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<0> NineVolt: which made it very convenient for PMCs
<0> no law.
<1> i figured the US would've been quick to hook them up with some sort of judicial system.
<1> ****, i guess i missed my chance to mow down innocent civilians legally :\
<2> NineVolt: The US didnt want to impose a US judicial system on them
<2> The iraqi courts structure now is mostly like the one they had prior to the invasion
<2> just a lot less competent
<2> and a lot less efficient
<3> and kleenex
<1> i'm gonna confess to smoking cubans in the caribbean
<4> heya fredk
<2> siglite: NineVolt here doesnt believe that US law applies to him while abroad.
<1> hopefully there's no supershort statute of limitations.
<5> !@^&*#@*&$%@#^%!@(#
<3> K_F, yo
<5> :o(
<4> cheeksy: what?
<1> i don't believe that US law applies beyond US jurisdiction.
<5> oh damn computer giving me hustles.
<0> for US citizens, it does indeed.
<1> and i believe US jurisdiction is limited to the US and its holdings.
<0> go kill someone in holland and see what happens.
<5> i will go watch The Unhitched instead
<5> laters
<1> i'll probably be prosecuted in holland.
<1> ***uming murder is illegal there.
<2> better yet, go tell the US customs guy that you ****ed a 14 year old whore in amsterdam
<0> State will attempt to have you extradited back home to charge you with murder in the US
<1> a better analogy would be "try smoking weed in amsterdam"
<1> really.
<0> yeah
<2> thats illegal too.
<1> we'll find out soon enough then.
<1> when i confess to having smoked that cuban in antigua.
<2> but if you want to really get them riled up, try the underage hooker method.
<0> that's why we have extradition treaties with most of europe
<4> TenBaseT_: ... if he traveled under a US p***port
<0> K_F: true, true
<1> so you're saying if i'm a citizen of, say, germany, and my, say, son gets murdered by an american...
<0> the frogs won't honor our extradition treaties in capitol cases.
<2> K_F we're not talking about enforcability, we're talking about what constitutes criminal behavior
<1> i can look forward to never seeing that american prosecuted in a german court for his crimes?
<6> siglite: tsk, you have one-sided extradition treaties
<2> neither will the UK
<2> or most of the EU
<1> because instead he'll get whisked away to some foreign land and face charges there?
<1> unlikely. i don't buy it.
<4> TenBaseT_: no, but if he traveled under the canadian p***port or whatever dual-citizenship he has he would be a canadian at the moment
<0> NineVolt: well, extradition for prosecution in US courts is unusual. Most of the time, you get tried locally.
<2> K_F: he's a US citizen until he he renounces it
<2> K_F: it's not like he can just chgrp his identity.
<4> TenBaseT_: but that 2006 act might change a thing or two, which brings up some interesting legal points
<0> this is a huge issue with our immigration policies.
<4> TenBaseT_: I'll actually p*** it on to some legal grads
<0> the theory is that we kick them to mexican authorities to be tried in mexico for crimes here (because they're mexican citizens)
<4> TenBaseT_: see if they can find something interesting in itt..
<4> -t
<0> however, mexico doesn't do anything to them.
<2> K_F: yea, it's a whole legal can of worms
<2> siglite: you know how you enjoy ****ting up the sigforums now and again?
<0> TenBaseT_: yeah, I tore 'em a new ***hole over the MCA.
<0> TenBaseT_: NO ONE responded to my analysis of it.
<2> siglite: I fear I just started a ****storm on a gun forum I frequent.
<6> siglite: well, crossing the border into the US without a p***port isn't a crime in mexico..
<0> TenBaseT_: did you see my MCA analysis?
<2> siglite: the topic was the HPV vaccine for girls,
<2> siglite: hahah NO
<0> TenBaseT_: dude, it was ****ing brilliant if I do say so myself.
<0> omg, lemme find it
<1> also, the hpv vaccine..
<1> i can't find any meaningful info about it.
<1> i've looked on merck's site, can't find anything.
<7> NineVolt: What do you want to know?
<1> what's the probability of adverse effects? what's the success rate at stopping hpv?
<1> and how much is merck making off the deal?
<1> it just strikes me as a case of "nobody buying your products? legislate mandatory usage!"
<7> NineVolt: 0% adverse effects. 100% effective at preventing cervical cancer.
<2> siglite: and said that as virtuous as these guys think their teenage girls are, the hard cold fact is that every guy from 13-30 is spending every waking moment trying to figure out to get in their pants, and that they're going to most likely end up having *** before they're married. I added that lots of girls get raped and it never gets reported, either. I threw in that "technical virgins" can also get HPV. With that in mind, not getting them vaccinated
<1> reality1 : i don't buy it.
<1> sorry.
<1> even acetaminophen has adverse effects.
<7> NineVolt: Clinical trials and tests do not lie.
<1> you can't tell me some antiviral vaccine doesn't.
<1> link please
<7> It's not an antiviral.
<1> o_O
<4> TenBaseT_: :)
<7> NineVolt: Are you at a University or have access to clinical journals?
<2> It's really effective at stopping it.
<2> the vaccine stops I think 6 strains of HPV
<1> i suppose.
<1> if it's a vaccine, shouldn't there be a successful infection rate?
<2> a what?
<1> i only have easy access to tech journals.
<1> like, people that actually get sick from it?
<2> I dont think its a live vaccine, if thats what you're getting at
<1> ah.
<2> No one gets polio from the vaccine :D
<4> ok, I have business and law journals
<1> then i guess the only unanswered question is how much merck is making on it :P
<2> siglite: so, basically, in a forum full of gun-toting conversative men, I insinuated that their daughters were filthy whores.
<0> LOL
<0> eg
<8> If it has 0% adverse effects and 100% effectiveness at preventing cervical cancer, then why is the American College of Pediatricians opposed to it?
<0> don't let your daughters **** for meth?
<1> probably because it "promotes free ***" or some bs like that.
<0> TenBaseT_: ahah
<7> Ka-bar: Simply because HPV is not an air bourne disease.
<0> TenBaseT_: I found it
<8> Pediatricians are claiming that the 0 adverse effects claim is false.
<0> TenBaseT_: http://sigforum.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/320601935/m/754109957?r=926108067#926108067
<2> I see the american college of pediatricians is a political action group
<0> TenBaseT_: you'll LOVE that post.
<4> Ka-bar: because americans are prudes..
<9> what the hell is going on now
<4> TenBaseT_: filthy whores my arse, a healthy ***life (including *** before marrige) is not a bad thing
<7> Ka-bar: As usual, you're wrong. The ACP has not questioned the 0% side effects of gardasil
<7> Ka-bar: Not to mention, the ACP is a conservative group.
<0> I think "conservative" means "wrong/clueless" in reality1's world.
<7> siglite: In most cases, that's a fact.
<0> pft
<4> siglite: it at least means christian conservative... so yes
<8> siglite: anyone who is not a flaming communist is wrong in his world.
<7> Ka-bar: Go ahead and attack the person, but I have yet to see you attack the argument.
<0> reality1: for someone who's name is "reality" you seem to have a great deal of trouble distinguishing "reality" from "opinion"
<7> Which is about par for the course.
<4> Ka-bar: I don't give a damn about communists unless I'm the one that is paying for it, and in Norway it is..
<0> and you're a scientist to boot.
<7> siglite: I'm laying out the reality. Whether Ka-bar or yourself choose to accept it, that's your perogative. The fact of the matter is that the drug is 100% effective at preventing cervical cancer and has 0 adverse side effects.
<4> TenBaseT_: feel free to push a copy of that post my way btw :)
<4> TenBaseT_: sounds like a good read
<0> reality1: I'm not arguing about the subject at hand, because I'm clueless on the subject.
<8> reality1: I read an article this morning about Gov. Perry's order. The article also stated that the ACP was opposed to it because they claim that the vaccine can be dangerous.
<0> reality1: I'm attacking your condemnation of "conservative" as "clueless/wrong"
<4> Ka-bar: "dangerous" is too vague though
<8> And I was unaware that the ACP was a political group rather than a doctor's group.
<4> Ka-bar: most can on some level be linked to opinion/belief, so everyone is per definition biased
<0> I do wonder about the testing/trials on the vaccine.
<7> siglite: The only "opinion" here is that the vaccine shouldn't be used because it's not spread like measles but rather through intercourse and therefore education rather than vaccines should be given. That's the opinion of the ACP.
<8> and as for attacking the ideas instead of the people... you first.
<4> Ka-bar: which isn't wrong per se, one just have to factor it in while digesting the information
<0> reality1: one that I disagree with. But I don't know anything about the drug trials.
<10> jlgaddis: 'moo'
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