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<0> DaveHowe: because people who do business software wants to make money :P <1> http://www.sql-ledger.org/ <-- this one doesn't say "for personal use" on it :) <2> perhaps also the 'for personal use only' thing is meant as a lawsuit deflector? ;) <1> looks full featured too <1> does ***emblies and stuff <3> *shrugs* Open source software has come a long way. A couple of years ago I thought I would *never* be able to live without visio and mindjet's mindmapper <3> now I use freemind and dia almost exclusively <0> szymon: there's alternatives to visio? decent alternatives? <3> a couple of years ago, I *needed* MS office to do my job <1> never could get my head around freemind <4> szymon: that maybe true but there are some issues which simply never get touched by it. <3> now openoffice is an invisible change <5> szymon: thank you for the Freemind hint <3> Jostein: tried using Dia? <1> depends on what you want to do with visio, Jostein <3> Freemind is great. And actively being developed.
<0> szymon: nope. but Ive heard people say that there really isnt any alternatives <5> Dia is nice <0> szymon: for UML, network mapping and so on <3> Jostein: try Dia, make your own decision <0> Ill remember the name. or such my logs :P <0> search my logs <1> dia is good for some things - does a pretty network diagram type thing for example <2> Jostein, dictation software? ;) <0> oh well.. Right now I got beer, and I want that more than any visio-ish kind of things :P <0> Liandrin: heh <6> Never mind, you seem pretty busy. <1> http://www.networknotepad.com/download.html <-- this is nice, but windoze only <7> dang it. i seem to be having ridiculously slow browser speeds, but pretty much everything else works fine.. <7> someone mentioned a dns issue - but i'm not sure how to resolve it. <0> ok. ever since I got that new drive... my machine has been seriously flaky <7> any ideas? <0> damn. And I wanted to spend that money on whisky :P <7> heh <8> vIkSiT: Put a sniffer between your PC and your DNS server and monitor queries? <7> jgaddis, i don't *know* what my dns server is. I just put 192.168.0.1 into resolve.conf.. <8> vIkSiT: You don't get DNS info from DHCP? <7> oh. I must be <0> vIkSiT: or you have secretly discovered universal DNS :P <7> hahaha, i wish <7> gah. i dont seem to be able to find it <0> vIkSiT: 192.168.0.1 sounds awfully routerish <7> hmm, doing a tracerout to google gives me 9 or 8 ms max <0> vIkSiT: checked what the router gets? <7> Jostein, no. how would i check that? <0> vIkSiT: http://192.168.0.1 ? <7> oh, you mean router settings heh <7> but, it would be automatic right? <7> yes, it is indeed <7> "Get Automatically From ISP" <0> vIkSiT: and you have no way of polling that info? <0> thats a crap router you got :P <8> Is the #ipsec VPN still around? <7> none that i can think of. Jostein, yeah tell me about it - its a freakin netgear and i got hit by that sploit not 48 hours ago <0> I'll klet you know if I have a crap router as soon as I get DSL working :P <7> ah got it. <7> hmm. 16ms times from dns server <7> but browser timeouts all over <7> weird <0> indeed <2> Jostein, PieTTY? <0> Liandrin: taiwanese fork of PuTTY <0> Liandrin: added better unicode support + a dozen other features <7> hmm. what other possibilties might you hazard, for this rather weird error? <7> s/error/problem <7> dns seems ok. IRC/IM works fine. <2> Jostein, ah <0> vIkSiT: stop emule & BT? :P <9> muahahah Hellraiser on sci fi <2> Jostein, linkie? <7> Jostein, haha.. i'm not even running those! <0> Liandrin: a lot of nice features. like clickable links, removable widgets, and as I discovered just now: cutting and pasting in irrsi removes all the unnec***ary spaces and linebreaks :) <0> Liandrin: first on google <0> Liandrin: second on google is DL link <10> Goodnight everyone. Tomorrow is another crappy tech. support workday
<9> Migrating to filechooser from fileselection is gonna be fun <7> weird. ok, so what should be the ideal millisecond time to your dns server? <11> 0ms <7> arcanist, ok, rephrasing - what should it be, normaly? <0> vIkSiT: 500ms, but Im on GPRS :P <11> i'm 17ms to mine <7> when i traceroute my dns server i get about 13 hops! <11> and 6ms to my other dns <8> vIkSiT: Heh, that could be part of the issue. <7> each progressing from 2 ms to about 26ms <7> jgaddis, exactly. is there any way to fix this? (I dont know much about US/East coast dns servers yet) <1> new http://www.av-comparatives.org/ is out I see <7> as in, anywhere else, i'd've switched to another DNS server :) BUT I can't even freakin google those IPs right now <2> Jostein, I've thought about hacking on the PuTTY codebase in the past, but it's awful scary <0> Liandrin: well... indeed <7> hmm. anyone around here have ideas about comcast DNS in CT/MA? <7> Liandrin, weren't you around the area? <0> Liandrin: evidently someone wasnt happy with PuTTY's euro/us-centric behavior and made a version for the asian users. and added lots of cool stuff when they first started hacking <0> Liandrin: I like it <2> vIkSiT, VA, ending 6 years ago <8> vIkSiT: Ideally, your ISP would be providing you (via DHCP) with the IP addresses of the closest (network-wise) DNS servers. <2> Jostein, added lots of fluff, you mean ;) <2> vIkSiT, Comcast cable wasn't available where I was then <7> Liandrin, aah. well, I remember someone here being around CT.. forget who it is <7> jgaddis, *ideally* .. <8> vIkSiT: OxD, IIRC. <7> jgaddis, AAh right. <12> jum <0> Liandrin: hey. Its still nowhere near bloated. and I use the features :P <7> Jostein, removable widgets? seriously? <7> :) <0> I like having -nothing- but irssi <2> Jostein, I was more meaning things like transparency, but I never meant to imply that -all- the added features were superfluous <0> no window borders, no nothing <0> Liandrin: transparancy and so on.. I have stuff for that allready, -if- I ever use it <5> xgl? <0> K_F: vitrite. windows hack <0> K_F: I run windows, remember? :P <5> right.. <7> heh if only one could survive without windows <0> I like Windows for a desktop OS <7> all my problems stem from having to use code written in visual studio <0> it's OK. but it's pretty easy to **** up for morons. granted <5> vIkSiT: I only use Qt for GUI stuff, kate & vim for the C++ of it <5> then again I try to make as much as possible using a web based interface <0> no kdevelop for you? :P <5> nope <0> well... as far as developing goes, I usually schtick to VS2005 <7> K_F, it isnt about using MFC or QT. If you've got a complex project, with code written by others - you NEED an IDE to figure out cl*** members, function params et al <7> and as for VS - it IS pretty technlogicaly advanced as compared to anything on linux <2> DaveHowe, er, he says how <2> DaveHowe, starting at "In 1977, ..." <7> thats awesome. <0> it requires Quicktime, and Im not DLing that on gprs :P <7> it would be very nice to control machines (moving bots for example) <7> as in, touch sensitive controls to motors. <7> i bet if the intensity is increased, and a 3d matrix of those LEDs - you could hover your hands around it to do minority-report kind of stuff <2> vIkSiT, the video demonstrates waving a hand over, instead of contacting <1> didn't get a voiceover when I streamed it - I will try downloading it first :) <2> there's a voiceover? <7> Liandrin, yes it does - but if you noticed, input was lower in intensity.. <2> vIkSiT, hence how you distinguish the two conditions <2> vIkSiT, in all cases, "hand" registered higher than "empty space" <1> dunno. but I ***umed that was what you meant - saying that an led can be a photodiode doesn't help without some discussion of how you extract that data from it <2> vIkSiT, whether the LEDs were touched or hoevered <7> hmm, i guess you could do that as well. <2> *hovered <2> DaveHowe, oh, I meant the text on the page <2> DaveHowe, you understand what a photodiode does, right?
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