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<0> jlgaddis: 'moo'
<1> reality1: and yes, you provided an opinion as fact stating that "conservative" == "clueless/wrong"
<1> reality1: two separate issues.
<2> siglite: Actually, you first stated that.
<1> reality1: yes, and you concurred.
<3> siglite: that wasn't the way I interprented it, so I'll second reality1 on that.. you said that
<1> I stated it, you concurred.
<1> feel free to scroll back.
<2> siglite: I can't help it if that's often the case when it comes to science.
<4> err, no matter how it is spread, I do believe I would prefere to be vaccinated against anything I might run into that isn't easily treatable
<1> reality1: again, opinion.
<3> reality1: intelligent design is a pain like that..
<2> siglite: No, sorry. But that's fact.
<1> not "fact" or "reality"
<1> reality1: no, it's an opinion.
<3> wlfshmn: I prefer to have my fun with clean girls in the first place..
<2> siglite: Look at the ACP statement. Look at stemcellresearch.org.
<3> wlfshmn: then again the STD rate in norway is rather low..
<5> wlfshmn: and if there was a 1 in 10K chance that you could die from the vaccine, would you want to take the vaccine for something you are unlikely to contract anyway?
<1> reality1: the relationship between conservatism and science is not limited to the neocons, global warming, and the ACP statement, nor stem cells.
<1> reality1: traditional conservatism has very little to do with any of that.
<2> siglite: Where the **** is your traditional conservatism these days?
<3> siglite: seconded, I'm a conservatist
<3> reality1: point my way
<1> reality1: **** If I Know.
<6> how can i see what files from my home folder have someone accessed being in a network environment using NFS and NIS
<6> i want to know that who has made an access to my homefolder in last 24 hours, what files are copied and so on
<4> Ka-bar: I don't know exactly where I would start playing the numbers, no, but at some point the risk weighs over to one side or another
<6> any nfs log
<4> Ka-bar: and 1 in 10k sounds awfully high.
<5> zsakr: try #linuxhelp as this is not a help channel.
<2> siglite: The "conservative" political movement these days is toward social conservatism.
<6> ok
<2> siglite: Which, for all intents and purposes, has been less than forth coming in fact based science.
<5> wlfshmn: I don't know what the actual numbers are. I was just pulling numbers out of the air for the purposes of playing devil's advocate.
<4> Ka-bar: While I don't follow medical science, I have yet to see anything about people actually contracting illnesses from vaccine. I do see people prefering to blame autism and similar on external factors, like vaccines, though
<2> Ka-bar: The only people who could possibly die from the vaccine are those who are allergic to the adjuvant...and frankly, they'd already be dead or already know about the condition from their first series of MMR shots
<5> wlfshmn: The argument goes like this: "Here's a vaccine for a virus you're unlikely to catch. One in 10K people who take the vaccine will die. What's your choice?"
<2> Unlikely to catch?!
<1> reality1: the ****tards in the whitehouse are not representative of conservatives in the united states.
<2> 80% of women 50 and older have HPV.
<2> 80****in'%
<1> reality1: this is what makes your statement untrue.
<5> reality1: references please.
<2> siglite: You tell that to the rest of America who thinks they are...
<1> reality1: you have a skewed view because you're a raging leftie.
<7> anyway
<2> Ka-bar:
<2> http://www.cdc.gov/std/HPV/STDFact-HPV.htm
<7> the first google hit on that american college of pediatricians is a position page against gay marriage
<7> they're a political group, not a medical one
<2> siglite: That would be your opinion.
<1> reality1: which I understand is an opinion, and you clearly do not.
<7> By age 50, at least 80 percent of women will have acquired genital HPV infection. About 6.2 million Americans get a new genital HPV infection each year.
<7> http://www.cdc.gov/std/HPV/STDFact-HPV.htm
<1> reality1: your opinion is fact, but my opinion is just opinion. Gotya.
<3> TenBaseT_: sounds like a good reason to stay away from US
<3> TenBaseT_: then again, the hot chicks are in NO and SE :
<3> :p
<1> TenBaseT_: did you read my analysis of the MCA?
<2> siglite: There is no opinion about the conservatism of the pseudo research groups I pointed out.
<7> Oh, no no let me scroll up. I had to work for 15 minutes and missed you posting
<1> reality1: ohhhhhhhhhh, now you're qualifying it.
<4> K_F: You are ***uming the numbers are significantly diffrent in .no ,)
<2> siglite: I already qualified it much earlier. In my initial response to you.
<1> reality1: and FWIW, on the original issue, you and I are on exactly the same page.
<1> reality1: except I have to plea some ignorance
<3> wlfshmn: amongst the girls I'm going for ... yes
<1> reality1: abstinance is a bull**** solution for a health issue.
<3> can't for the life of it remember what that is called statistically.. you make a selection from the population and get a...
<1> just speaking in generalities (since that's all I know at this point)
<4> K_F: I think that is a dangerious ***umption too
<3> population frame?
<2> K_F: It's called a sample.
<3> reality1: no, didn't think of it like that..
<4> K_F: while "good girls" might be less likely to catch something, they might also be less likely to test themselves for something.
<3> wlfshmn: well, at the moment the statement holds true as I'm not getting any
<4> K_F: yeah. the conservatives would be proud of you. ;)
<8> "Good" girls ?
<4> K_F: Abstinence ftw! ;)
<8> Where ? xD
<5> trustixer: welcome to #flamewars
<9> *** free since 2004.
<4> eek
<5> NineVolt: wife still mad at you?
<2> NineVolt: By choice?
<8> I do practice whatever my wife does tell me
<4> I practice abstinence too, but not out of choice ,)
<7> siglite, holy **** you played the janet reno card in a gun forum. thats just not playing fair.
<9> strangely enough, i think by choice.
<7> thats almost a Godwin right there
<5> TenBaseT_: huh? he burn the place down?
<9> i mean i've p***ed up head...
<9> i think i could've ****ed this giant-tittied indian girl on sunday..
<1> lol
<1> hahahahah
<1> but I think it probably got the point across.
<7> siglite: that post is pure gold.
<7> yeah
<4> NineVolt: so, what stopped you?
<7> it shows hte hypocricy of how they guys turn into lapdogs as soon as their guy is in charge
<9> i dunno. my intent to be celibate? :P
<3> wlfshmn: sent you an image in notice.. :)
<4> NineVolt: so, when did your balls fall off?
<7> Ka-bar: are you taking issue with the CDC's statement of the prevalance of HPV?
<9> late 2004.
<3> wlfshmn: started working in marketing 1st of feb, was running around ouside my office all day yesterday
<5> TenBaseT_: no, I'm taking issue with reality1's misrepresentation of that statement.
<3> wlfshmn: petite chiquita deluxe
<2> Ka-bar: What the **** did I misrepresent?
<9> kinda depressing really.
<4> Ka-bar: not bad..
<9> i dunno wtf is wrong with me :P
<7> Man, if 80% of women had a virus that could cause cancer I dont think there's a whole lot to misrepresent
<9> either i got -way- too picky or i'm a***ual.
<4> Ka-bar: the new chick here is somewhat cute, but not really my type
<3> wlfshmn: she's not bad at all, although the picture doesn't give her anything resembling full credits
<4> s/Ka-Bar/K_F/
<1> TenBaseT_: that post on the MCA shut 'em down.
<3> wlfshmn: I sooo have to find a way to hit that..
<5> TenBaseT_: no no no... it stated that they have one of the over 100 strains of the virus. Only a few of those strains are actually known to increase the risk of cervical cancer. Read it again.
<1> TenBaseT_: no one posted any argument to it.
<7> Ka-bar: ah, I see.
<4> maybe it's just because she is new here, but this chick appears to be submissive to the point of beeing uninteresting
<1> wlfshmn: what chick?
<7> but this vaccine only protects against some of the nastier cancer-causing strains, I believe.
<1> there's a chick in here?
<4> siglite: new chick at work
<7> it doesnt make you HPV-proof, I dont believe.
<4> siglite: we actually managed to hire a female for once
<7> I think its crap that there's neither a test nor a vaccine for men
<3> wlfshmn: this chick has a Masters of Science in Business and Economics
<1> oh
<3> wlfshmn: so indeed very interesting :)
<7> Ka-bar: if there were an AIDS vaccine, would you want your kids to have it?
<1> I thought you meant like sarah: http://www.criticalstop.com/sarah_puter.jpg
<2> The vaccine protects against HPV 6, 11, 16, and 18. Those are the strains that cause 70% of cervical cancer and 90% of genital warts.
<4> K_F: I know nothing aobut this one, and see no point in digging into her academic record ;)
<7> OH GOD NSFW THAT ****
<1> LOL, sorry
<3> wlfshmn: she popped into my email :)
<1> NSFW.
<3> wlfshmn: and intranet..
<7> WHY IN THE NAME OF ALL THAT IS HOLY DID I HELP YOU GET YOUR WEB SERVER BACK UP YESTERDAY
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