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<0> hi cheeksy, D-side
<1> Hi OldMonk
<0> Lion-O:
<1> OldMonk: ? ! ;-)
<0> i forgot to backspace, sue me :)
<2> OldMonk: I don't think your net worth is high enough
<3> On est en finale! Allez les bleus!
<3> hmmmm
<2> cheeksy: English ;)
<4> http://www.abbeyrd.org/sounds/english.wav
<3> welshy: it is! :-p
<2> yeah. what he said. ;)
<2> cheeksy: And you call yourself a teacher! ;)
<5> cheeksy: docfu is drunk and horny again. I think he wants to talk to you
<6> you should let him call you, and record it.



<6> that would be intarweb gold.
<6> afk. getting f'ed in the mouth by the dentist.
<3> i lag
<7> gay gay gay giddily gay....
<2> ok.. so that change did absolutley nothing..
<0> i think i'll ban him for a week or so, that'll fix it.
<3> TeKaha
<3> erm
<3> TenBaseT: he should have done it last night
<3> when i was hawling for france
<3> very wasted
<3> :o)
<3> now i am going to bed
<3> :o)
<3> SOBBER
<4> cheeksy: wrong channel. You want #****soccer
<3> ouch
<3> i didnt talk about ****ing
<8> although the proper name is footbal
<3> i was talking bout TALKING
<8> football even
<3> night night addicts perverts and morons
<3> :o)
<8> because you know..it's a ball that you kick with your foot
<4> lastman: #****soccer
<0> is cheeksy drunk too?
<8> unlike an ovaloid inflated pig skin that you throw with your hand :)
<1> OldMonk: nfi. and for the record; I agree with your plans regarding docfu.
<9> ah, that's better
<1> no need to start **** like that with the sheer intention of provoking a chanop.
<9> hm, topic sync please
<8> what tool can I use to print low-level debug information about a running process ?
<8> ie. lower than strace/truss
<0> lastman: strace/truss are pretty low level when you consider all the options they have
<9> lastman: what kind of information then?
<1> amazing, last time I checked truss didn't exist on Linux but even then its pretty... what OM said :P
<8> well, for example strace won't show the stuff sent over a tcp/ip socket
<1> rofl
<8> * I think *
<0> lastman: you need the user-level net library for that
<0> if that was the only example
<9> lastman: it does. tends to have limits on how much it'll show, but that's configurable
<8> well, that was just an example. my real problem is finding out why php won't load an extension
<0> oh, php
<8> basically it says: can not load /php/ext.so - can not find file but /php/ext.so exists
<0> lastman: ldd /php/ext.so
<1> lastman: manual and logfile(s) help there.
<4> lastman: then it's not in the path that libraries get loaded from
<9> OldMonk: "come back when you're drunk"? :^)
<0> Ka-bar: if php is printing the right path to the file then it is in the path :)
<8> well, the full path is specified
<0> oh...
<4> OldMonk: He's already drunk... that's the problem
<8> here's the full error message
<8> Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/local/etc/php/php4_cybersource.so' - /usr/local/etc/php/php4_cybersource.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory in Unknown on line 0
<0> lastman: what does ldd say?
<8> all that strace shows, before the error message is



<8> open("/usr/local/etc/php/php4_cybersource.so", O_RDONLY) = 3
<8> read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0`\262\7"..., 640) = 640
<0> hmm, looks like an ELF file too, not that i'm an expert on object headers
<4> lastman: is it a valid library?
<8> provided by Cybersource...I think it is
<8> many people use it
<8> ldd shows: /usr/bin/ldd: line 1: /lib/ld-linux.so.2: No such file or directory
<4> well, I've never heard of it...
<0> lastman: there you go then
<4> lastman: uh, what distro is this again?
<0> lastman: btw, what platform are you doing this on?
<1> aye
<8> Debian I think
<1> rofl
<1> suuuure
<4> you *think*???
<8> it is debian
<1> debian with the truss extension :P
<8> :)
<1> I feel like playing bofh ball.
<8> I said truss because that's what I use in BSD
<8> I didn't know it didn't exist under Linux
<0> lastman: so what does truss output say?
<8> what package would install that ld-linux.so.2 file ?
<1> without that your whole distribution wouldn't work.
<0> lastman: you can't run linux without ld-linux.so
<0> well, you can run the kernel and static binaries, but that's about the limit
<9> lastman: you can search here for that: http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages
<4> Hmmm.... pwnage?
<0> dude, if he doesn't have ld-linux.so he has bugger problems than some obscure php extension
<8> all I have this
<0> er, s/bugger/bigger/
<8> . /lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 -> ld-2.3.2.so
<0> oh, 54-bit debian!
<8> 64 bit yes
<0> ****ing hell
<4> OldMonk: no, you had it right the first time. He has bugger problems..
<0> lastman: get the source of the extension and recompile
<0> Ka-bar: hehheh
<8> it has to be compiled for 64 bits, right ?
<0> yes
<0> Falchion
<10> heh
<10> geez I'm bored.
<9> lastman: lesson of the day: when you're downloading binary stuff (which you should try to avoid), be careful exactly *what* you're downloading
<0> Tron
<8> mod: this binary is given as is by Cybersource
<8> no sources available
<0> lastman: you're ****ed then
<8> it's their client api for e-commerce stuff
<0> well, not completely ****ed, but enough to not be able to sit down for a few days at least
<0> lastman: go **** them in turn to get an OSS version of the api
<8> doing that right now :)
<9> lastman: if they're not providing a 64-bit binary, you'd probably need to run things under a 32-bit chroot (or a 32-bit install in the first place)
<0> oh, MS is providing tools to convert between MS and ODF?
<9> OldMonk: oh wow. link?
<0> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/5153350.stm
<11> is ubunty distro stable ?
<12> I've never managed to fiut a horse in it
<13> Darth Evii!
<14> Word :)
<13> How perceptive of you, my very youg apprentice
<13> young too
<15> smsie: *poik*


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