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<0> Jostein: hmm :) <1> Lion-O: on the other hand, I wouldn't be stupid enough to ask such incredibly basic questions in here either :) <2> Steakk: I can say "finical advisor" but he knows that I wouldn't have any power down here near Vonage, it would all take place in WI. <0> DaveHowe: hehe :) <2> Steakk: to much of a bluff <3> Emerson, you give this guy more credit than he deserves...he is a complete moron, but i hear ya <4> Jostein: how about that walk? <1> or indeed, if I were scripting in php - to call a command line tool to pull a file when php has libraries for that <5> i can't find "spoonfeeding" in the FAQs <3> I am just going to call this guy, tell him he breached contract, and to advoid going to court for monies owed, court costs, attorney fees, and punitive damages, he can pay me in full today. <2> Steakk: have your papers ready to go to Court, warn Vonage that they are going to get hit with this in "10 business days" on the 10th day if you are not paid. File the papers, call Vonage let them know. Then get the bastard. Dont give him any warning <3> Emerson, I cant go after vonage <3> this guy does not work for vonage <6> moot: as long as you don't give out straight answers to people too lazy to do their own job, I wouldnt worry too much <3> he is an independent contractor that vonage gives work to <2> Steakk: does Vonage pay him?
<6> moot: just dont sob about being kicked :) <6> K_F: maybe in 20 <2> Steakk: then he works for Vonage, but letting them know you are going after their boxes is the right thing to do. <3> Emerson, he and vonage are the same way that you and I were <5> i was being sarcastic, of course <6> K_F: this episode of kochi ike features nonami maho :D <4> :) <1> Steakk: he works for whomever pays him. you don't get to shift responsibility by saying "he isn't an employee, just a contractor" <3> true, true <2> Steakk: what they will do is file an injunction, you go to the papers. <3> I think I need a cig <1> Emerson: he doens't have to go after boxes - just let vonage know he will be wanting proof from them that they ***igned the jobs *and will be contacting the customers to get their evidence* <5> You'll probably find someone who knows about litigating against vonage on dslreports.com <2> DaveHowe: nod <5> or in the vonage forums <3> bbiaf, cigg break <2> DaveHowe: my wording wasn't exactly clean cut <1> say you are going after boxes, and vonage will be writing lawyergrams to stop you within minutes; say you are going after statements that will be bad pr for them, and they will think of ways to work around the issue without disturbing the sleep of their customers <0> hmm, this remote control program (for Dell RAC cards) needs ms sql server.. I wonder how that will fare on vmware :) <1> Lion-O: which version? <2> DaveHowe: you want them to go lawyer grams.. that's why you give them the 10 day notice of.. hey just want to warn you I'm filing a claim against xx for services rendered. Explain a little about what the circumstances are. then in 10 days, go all out. That gives Vonage 10 days to step on the guy first <0> DaveHowe: euh.. nfi, just popped in the cd. If this is getting too much out of hand I can always resort to ssh access. <1> Lion-O: run sql 2000 regularly on vmware, both on 2K and 2K3 <6> Lion-O: I can tell you <6> Lion-O: If it needs SQL Server 2005, all the GUI tools will be slow <6> Lion-O: but the DB should perform decent enough <1> Emerson: if you threaten their customers, they will be thinking about lawyergrams to you. <0> Jostein: it needs java too :) <6> Lion-O: if it's sql server 2000, any crap machine should do as long as it has ram :) <0> Jostein: hmm :) <0> "MSDE". The database engine. lessee <1> only barely touched 2005 so far, but I know the gui tools ****. are there *any* that aren't a poor cousin of the 2000 tools, with pretensions of being a visual studio plugin? <6> Lion-O: of that is a POS <6> Lion-O: get TOAD <6> seriously <0> Jostein: its what dell ships, and depends on :) <2> DaveHowe: you don't give them any terms 10 days in advance, you just let them know that you end to seek the courts to inforce the contract nothing more <1> MSDE is cut down even further than Personal Edition <6> Lion-O: get TOAD to manage it. MSDE comes with no tools apart from command line tools that expects you to know every in and out of SQL Server :P <1> and there are no admin tools at all with it - whcih ****s <6> Lion-O: which I, excuse me for my presumptions, believe you dont :P <0> Jostein: which suits me just fine. I don't need much control, I only want the dell frontend :) <1> but that said - the enterprise tools from sql svr work perfectly against msde ;) <6> DaveHowe: yeah, but they aint free <6> DaveHowe: TOAD is :) <0> hmm, even has a linux part. Nice. <1> Jostein: technically, no they aren't :) <2> DaveHowe: after you file, you let them know what actions you are taking inside of the legal realm. He has multiple options. 1) He can sue and there upon seek many interesting aves in order to get payment. <1> Jostein: I didn't know TOAD was free though <6> last time I checked the DL was 100% free <6> not as in OSS, but still <1> Jostein: wheras any house with full copies of sql svr around will probably have copies of ent on hand <6> true <6> Lion-O: you can just open the firewall and I will fix it from here :P <6> for the job ok? <1> http://www.quest.com/toad_for_sql_server/ <-- this the one? there seems to be a free trial.... <2> Steakk: find out what the small claims suit in your State is, if the amount owed is larger you are in great shape because you can possibly file criminal chages (intent to defraud, ie not paying someone for servces rendered is theft) <6> DaveHowe: oh well. should be enough to set up the system. <0> Jostein: hehehe <0> now to make sure this critter installs itself to d
<0> 'openmanage management station version 4.5.0 :)" <2> but the part is showing "intent" if you have made multiple contacts to him and he did not pay (phone records) you can seek criminal charges <7> poof <2> Steakk: ther are a few kinks, but you can ask your lawyer what those are <2> hey Nanuq <7> Emerson <7> er, ! <2> Steakk: btw, it's the same was a writing a bad check is teft <2> s/was/way <2> er! <0> oh noes <0> its mr. X. he killed Dr. Black! <8> *sigh* <8> in the library with the candlestick? <0> DaveHowe: I've been wondering. Perhaps in the study with a ballpoint pencil :) <7> ballpoint pencil? <0> Nanuq: those are nasty critters ;) <7> Lion-O: how does that work? <1> Nanuq: I was wondering about that too. I suppose you could use very very finely powdered carbon... <7> DaveHowe: in a suspension <1> Nanuq: naturally <0> Nanuq: no idea. I only ***ume it to be very dangerous ;-) <9> Lion-O: yeah figured I'd give 'em a good home :) <0> Libolt4: hehehe <1> hey, they are grunts. they aren't supposed to have judgement, you point them at targets and yank them back when their ammo runs out... <9> Lion-O: just watch out, they haven't eaten in a while, so if your furniture gets a little leaner, you know why <6> DaveHowe: yeah. point <0> now to see if I can access those remote boxes through my current firewall :) <0> lol, expired session already <0> lol <6> DaveHowe: That is the sweetest part of it <6> DaveHowe: although, a random trojan might not be able to exploit that <0> yeah. Like my latest discovery; remote access cards (racs) with unshielded public IP's :) <6> ooooh <6> do me baby! <0> lol <0> Jostein: I slowly suggested to put some linux router in between and people agreed with my suggestions 8) <1> Jostein: probably not. the firewall was configured to let just one IP in, mine <0> s/slowly/carefully/ <6> DaveHowe: yeah <10> men never take responsibility for their own lives dont they? they are just such weak, it's annoying <1> of course, I *could* have opened a few bouncers; puTTY even allows a full dynamic proxy though the link :) <6> mikaa: now what? <6> mikaa: BF got home from pub drunk? :P <10> haha, no ;) <6> ooh. Now I feel like getting some wine <11> mikaa: Why bother, we get **** if do, we get **** if we don't <12> http://images.apple.com/movies/us/apple/getamac/apple-getamac-security_480x376.mov <0> PolarWolf++ <12> funniest thing I've seen all day <6> PolarWolf: truer words arent spoken often in here <10> well because if you take responsibility for your own live it might get better? <11> I have my moments. <10> all those men are just wining about everything being difficult blablabla <6> while women meta-whine over guys whining, or are directly whining about guys <6> its very much different, but very much the same :P <11> mikaa: That's because what we do *is* difficult. You l***es get all the easy stuff. <10> hey jostein dont be a wise-***! <10> naaah, how is what you do difficult then polarwolf? <6> We have to read minds <11> mikaa: Come hang out at my job for a day :) <10> mm <0> hmm. Java timed out on me.. its not possible! ;) <6> Lion-O: **** happens <6> even to the solaris and sun freaks! <0> now dell doesn't like me no more <11> Funny thing today, I P2V'ed a box today with Powerconvert, and not 5 minutes after I was done I got a call from the Platespin accountmanager on how things were going <0> hehehe <13> I don't believe in coincidence- they're spying on you PolarWolf <11> morgajel: Yeah, the urge to look over my shoulder was tremendous <14> w00t <14> o/~ let it snow, let it snow, let it snow o/~ <6> PolarWolf: just start wearing that "I read your email" t-shirt every time you have a talk with your boss
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