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<0> szymon: I like the totally composite UI thingies. like OSX, beryl... and Vista :P
<1> szymon: Good news, HP has an eye on BEA :)
<2> PolarWolf: they've had an eye on BEA for ever :P
<0> I checked it out in february. the beta ****ed and I wiped it
<0> checking it out for real on this new work laptop
<1> szymon: Hehe
<2> PolarWolf: to be honest I hope they don't buy them - BEA are decent competition at the moment, and for JEE to thrive it needs a decent competetive field. HP could really **** them up, which would be short term good for IBM but long term bad for JEE (and all those companies who have invested millions in it)
<2> Jostein: beryl? wtf is beryl?
<1> szymon: Probably, yeah (re: HP ****ing it up)
<0> szymon: its like compiz. using compositing in Xorg
<2> ahhh
<1> I wonder why HP would become active in that field anyway
<0> szymon: I think the idea of compositing in the UI makes perfect sense
<2> PolarWolf: "total play" - something IBM is very good at and HP would like to be good at
<1> Probaly to lift along with the SOA crap
<0> szymon: how much fluff and eyecandy you add on top of that might be a matter of taste though
<2> PolarWolf: one of the biggest things my customers like about IBM is having a single point of contact for the hardware, OS, java virtual machine, application server, everything
<2> anything goes wrong, they have one place to put the blame (although of course it's usually the customer's fault ;-)
<2> Jostein: *nods* I agree
<0> anyway. Imm off for a walk
<3> hello
<4> howdy
<3> any idea what could cause mouse to go berserk after compiling a new kernel?
<3> *grins*
<3> or how to find out if 2.6 kernel is suitable for my machine?
<5> revered: Too zippy?
<3> zippy?
<5> quick
<3> not just quick.. it moved very fast yes, but it also opened lots of things n changed settings
<5> One of the things I remember noticing was the mouse moves faster
<5> heh
<3> it was blazingly fast
<5> Sell your cat
<3> maybe i actually managed to set up my SMP
<3> lol
<6> revered: /usr/src/linux/Documentation/Changes has minimum software required and how to test
<3> thanks whitecap
<4> your mouse is using the wrong driver if its flyin around the screen clicking when you didnt tell it to
<3> NetBandit: i used a walkthrough for the new kernel and it told me some codes, but not what to select or deselect in the menu that came up
<4> revered: hmm
<3> so all i did there was select ntfs support and erm.. SMP and i think drivers for nvidia
<4> i'd double check the x conf file... but im not exactly sure whats goin on.... shouldnt be specifically kernel related
<3> i hate this screen res.
<3> hmm ok
<4> revered: what distro?
<3> Debian
<3> sarge
<3> used an old netinstall
<4> did you do a dist-upgrade or something?
<3> so i think that's why i got an old kernel
<3> no?
<4> revered: 2.2 kernel (lol) ?
<3> not sure lol
<3> it;s a 2005 netinstall
<3> not sure if it was a stable.
<4> that shouldn't be too bad... but i think its 2.4 kernel
<7> last debian netinstall I saw had 2.6 and 2.4 you can select them on boot screen
<7> and the last one i saw was at least a year or two ago
<4> yeah, usually it defaulted to the older kernel, and you had to opt for the 2.6
<7> and it used devfs heh. but that was a while ago
<3> safemode: i tried getting that but failed to burn it properly so i used an old one
<3> i think i'll just try again..
<3> lol
<3> compiling the kernel that is
<3> 93
<3> hmm
<3> i think i skipped the part about using a Working 2.6 config as the base. lol
<3> i dun have a working 2.6 kernel.
<1> So keep tinkering until you do, it's not that hard
<1> It teaches you a lot about what's happening
<3> cool this makes more sense now :)
<4> nice
<8> Greetings and Salutations to everyone!
<9> Cretins and Salivations back atcha.
<4> hail and well met
<10> what do I get, control and experience
<10> although time-consuming
<11> ru__: control and experience? hahah alrighty...
<10> yes, what?
<10> the only problem I see with that is once I've built my "perfect" system, I'll have to start all over again once I need to upgrade software
<11> ru__: Just a minor detail, huh?
<10> I don't know what I should make of the machine I'm installing
<11> ...
<10> if it should just be a server, but the hardware motivates me to use it as a ws too
<11> And you motivate me to AFK.
<12> http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.txt
<12> :/
<10> Dinde: and that affects us how?
<12> my customerZ :|
<12> it affects us thru the hardware implementation of their features
<11> ru__: It affects us like your comment about not knowing what to do with your system does.
<11> Dinde: **** your customers.
<11> Dinde: That made as much sense as a football bat.
<12> <11> Dinde: **** your customers. <-- very smart answer, give me a salary and i'll tell them to getter ****er
<11> Dinde: I wouldn't give you a salary. I only hirer people with a clue.
<11> hire
<12> (nc)
<10> great attitude
<11> ru__: Does it matter if I do or not?
<10> Falchion: I'm not in the mood for arguing tonight, however I have learned from years on IRC that some ops enjoy taking their @ off for a while, then insult some random people, and when some poor newbie replies "yeah, **** you too" they quickly restore the @ and go "WHAT did you say!?"
<10> whatever satisfaction they get from that, I don't know
<11> ru__: You're a putz.
<12> well ru__ just ignore him
<12> ;)
<10> I would if I had some useful discussion to take part in
<12> :]
<12> ahah comparing IQs ****s very mature attitude
<10> I see it all the time
<10> When ops have been around for a few years, they grow tired of whatever topic the channel has, and just starts picking on random people
<10> saying all kinds of rude things to people who only happen to ask a question
<10> then, when someone finally gets tired of the ****ty attitude, they respond, and get kicked
<13> man
<13> Anyone here in seattle?
<10> I guess it's their way of re***uring themselves they still are in control, since no one else really cares
<10> It's not like it matters if one is running a ~200 user channel when one is trying to get laid
<14> don't they
<12> it's actualy harder for me to express myself in english
<10> and then the "I'm the all-knowing op, you're just a luser of no importance" attitude
<12> so i prefer to ignore people that deserve it
<10> and then, we have the most wonderful people of them all: the channel regulars who believe they are friends with the ops, while the ops actually *don't* consider them friends
<15> ru__: and finally we have the idiots who don't like the way the channel is run yet still lack the brainpower to realize that if they don't like it they can leave anytime.
<15> </hint>
<10> Lion-O: you missed most of the discussion
<16> /j #wardriving #wardriving #wardriving #wardriving #wardriving #wardriving #wardriving #wardriving #wardriving #wardriving #wardriving #wardriving #wardriving #wardriving #wardriving #wardriving #wardriving #wardriving #wardriving #wardriving #wardriving #wardriving #wardriving #wardriving #wardriving #wardriving #wardriving #wardriving
<10> or, monologue, rather
<16> /j #wardriving #wardriving #wardriving #wardriving #wardriving #wardriving #wardriving #wardriving #wardriving #wardriving #wardriving #wardriving #wardriving #wardriving #wardriving #wardriving #wardriving #wardriving #wardriving #wardriving #wardriving #wardriving #wardriving #wardriving #wardriving #wardriving #wardriving #wardriving
<10> Lion-O: FYI, I wasn't talking specifically about *this* channel or any op *here*, just describing my general experience of IRC
<15> ru__: *this* channel deals with Linux and really isn't interested in some lusers experience of irc.
<15> Everyone has their experiences and impressions. We've been around 10 years now and I dare say have seen it all.
<10> very well, let's discuss Linux then
<10> I was just asked for disc 2. However, with disc 2 not being in my possession, I decided to abort the installation and try again some other day
<1> ru__: Network installations...tha bomb
<1> No ****ing with disks
<1> Well, that hurts anyway, small hole and all
<17> or at least usually only ****ing with one disk
<10> or, is it the disc that is inserted.
<10> I just hope it won't break
<1> I'mm leave that to your imagination
<1> meh
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