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<0> vIkSiT: it appears that the girl he killed in ar was a friend of my wife's
<1> db2, there's a firing range that our PD uses just a mile east of my apartment
<2> siglite, whoa
<3> hello
<1> I can hear rapid fire at times. It's mostly small arms fire
<0> she's frantically searching google for a news photo of her
<2> damn
<0> to see if it was her. The name and age match, so it's a good chance.
<2> oh, that would be awful - and you said he stopped by there?
<3> I'm a n00b, but I was thinking about partitioning my hard drive (runs on Windows XP home) and installing Linux...any tips/advice/considerations? Any help would be appreciated
<4> iolite #linuxhelp
<2> Steakk, make up your mind already!!
<5> lets see..Willie Horton, Ed Kennedy, John Kerry, Whitey Bulger, etc...
<3> thanks docfu
<6> ****in BNC server ****s
<6> whoops
<6> last time
<1> Iolite: most distributions wil automatically partition your drive for you without issues.
<2> hehe
<3> thanks cappicard
<7> Still no comparison.
<8> that kid they shot was a wacked out rightwing gun freak
<1> db2, how's this... the Independence, MO PD will no longer use tasers just because some suspect bitched about it (the kicker was that this suspecting was fighting with the police and resisting arrest!)
<5> oh yeah, who was that looney tunes judge (oh yeah, Maria Lopez)...she had her *** kicked off the bench for being too much of a ***** in sentencing
<4> cappicard good, if people resist arrest i hope they just shoot em
<7> He was 18, the woman in his car was 33. News said she was his ex-gf. Quite an age difference, 15 years, between them.
<5> Cap...There are rules for the police...not for the general public :)
<1> db2, how about that damn judge Cashman in M***achusetts for only giving a convicted *** offender 60 days in jail for molesting a 7-year-old girl for 4 years continuously. He claims that offender couldn't get counseling in prison!
<1> docfu: rightly so
<0> wtf?
<5> Cashman is in VT, not MA...he reconsidered...but I think he should resign as a judge, and go into social work, it seems to be his calling in life
<1> siglite: yep
<4> i think we could take a few tips from our chinese and muslim friends when it comes to prosecuting crime
<0> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,183696,00.html
<1> db2, yeah. my mistake on the state
<1> db2, he should resign iMVHO
<5> docfu, i'm in favor of caning violent criminals
<4> siglite that anywhere near you?
<1> db2, honestly, you CAN'T rehabiliate violent ***ual offenders no matter what.
<4> its awefully cruel
<1> siglite: my God!
<4> dogbert2 heh yeah
<1> db2, yep. Castration and permanently!
<4> dogbert2 as my criminal justice teacher used to say 'tack em to a stump and kick em over backwards"
<5> lets see, use vise grips on their testicles...
<9> thats a very informative topic.
<5> cut off Mr. Happy and replace with a mangina
<7> How does vengence work for reducing crime?
<4> dogbert2 i'm up for just killing em
<4> lets do it chinese style
<1> siglite: that is pretty sickening... wtf would someone dump animal car***es, let alone kill them for no apparent reason
<4> they clean out the jails on christmas eve as a present to the people
<4> NDP determines others from making the same stupid mistake
<4> and if you say it doesn't work look at china
<5> NDP...i've used violence to help incarcerate criminals...one is still behind bars, the other two are dead (as a result of being gang bangers), i've broken a guy's leg who tried to steal my car, and almost choked a guy to death for trying to steal my video poker winnings
<7> http://www.doc.state.ok.us/MAPS/incrimUS.htm
<4> you know what?
<7> docfu: Its hard to compare a free society such as ours to a totalitarian one.
<5> that's MY solution to criminal behaviour
<4> its sunday night, i'm not in a mood for discussion 101
<7> dogbert2: Yes but did any of those actions stop those who came after them?
<7> Aside from making you feel good what good did it do?
<7> Thats my question.
<8> wow you guys are more blood thristy than the nutjobs in #politics
<5> NDP, beats me, I just enjoyed inflicting pain and punishment...
<4> shields: FYI now is really not a good time
<7> I'm not saying seeking vengence can't be satisifying. But if you're interested in actually reducing the crime rate it takes more than just punitative measures.
<7> Oh you don't have to care about the criminals.
<4> NDP no actually it doesn't
<7> You just have to care about the citizens who are potential victims of criminals.
<4> if we started executing anyone with a 20+ year sentence i'd guarrantee our crime rate would drop
<7> And if you do, you choose policies that work and not just ones that seek vengence.
<7> docfu: Perhaps but we have to operate within the framework of being a sane society.
<7> Not a savage one.
<4> NDP its not vengence, its "culling"
<1> potential as opposed to actual?
<5> NDP, a few years back, we had ten criminals shot to death by homeowners in the span of a week (one 80 year old lady plugged four guys herself)...the burglary rate for homes went down 85% for the next 6 months
<7> Eugenics?
<1> "potential" presents problems with civil liberties.
<7> cappicard: Everyone is a potential victim of crime. And people who have already been victimized probably wouldn't want to be again.
<7> I mean the proof is in the numbers. If heavily punitive tough on crime policies worked, then conservative states would be the ones with the lowest crime rates instead of the highest.
<1> thus why I want the ability (when feasible and possible) to protect myself instead of having to rely on someone else.
<4> NDP Do you know why they make new deputy sherrifs work for 5 years in the jail before giving them a car?
<5> NDP, I own 4 firearms and a sawed-off shotgun (just incase anyone wants to break into my house) :)
<7> Since they're not, to continue to run them the way they are run is pretty much proof that they're only interested in vengence.
<7> dogbert2: And when you become too old to be your own one man security force what will you do then?
<1> Kansas is a conservative state. Our overall crime rate is lower than say California.
<7> cappicard: I support the 2nd Amendment.
<5> NDP, well, i'm 42...i'll cross that bridge when I come to it
<7> But we still need a justice system.
<4> um
<4> i know a guy who's 80
<4> and can still fire a gun easily..it doesn't take a lot of effort
<6> damned ****in computer
<5> docfu, I can still make explosives (amazing what you learn in chemistry cl*** and what the feds will teach you for free) :)
<7> cappicard: CA has many many times the population. At a certain level populations distort things.
<7> docfu: Does he have loud dogs? Your hearing can start to go at that age.
<5> hmmmmm, hillbilly napalm
<1> I'm talking about ratios.
<6> much better
<7> In any case, it would be nice to be able to live in a state/region where you didn't HAVE to think about being armed all the time.
<1> crime rates per 1000 people.
<5> NDP...to be totally armed is to be totally protected
<4> there is no such place where you can go unarmed and be safe
<4> (not outdoors anyway)
<7> One could say the same of being armed.
<7> We tend to find the things we're looking for in life. Look for a fight you'll find one.
<1> who says that being armed necessarily means carrying a gun?
<5> fortunately, I can carry as many guns as I want concealed on my person
<9> dogbert2: you in law enforcement?
<1> db2, Kansas doesn't have a CCW law yet.
<5> cap...true...gimme my thermite, napalm, explosives, chemical weapons :)
<9> or just insane?
<7> cappicard: You talking switchblades, mace and the like?
<1> MO does, but many businesses are allowed under that CCW law to prohibit firearms on their premises.
<5> D-Side, nope...have a CCW permit and can own a full auto machine gun
<1> NDPTAL85: yes
<9> well then.
<6> okay, doom3 is officially a PITA game
<4> hey D-side, happy barmistfa
<4> steakk for ****s sake, get halflife 2
<4> doom3 ****ed ***
<5> cap...i'd like to see the first business sued by a crime victim who couldn't use their gun to protect themselves from a criminal...it will happen
<0> they're not putting a photo of this chick anywhere.
<4> siglite maybe you should dial up the police and just ask em
<1> db2, it's interesting that you can own a semi-auto and carry one as long it's in plain sight. So, if you're licensed and have a semi mounted on the back window of a truck, you're legal :)
<7> They can be sued, but they'll win the case.
<5> cap...my sawed-off is completely legal
<7> The possibility of being damaged from being held liable for allowing guns on a premises is higher than someone being killed cause they couldn't use their gun on a premesis.
<5> NDP...being sued in a situation like that is BAD for business :)
<7> You mean in terms of scaring off customers?
<5> NDP, depends on how good of a shot one is :)
<1> NDPTAL85: it just comes down to common sense when to carry a gun to a business or not
<5> NDP, exactly...word gets out, business will dry up
<7> Wouldn't that depend on the type of business?
<7> And how many gun lovers/freaks make up its customer base?
<4> NDP you know what? you go up to alaska and its a whole nother ball game
<7> docfu: How so?
<5> not normally...look what happened in the Wendys Chili case...complete hoax, they lost 25 million in sales
<4> one of my friends visited a small town and felt like he was in a western
<10> I need help in spanish
<4> everybody carried a gun
<4> nopolito #linuxlatino
<10> 10 a lot
<5> docfu, sounds like my kind of town...i'd probably carry 4 guns
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