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<0> try ubuntu.
<0> why do you want to switch from windows?
<1> It's annoying, slow, keeps crashing, and I was so impressed with firefox and openoffice, that I want to try more open-source programs
<0> okay. i was just curious.
<1> why do you think ubuntu is better?
<1> because it's fewer CDs?
<2> IDFguy-away: I've just installed Ubuntu as a desktop OS I haven't booted back into windows in over a month.
<0> i didnt say it was better.
<0> i just said "try it"
<2> I am however a debian user since 95
<1> D-side, ok.
<1> ok, another question, does ubuntu have multiple users option? like each one has his own desktop and start menu like windows XP?
<3> hahaha I installed debian yesterday, I don't even want to fix my mbr to boot windows
<0> IDFguy-away: thats the nice thing. you can try all of them.
<4> Besides which. Ubuntu is _based_ on Debian, but not the same as it.
<4> IDFguy-away: I have that set up here.
<4> IDFguy-away: the setting's under the Administration menu.
<0> i've got to split. bbl
<1> and one last question. I have an 11GB NTFS drive. I want to keep a windows installation on it. can I install both windows and ubuntu on the same drive?
<2> t95-deb: for my servers yes its the only thing other than the occasional bsd box or commercial unix if I have to buy it to get support from the vendor. That still a big issue. Lotus Notes is bad for that. I had to screw with about 6 different version(s) of Notes 6.5.3 and SuSE & Redhat Linux until I could match a certified version up. Argh talkabout frustrating, considering it just runs on debian with a little help from alien
<5> IDFguy-away: yes
<2> IDFguy-away: depends on what applications you need in Windows. Else you will be fine with 5-6GB for Linux.
<4> IDFguy-away: there's a small problem with that. You have to resize the Windows install so it doesn't take the whole drive. You'll need at LEAST an extra 4Gb for Linux
<4> and I'd suggest at least 5Gb for some headroom
<3> cool I was a redhat user (8 years ago) but tried debian, and I don't want to go back to redhat
<1> Viking667. and extra 4GB before or after the install?
<4> before. i.e. 4GB to install onto, keep aside another 512MB for swap partition.
<5> IDFguy-away: split the drive evenly, you'll have both operating systems. You won't have a lot of room for apps/data though.
<3> wwbbs, I just messed my X yesterday (uninstalled it hahaha) and dselect does not recognise my debian dvds
<1> siglite. I have a 100G HD. currently it's split into three drives: 10G (windows), 10G (docs) and 80G (movies, games and music). what would you advise to change?
<4> t95-deb: I never never NEVER use dselect. Blech.
<2> t95-deb: ***uming the dvd's are still mountable, vi /etc/apt/sources.list and look for typos.
<4> t95-deb: I'd use synaptic, maybe aptitude.
<4> aptitude works under console, good for when X has died
<5> IDFguy-away: I'd resize the movies/games/music partition and carve out 10G for ubuntu. But that's me.
<2> t95-deb: Viking667 is right aptitude is the ****.
<4> don't forget the swap space.
<4> wwbbs: err, what?
<1> someone told me Linux works better with FAT32, should I change that?
<4> Aptitude's not ****.
<3> hahahahah so?
<2> No It's Very Good!
<4> IDFguy-away: a Fat32 partition can be written safely by Linux, but NTFS can't without using captiveFS
<2> Much more refined and easier to use than dselect.
<4> wwbbs: thank you. State that next time, huh?
<3> wwbbs, Viking667: The only thing I know, dselect just ****s
<1> Viking667. thanks
<4> It does in a pinch, but I prefer aptitude.
<3> heheh
<1> ooh, before I forget, what IRC client are you guys using? does mIRC works with Linux?
<2> Viking667: Bad Canadian Slang sorry Eh!...
<4> err, no. Though it might work under wine. I'd use xchat if you're in X
<2> IDFguy-away: check out Gaim you may want it for windows as well.
<5> IDFguy-away: there are about ten billion irc clients for linux. go find one.
<1> k. thanks. sorry for the trouble
<4> I currently use a console client called irssi, and I found that though I could USE gaim for irc, I didn't like it as much as irssi or xchat
<3> Im gonna try aptitude
<4> bah. He disappears.
<3> I'm using ircII heh, I had my custom made ircII, but I stored it on a zip disk, and sold the drive like 6 years ago... crap
<4> m.
<4> I did use epic4 for a while, paired it up with Light. Was pretty good for me, except for the insane scripting language. Now I'm on irssi, I don't mind it so much
<2> t95-deb: that's all I used to use on my servers before the internet got all anal and such. I had a bbs going in the 90's that had access to the net. Lots of people learned to use IRC with the console.
<3> cool, I can still remember BBS, that was some time ago :(
<4> I can still remember SearchLight. Gotta be one of the best for glamour.
<3> Viking667: gotta try that irssi
<2> t95-deb: yup first on the block to go 9600.
<3> wwbbs: hahah I remember when I got my first modem, I was dialing a bbs on canada (long distance) obviously, from friends house, not mine
<3> in canda hehe typo
<2> Wackos and Wierdos BBS, +1(705)6798383 (no longer in service) Porn & Warez 84 (Amiga 500) to 98 (486 DX2 66Mhz 2 500Mb SCSI Drives and 6 Disk CD Changer)
<3> wwbbs: now I know what wwbbs stands for heheh
<6> god, whats with japan and their 500km/h+ trains? heh
<2> I used to dial one up in New York, at 38 cents a freaking minute 1500$ phone bills.
<3> hahahahah
<3> nah, that's why I was ALWAYS shoing it to friends, and dial from their place
<3> damn keboard
<7> fridays always ****.
<2> Ya the best system I used was Maximus BBS, stupid strange programming language called REXX. But that's what got me into everything else. I believe that REXX was ripped from OS/2 Warp as that was were the BBS was ported from. The Company never did manage to pump out a linux version. Does anyone remember Baron Realms Elite?
<3> I had one bbs software (never used it anyway) hahaha Wildcat (something like that) BBS
<2> Going have to break out the old Telex and Acid draw... hehehe...
<3> hehehe
<3> brb...
<8> wwbbs: I'm sure they did have a Leenooks version
<8> wwbbs: Maximum CBCS was insanely popular here. It was/is free, and was designed by a bloke somewhere in Ontario.
<8> Plus, Rexx is neither strange nor stupid.
<4> ... just weird to get used to. Especially ARexx
<9> what's the url for the channel funny stats
<9> I lost it
<2> Nanuq: I loved it...
<9> ?
<2> Nanuq: Rexx was sure strange to me at the time. My BBS was so very customized I hadn't been able to build anything like it before using other tools.
<8> wwbbs: my favourite was C-Net for the Amiga
<2> Believe it or not actually paid the registration fee's for my bulletin board. And most of the games....
<2> Nanuq: Did the make anything else haha...
<2> Wish the interface to my Norstar's and Cisco's were as easy as they were to configure..
<2> Maximum and Rexx that is.....
<10> ha ha ha
<10> Maximus was a bloated bbs.. Rexx.. hmmm, too little too late?
<11> Lion-O: happen to know the irc-protocol RAW command for /NOTIFY +- ?
<4> maximus.... never saw much of that one. Never had many Amiga BBSs down here.
<10> hmmm.... Maximus was programmed using rexx? hmmm, I'm inclined to question that
<10> quite heavily :P
<10> Jostein: no
<11> Lion-O: I will have to google that tomorrow then
<11> gah
<10> Jostein: like I said; I'm utilizing an IRC api for now so the common things are taken care of me for me.
<7> hey Jostein
<7> Lion-O, Viking667
<11> hey Cynic
<8> Viking667: Maximus wasn't Amiga
<8> Viking667: DOS and OS/2
<10> Jostein: so I only have to override certain events
<11> OS/2 & Amiga had Rexx :P
<11> Lion-O: ah
<11> Lion-O: Well. I like making tusff, so ... I wanted to write the whole thing from scratch
<8> Lion-O: I'm thinking, btw, that the OS/2 version was, but the DOS version wasn't.
<8> Lion-O: as it wasn't available on that platform. duh.
<10> Jostein: aye.. My java-fu isn't big enough for that, I do plan to eventually outgrow the bot thingie and goto server usage.
<12> only time I've ever used OS/2 it was a SWIFT thingie
<12> the computer was used about once a month or something like that
<12> you swept a card, it connected to a DB, authenticated and updated codes
<12> then you waited untill the next time you swept the card
<12> all the machine ever did
<11> heh
<12> heya Jostein
<12> what are you doing up?
<11> hey
<11> K_F: just sort-of finished that framework I was talking about
<12> hehe
<12> job tomorrow?
<11> K_F: now rewritten to be more sane and even more clean :P
<11> yeah
<12> get to bed
<11> so.. I seriously intented to do so now
<11> until you said
<11> "hey" :P
<11> so... Im off!
<12> g'night
<9> Lion-O
<13> "So, tell the winner what he's won, Karen!"
<13> My. Quiet day today. All the stupid people away trying to breed?
<14> Unfortunately the laws of Thermohumancoupling Dynamics state that the stupid ones are more successful at breeding than others.
<13> CeruleanD: Not after we X-Ray their genitals ...
<14> Har, we can only hope that that procedure becomes more popular.
<12> CeruleanD: I thought that was the law of hot sluts not using protection?
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