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<0> I'll eat cloned beef.
<1> dogbert2: no need for labels
<2> I'll give that a p***, given a choice, myself for the time beeing
<2> reality_: yeah, but you are a mad scientist
<0> The only difference between a clone and the original animal is that the telomeres are shorter.
<0> That won't effect an animal until it's well beyond the eating age
<2> and what the heck is a telomere?
<0> The end of the DNA
<0> Basically a bunch of unused nucleotides
<0> When DNA replicates, the ends of the DNA get shorter and shorter
<0> It's simply the case because it's a template system. There's no way to replicate the ends
<3> but if you keep re cloning
<3> you'll end up with animals getting m***ive tumors in the womb
<4> asdf
<0> You wouldn't keep recloning.
<3> because the strands will be so tightly compacted
<0> There will always be progenitor animals
<4> anyone alive?
<3> I wonder what would happen if you bred two cloned animals together
<2> malocchio: no, we are a network of turing-complete bots.
<2> TenBaseT: The universe implodes!!!!!1111
<4> wtf are u guys talking about?
<5> how we won hte turning prize
<2> malocchio: what any sensible geek talks about at 2:40am. the cloning of tasty animals
<6> nothing like three firewalls (one in the dsl modem, one in the WRT54G, and Zone Alarm Pro 6.5 on the PC) :)
<0> TenBaseT: You'd get a ***ual clone...meaning there would still be recombination events occurring but the recombination events would logistically be uneffective in producing a different phenotype.
<4> wlfshmn: clone a bottle of bbq sauce if yer doin chickens
<2> I think we are talking specifically about cloning cows. or possibly cloning dogbert2. the line is a bit fuzzy
<7> wlfshmn, lol. makes me think of "I'm not a vegetarian because I like animals: I am a vegetarian because I hate plants!"
<6> ph33r dd-wrt
<4> can anyone tell me why gerald ford took so goddamned long to die?
<2> Liandrin: sounds like a perfectly good reason to me ,)
<4> i jsut got fiber optics installed today
<4> kinda hoping to test the speed on some huge files
<2> good grief, something has to be done about this damn postgres driver..
<4> but i cant seem to find any hosts with a decent enough upstream
<2> Hibernate: /* insert com.compairsoft.domain.PriceListItem */ insert into cas_pricelistitem (retailer_internalkey, displayItem_internalkey, currency_internalkey, businessKey, webKey, description, price, firstSeenAt, lastSeenAt, disabled, internalkey) values (?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?)
<2> gah..
<2> Hibernate: select nextval ('hibernate_sequence')
<2> two damn statements for each insert makes my 50000 line commit slow..
<8> db2, i changed mine to 84
<6> cap...how far does yours reach now?
<8> i was dropping my connection and bouncing up and down
<8> im in the next room and it's quite strong
<8> Mmm... generals tao's chicken and crab rangoon
<6> rotfl...I have my Linksys next to my computer, and a case fan from the side of the PC is blowing air directly over the Linksys (which keeps it cool) :)
<2> I'm in the next room with a reinforced concrete wall on a default firmware and I still have perfect speeds and 75-80% signal strength
<6> wlfshmn...dd-wrt/openwrt/hyper?
<2> linksys firmware
<6> what model of linksys (version #?)
<2> 3.x WRT54G
<6> ooooh, you can run the full version of dd-wrt...lotsa goodies
<6> full ram/flash in that model
<2> I've got a pair of them at that
<6> you should u/g to dd-wrt :)
<2> I havn't had a reason to use a non-standard firmware though
<2> this one works fine and supports what I need it to
<6> wlfshmn...need vlans, more xmit power, ssh, etc? :)
<2> dogbert2: nope
<6> snmpd?
<8> db2, i'm on lappie
<2> not that either, although the one in dads office could maybe use a boost
<8> desktop's still wired
<6> cap...i'm on my desktop...i'll test the laptop tomorrow...should be able to surf from across the street :)
<2> two reflashed WRTs could probably cover that office nicely
<6> how large is the office?
<2> ~120' by 80' or so
<2> not all of those 80 need be covered, by the full 120 do
<6> poof...you'll prolly need dd-wrt, and u/g the antennas to 7dbi (will run ya about $100 for both WRT's)
<8> db2, my v6 is working like a dream
<6> same here...
<2> theo n I have currently uses improved antennas.. not sure about the gain
<6> uptime: 1 day, 21:38
<6> Load Average %0.00, 0.00, 0.00
<6> hmmmm, mebbe I should look at o/c'ing this thing
<2> ah,. yeah, 7db gain
<6> wlfshmn...7dbi's are nice...but linksys should have put in better firmware from the start :)
<2> (not the one at home, the one at the current office)
<2> dogbert2: the place they are moving to is wired for fixed networking, but hasn't been occupied since '93, so likely cat3 grade
<6> wlfshmn...I don't need 7dbi at home, since the xmit power can be adjusted to cover the whole house, front yard, back yard, and most of the street
<2> dogbert2: so a wireless network would save rewiring the damn place
<6> all the wiring will need to be pulled and upgraded (eventually)...
<8> Time: 20:56:50 up 57 min, load average: 0.10, 0.07, 0.01
<8> i'm on channel 6
<8> i may need to change my channel. dropping abit still
<2> dogbert2: I havn't checked yet, but I suspect the place where the office is has a deserted 2.4Ghz band
<2> it's sparesely populated by low-tech companies
<2> and not a residential building within sight
<6> cap...you should see if any other AP's are running in your area...if they are hogging 6, you'll have a problem...also if you have a 2.4Ghz cordless phone, you'll also have problems
<2> using channel 9 currenlty
<9> one of these days, I'm going to go ****ing ballistic on the drive home and just try to ram all the ****ers out of my way in my tiny little 2-door. It's a good thing I don't drive a big truck :P
<2> dogbert2: I have a cordles shere, and a pair at the office, never had a problem due to them
<6> bwhahaha...store manager uses gun to kill one suspect in a take over robbery, and injure the other one
<6> the dead guy will never be a repeat offender
<2> take-over robbery?
<6> wlfhsmn...yeah...come in and try to ***ault everyone...fortunately, the robbers got the short end of the stick
<8> db2, there's about upto 4 wifi routers in my buiding
<8> er-building
<8> i'm changing my channel. brb
<6> cap...what channels are they on?
<6> heh..rule #1 of wireless, change the default channel from 6 to anything else :)
<8> i'm on channel 11.
<2> dogbert2: 11 tends to be default for g equipment here
<6> well, 11 isn't used very often in most places :)
<8> nice. it switched over without dropping my wifi connection
<2> then again, we have 12 and 13 open to us
<6> cap...dd-wrt has some nice features which the standard firmware doesn't
<6> 70 degrees in Brooklyn, NY
<2> dogbert2: sick..
<10> Can't fork pty, bye! ? what this means?
<6> what are you trying to do, ssh into a box?
<10> no
<10> open a port on mi compiuter
<6> better check your resources...put that message into a google search and start reading
<8> db2, yeah. i'm not limited to 10 port forwarding ***ignmentss
<8> and I like the pptp feature
<6> cap...only ports i'm forwarding are 20 (tcp), 21 (tcp), and 80 (tcp)
<8> here's it's 22 and 80
<6> you also have radius authentication as well :)
<8> both to my desktop
<8> i noticed that too
<6> hmmmm, better do 22 on mine as well...gah
<8> i love my centrino thingy on my lappie
<8> no pcmcia card to mess with
<8> my sister has to use a card on her wifi
<6> added 22 in WRT and in Zyxel DSL modem :)
<6> you using mac filtering, cap?
<8> i'm not currently
<8> I should though. i'm currently WEP
<6> you should add it in...another layer of protection, IMO
<8> yeah
<6> did you disable the SSID broadcast?
<8> i didnt yet
<6> you should turn that off also
<6> that way, stuff like netstumbler won't find your AP
<8> ah ok
<8> just did
<6> set up the mac filter as well...
<5> Well if you need to use wpa_supplicant, you will need the SSID broadcast
<6> true, lechat, but I don't cap is using WPA at the moment...just WEP
<5> MAC filtering is wonderful, I had a work lappy that would not work at home until I remembered that I had MAC filter on
<2> lechat_: not true
<2> lechat_: I use wpa_supplicant and disabled broadcast
<2> lechat_: what you need to do is use scan mode 2
<5> oh, the version I have defintely does not work with out the SSID Broadcast
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