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<0> Tron: NFI
<1> There are prohects documenting precisely how to put a C=64 onto a LAN.
<1> projects even.
<0> well.. in the US the police had troubles examinging some suspects computer
<0> they evidently couldnt search site he had visited, since he didn't use IE
<1> Duh.
<0> so their standard tools didn't do the job
<1> http://www.dunkels.com/adam/tfe/hardware.html <-- how to network your C=64
<1> SO what you'ld do is bung it on a network and copy all the data to somewhere you can read it at your leisure. It's not ****ing rocvket science.
<0> I still think that it should be possible to read the disks somehow
<0> but maybe Im remembering wrong. Maybe it was AmigaFS that was supported in the Linux kernel
<0> a space-efficient, but crappy FS :P
<1> http://www.kahlin.net/daniel/over5/
<1> Jostein: AFFS isn't a bad filesystem, really.
<1> Unless you're referring to OFS (Old or Original FileSyetem?)



<0> dude. have you ever tried listing a directory of a fragmented disk with that FS?
<1> Amiga Fast FileSystem was rather nifty for various reasons I can't quite remember.
<0> it FS-tables were not reserved, and thus spread all over the place
<1> Jostein: Yes I remember the grinding with great sentimentality. :)
<0> so, to get a directory listing you have to read random fragmented sectors from the entire disk. more fragmentation, more searching
<0> slooooooow
<1> Jostein: Musical. ;)
<0> however, that design-choice made that "720kb" disks would fit 960kb
<0> so... highly space efficient
<1> Even the Amiga EMulators today emulate the floppy access noise when you're loading a game or demo :)
<0> lol
<1> "Thhhrrrrrrrrp TCK TCK TCK thrrrp thrrrrp TCK TCK TCK Thrrrp TCK TCK TCK...."
<2> Which codec needed for audio? In ubuntu 6.06?
<1> Cl***ic: You need the codec.
<0> Cl***ic: the codec for the format you are trying to play?
<2> .dat .mpg
<1> mpg?
<0> .dat = vcd MPG
<1> Ah mpeg.
<2> I have problem in vedio files , no audio
<2> Tron, In vedio files , No audio comes, audio songs work.
<1> Cl***ic: COuld it be that you haven't set the volume up on your sound card? Or you haven't un-muted the sound?
<1> AH okay then. Tried turning up the volume on the player?
<2> All are full.
<1> Cl***ic: WHich program are you using to play video?
<2> gxine
<3> Tron: hrm
<1> Nanuq: Hrm?
<0> gxine should play MPGs fine. My guess your sound setup aint good
<3> Tron: the C64 emulators should simulate the sound of a 1541 formatting a disk ;)
<0> does audio work in any other apps?
<2> Jostein, Mp3 Songs works fine
<2> Yes.
<1> Nanuq: Heheh
<0> Cl***ic: odd. try mplayer instead :P
<1> Nanuq: Those old 1541's were basically headless 6502-based computers themselves :)
<0> heheh
<2> lol
<2> Jostein, I need codec, can you tellme which codec for audio? I installed w32codec
<0> MPGs use mpeg1 layer 2 iirc
<3> Tron: dude, I know :P
<0> which SHOULD be handled by gxine
<2> vedio works fine, only audio problem.
<1> Nanuq: I know you know - but why should that stop me from talking about it with you? :)
<0> Cl***ic: dont look at me. I run a headless BSD box with no audio, and the rest of my setup is windows
<3> Tron: well I was referring to the sound, not the innards
<3> Tron: so I'm tired and my temper is short. :P
<2> :/
<0> Nanuq: ggggggggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrinddddddddddddd grrrrrrrinddd grind grind
<3> and I'm still working on a cold
<3> Jostein: nono, the "whirrr.. RATATATATATAT.. chunk.. chunk.. chunk.. chunk.."
<2> Tron ?
<0> Nanuq: been a long time. cant remember accurately
<3> Jostein: it was a machine gun like sound
<0> Nanuq: I just remember diskdrives were super-quick compared to tapes :P
<0> so WTH cared about noise?
<3> Jostein: see, the drive was too stupid to know where track zero was, so it did a full seek and then some
<0> heh
<3> Jostein: which lead to eventual alignment problems :P
<0> yup
<3> Jostein: I always wanted a 1581, though. nice drive, that.



<0> hmm... dont recall which drive I had
<3> note to self: buy one on ebay and travel to the past.
<2> Tron, you dont know?
<3> Jostein: 1541? 1541-II? 1571?
<3> Cl***ic: what do you need?
<0> Nanuq: 1541-II sounds about right
<2> Nanuq I already told, CODEC for audio.
<3> Jostein: newer looking beat, separate psu?
<0> Nanuq: I honestly cant recall. been ages since I had the C64
<0> might have been a plain 1541 too. who knows
<0> ultimate hackers tool :D
<3> er
<3> s/beat/beast/
<3> Jostein: main this is the PSU
<4> re Eric
<3> re Funnelman
<0> re nasty nasty linker
<4> hah
<3> Jostein: You know the most disturbing bit is that the funnel contents don't stay in the funnel.
<0> Nanuq: I do not want to know
<0> OH!
<0> the PS3 is delayed -again-
<3> feh Sony
<0> On MSN: "you there?" (2 hours later) "yeah I am now.". (instant reply) "so how are we doing <this & this>?"
<0> and then she's gone again
<2> Nanuq: here?
<2> Which qt package i needed for vypress chat? i got error of qt while ./configure vypress chat
<5> did anybody experience a remnant looping sound on an EMU10K1 card after playing some pcm stream? And the period of the loop halves when you turn off (or on, don't remember) the Tone p***through switch
<6> Cl***ic: rtfm, thats documented.
<3> hmm
<0> Cl***ic: arent you running ubuntu?
<0> Cl***ic: shouldnt you just use apt-get ?
<3> hey Lion-O
<5> sounds like an electric motor; first I thought some capacitor went dead on my MOBO. I'm running recent alsa setup
<0> ey Lion-O
<2> Jostein: I installed already qt but it gives that qt not installed
<0> Cl***ic: there IS a difference between qt and qt-devel
<0> Cl***ic: if you are compiling from source (for some odd, useless reason), you will need the devel packages as well
<0> Cl***ic: but are you SURE there isnt any Vypres char packages you can just snarf from the universe-repos?
<2> checking correct functioning of Qt installation... failure <-= error Jostein
<0> Cl***ic: if you indeed are going to compile stuff, I suggest you get some clue.
<0> Cl***ic: like learning how to add params to ./configure
<0> WTH. he aint listening to anything I say anyway
<6> first docs, second the --help parameter for configure
<1> Lion-O: Greets
<6> Tron: eya! how is you?
<2> Lion-O: I need to rename qt3 to qt?
<6> Cl***ic: no.
<2> Lion-O: How can i see that qt is installted or not.
<1> Lion-O: Yeah fine. Yerself?
<6> Cl***ic: using your package manager (depending on your distribution).
<6> Tron: very well, thanks. In contrary to the forecast the weather is great and today I don't have that much to do so... 8)
<1> Cl***ic: You have already been told. If you are compiling a program which needs the QT librbaries, this means you need to install the DEVELOPMENT qt packages as well as the QT libs themselves.
<2> Lion-O: In package its shows qt is installed, and vypress chat says and dev packages also installed
<2> vypress says: not installed
<6> Cl***ic: you're an idiot. an external program can't determine if the dev packages are installed.
<1> Cl***ic: In order to compile a program which needs, say, the QT libs, you need the qt-dev packages installed. These provide the necessary HEADER files the program needs in order to compile, so that it knows how to talk to the QT libraries.
<6> besides; if you look at the errors then its quite on the contrary; the software tells you they're NOT installed.
<6> ffs, pay attention to what has been said for over an hour ago.
<1> Cl***ic: Forget trying to compile. You are not competent enough to eb able to compile HelloWorld.c, let alone a qt-using program.
<6> wh0000.
<6> Tron: good luck!
<7> yeay sent home early today
<1> Bah.
<6> uh oh
<1> Lion-O: The guy was interested in the house, but his wife wasn't, because our toilet is downstairs. WTF.
<6> Tron: blech... time to grab the clue-by-fout


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