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<0> DaveHowe: because people who do business software wants to make money :P
<1> http://www.sql-ledger.org/ <-- this one doesn't say "for personal use" on it :)
<2> perhaps also the 'for personal use only' thing is meant as a lawsuit deflector? ;)
<1> looks full featured too
<1> does ***emblies and stuff
<3> *shrugs* Open source software has come a long way. A couple of years ago I thought I would *never* be able to live without visio and mindjet's mindmapper
<3> now I use freemind and dia almost exclusively
<0> szymon: there's alternatives to visio? decent alternatives?
<3> a couple of years ago, I *needed* MS office to do my job
<1> never could get my head around freemind
<4> szymon: that maybe true but there are some issues which simply never get touched by it.
<3> now openoffice is an invisible change
<5> szymon: thank you for the Freemind hint
<3> Jostein: tried using Dia?
<1> depends on what you want to do with visio, Jostein
<3> Freemind is great. And actively being developed.



<0> szymon: nope. but Ive heard people say that there really isnt any alternatives
<5> Dia is nice
<0> szymon: for UML, network mapping and so on
<3> Jostein: try Dia, make your own decision
<0> Ill remember the name. or such my logs :P
<0> search my logs
<1> dia is good for some things - does a pretty network diagram type thing for example
<2> Jostein, dictation software? ;)
<0> oh well.. Right now I got beer, and I want that more than any visio-ish kind of things :P
<0> Liandrin: heh
<6> Never mind, you seem pretty busy.
<1> http://www.networknotepad.com/download.html <-- this is nice, but windoze only
<7> dang it. i seem to be having ridiculously slow browser speeds, but pretty much everything else works fine..
<7> someone mentioned a dns issue - but i'm not sure how to resolve it.
<0> ok. ever since I got that new drive... my machine has been seriously flaky
<7> any ideas?
<0> damn. And I wanted to spend that money on whisky :P
<7> heh
<8> vIkSiT: Put a sniffer between your PC and your DNS server and monitor queries?
<7> jgaddis, i don't *know* what my dns server is. I just put 192.168.0.1 into resolve.conf..
<8> vIkSiT: You don't get DNS info from DHCP?
<7> oh. I must be
<0> vIkSiT: or you have secretly discovered universal DNS :P
<7> hahaha, i wish
<7> gah. i dont seem to be able to find it
<0> vIkSiT: 192.168.0.1 sounds awfully routerish
<7> hmm, doing a tracerout to google gives me 9 or 8 ms max
<0> vIkSiT: checked what the router gets?
<7> Jostein, no. how would i check that?
<0> vIkSiT: http://192.168.0.1 ?
<7> oh, you mean router settings heh
<7> but, it would be automatic right?
<7> yes, it is indeed
<7> "Get Automatically From ISP"
<0> vIkSiT: and you have no way of polling that info?
<0> thats a crap router you got :P
<8> Is the #ipsec VPN still around?
<7> none that i can think of. Jostein, yeah tell me about it - its a freakin netgear and i got hit by that sploit not 48 hours ago
<0> I'll klet you know if I have a crap router as soon as I get DSL working :P
<7> ah got it.
<7> hmm. 16ms times from dns server
<7> but browser timeouts all over
<7> weird
<0> indeed
<2> Jostein, PieTTY?
<0> Liandrin: taiwanese fork of PuTTY
<0> Liandrin: added better unicode support + a dozen other features
<7> hmm. what other possibilties might you hazard, for this rather weird error?
<7> s/error/problem
<7> dns seems ok. IRC/IM works fine.
<2> Jostein, ah
<0> vIkSiT: stop emule & BT? :P
<9> muahahah Hellraiser on sci fi
<2> Jostein, linkie?
<7> Jostein, haha.. i'm not even running those!
<0> Liandrin: a lot of nice features. like clickable links, removable widgets, and as I discovered just now: cutting and pasting in irrsi removes all the unnec***ary spaces and linebreaks :)
<0> Liandrin: first on google
<0> Liandrin: second on google is DL link
<10> Goodnight everyone. Tomorrow is another crappy tech. support workday



<9> Migrating to filechooser from fileselection is gonna be fun
<7> weird. ok, so what should be the ideal millisecond time to your dns server?
<11> 0ms
<7> arcanist, ok, rephrasing - what should it be, normaly?
<0> vIkSiT: 500ms, but Im on GPRS :P
<11> i'm 17ms to mine
<7> when i traceroute my dns server i get about 13 hops!
<11> and 6ms to my other dns
<8> vIkSiT: Heh, that could be part of the issue.
<7> each progressing from 2 ms to about 26ms
<7> jgaddis, exactly. is there any way to fix this? (I dont know much about US/East coast dns servers yet)
<1> new http://www.av-comparatives.org/ is out I see
<7> as in, anywhere else, i'd've switched to another DNS server :) BUT I can't even freakin google those IPs right now
<2> Jostein, I've thought about hacking on the PuTTY codebase in the past, but it's awful scary
<0> Liandrin: well... indeed
<7> hmm. anyone around here have ideas about comcast DNS in CT/MA?
<7> Liandrin, weren't you around the area?
<0> Liandrin: evidently someone wasnt happy with PuTTY's euro/us-centric behavior and made a version for the asian users. and added lots of cool stuff when they first started hacking
<0> Liandrin: I like it
<2> vIkSiT, VA, ending 6 years ago
<8> vIkSiT: Ideally, your ISP would be providing you (via DHCP) with the IP addresses of the closest (network-wise) DNS servers.
<2> Jostein, added lots of fluff, you mean ;)
<2> vIkSiT, Comcast cable wasn't available where I was then
<7> Liandrin, aah. well, I remember someone here being around CT.. forget who it is
<7> jgaddis, *ideally* ..
<8> vIkSiT: OxD, IIRC.
<7> jgaddis, AAh right.
<12> jum
<0> Liandrin: hey. Its still nowhere near bloated. and I use the features :P
<7> Jostein, removable widgets? seriously?
<7> :)
<0> I like having -nothing- but irssi
<2> Jostein, I was more meaning things like transparency, but I never meant to imply that -all- the added features were superfluous
<0> no window borders, no nothing
<0> Liandrin: transparancy and so on.. I have stuff for that allready, -if- I ever use it
<5> xgl?
<0> K_F: vitrite. windows hack
<0> K_F: I run windows, remember? :P
<5> right..
<7> heh if only one could survive without windows
<0> I like Windows for a desktop OS
<7> all my problems stem from having to use code written in visual studio
<0> it's OK. but it's pretty easy to **** up for morons. granted
<5> vIkSiT: I only use Qt for GUI stuff, kate & vim for the C++ of it
<5> then again I try to make as much as possible using a web based interface
<0> no kdevelop for you? :P
<5> nope
<0> well... as far as developing goes, I usually schtick to VS2005
<7> K_F, it isnt about using MFC or QT. If you've got a complex project, with code written by others - you NEED an IDE to figure out cl*** members, function params et al
<7> and as for VS - it IS pretty technlogicaly advanced as compared to anything on linux
<2> DaveHowe, er, he says how
<2> DaveHowe, starting at "In 1977, ..."
<7> thats awesome.
<0> it requires Quicktime, and Im not DLing that on gprs :P
<7> it would be very nice to control machines (moving bots for example)
<7> as in, touch sensitive controls to motors.
<7> i bet if the intensity is increased, and a 3d matrix of those LEDs - you could hover your hands around it to do minority-report kind of stuff
<2> vIkSiT, the video demonstrates waving a hand over, instead of contacting
<1> didn't get a voiceover when I streamed it - I will try downloading it first :)
<2> there's a voiceover?
<7> Liandrin, yes it does - but if you noticed, input was lower in intensity..
<2> vIkSiT, hence how you distinguish the two conditions
<2> vIkSiT, in all cases, "hand" registered higher than "empty space"
<1> dunno. but I ***umed that was what you meant - saying that an led can be a photodiode doesn't help without some discussion of how you extract that data from it
<2> vIkSiT, whether the LEDs were touched or hoevered
<7> hmm, i guess you could do that as well.
<2> *hovered
<2> DaveHowe, oh, I meant the text on the page
<2> DaveHowe, you understand what a photodiode does, right?


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