
<3> :)
<10> hmm
<0> Well, the SSH to another server from the b0rked box proves that it's actually the destination server somehow screwing things up.
<0> Wish I knew why.
<3> Hmm, http://www.filecabi.net/video/222muchtequila.html <-- weird stuff
<11> why would hardware be installed for my wlan card and it not have a device to activate
<11> I know I have to be overlooking somethign
<12> windows rulez
<13> aardwolf: piss off
<12> fo shizle
<12> :D
<11> ?
<13> wlfshmn++
<13> networkad: Please read http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html and then come back and ask a smart question. It will greatly lessen the likelihood of your getting a pinecone crammed up your butt.
<11> thank you ka-bar
<3> wlfshmn, http://www.blocket.se/vi/8963117.htm?ca=23_4_s
<14> hehe
<13> fredk: um.... wtf is it?
<3> Ka-bar, microwave
<14> Ka-bar: a microwave ;)
<14> Ka-bar: early 70s model ;)
<14> fredk: I reember when our kitchen stuff used similar design ;)
<7> cancer included, or do you have to pay extra for that?
<3> victor-, cancer free of charge
<14> victor-: You don't get cancer from microwaves. You get internal radiation burns.
<15> errrr?
<16> boils down to cancer
<15> I'm pretty sure radiation can cause cell mutation
<3> hehe
<14> Tamahome: microwave radiation. not gamma ;)
<13> wow
<15> yay! ^^;
<14> all it does it excite your water content, causing little bits of you to buil. with enough exposure, parts get cooked enough to stay damaged ;)


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