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<0> Tron: Sounds like fun ;9
<1> Tron: So? I like Solaris 10. Not everybody is perfect enough to stick to Linux 8)
<2> Lion-O: Linux is good too of course, I'm not a zealot ;)
<1> Tron: But tell me.. Any specific parts which appealed to you ?
<2> Lion-O: FreeBSD felt like a well-oiled smooth vehicle compared to linux's Land Rover trapsing over rough terrain, for one.
<2> FreeBSD seems to handle memory allocation in a nicer way. Might just be my rose-tinted specs.
<0> Tron: Atleast the landrover you know how to fix with chewing gum a can of wd40 and a hammer
<1> hmm
<2> Just some musings after installing it on a dodgy laptop I have which might crash or freeze at any moment.
<3> systems like freebsd stick almost religiously to one certain subset of 'things you expect from an OS'
<3> which is ok if you're after something rigid, but ****s if you're after something flexible.
<3> just my 2cts :)
<2> exel: Lan Rovers are fun ;)
<2> Land
<2> wlfshmn: The hammer being the most important tool of course ;)
<2> Anyways, I'm going to keep using FBSD for a bit.
<1> Tron: its good to broaden your horizon.
<1> or rather; widen it.
<2> Lion-O: It does no harm, put it that way.
<0> Tron: why, ofcourse ;)
<0> Tron: solid hell-no-I-won't-go engineering them land rovers
<0> Tron: comfort be damned. I'm a car! Not a sofa!
<2> wlfshmn: I've been flung around the countryside in one more than a few times. They're fantastic fun.
<4> "something"
<4> and there are still such small devices around ? :P
<2> Revenger: Well I did mention it was a /spare/ drive ;)
<4> 10 years ago we were *dreaming* about a 10G drive.
<2> Aye
<4> msdos came on what, like 3 floppies ? :P
<1> 3 720kb 3.5" disks, later 2 1.44's ;)
<5> this is something: you two talk about old dos on #linux and some guys gives advice about gcc compiling on #windows...
<5> this is nice, i guess....
<1> open standards :P
<2> We'll boot the next person to ask a Linux question here :P
<4> hahaha
<2> "/kb <luser> HOW DARE YOU ASK SUCH A QUESTION IN HERE!111! *FOAM*"
<5> how do i change the font size in suse linux 10?
<5> :)
<2> 0.o
<5> really, now...is there a console command or something?
<2> Aciduzzu: Your question is ****e.
<2> Aciduzzu: font size for WHAT, precisely?
<2> Printer fonts? console fonts? gnome fonts? What?
<5> for the whole system...kde...
<5> is to small
<2> Aciduzzu: You're kidding me, right?
<5> or i'm getting blind
<2> Aciduzzu: KDE? Gotta be one of the easiest settings to find, ever.
<5> yeah i thought so
<5> control center, right?
<6> O_o;
<2> Aciduzzu: Bingo.
<2> Sagoro: Greets.
<6> heya Tron
<7> hiya Lion-O, Tron, Sagoro, Revenger
<5> no it's not. :(
<6> hi tavi-san
<2> tavi
<7> how's life guys?
<6> *shrug*
<8> pfffffffffff
<9> i to use a windows xp
<9> ihi
<9> hi
<10> moron
<5> right
<5> like me
<5> at least i use vnc
<10> ok yet another idiot
<10> 14:33 [Undernet] [triXtyle(~asdasd@85.95.82.186)] yo man
<10> 14:33 [Undernet] [triXtyle(~asdasd@85.95.82.186)] **** YOUR OLD UGLY MOTHER!!!!!!!
<11> hjahahahahahahah
<12> the customer after yesterday's DoS has been notified :)
<13> where are you tijiani
<11> gypsy invasion
<2> TBT
<11> guten morgen herr tron
<5> kill them all and let God make the difference!
<2> Aciduzzu: Please, STFU.
<11> Aciduzzu: see, mine was funny. Yours was just stupid and mean-spirited.
<2> And it mentioned God, which doesn't exist.
<5> hmmm...
<5> i mean Root
<2> Nope. Still not funny.
<5> Bush?
<11> While I applaud your effort, it's still not very funny.
<11> hahahah cripes, someone just sent
<5> ...very...hmm....appreciated, though....
<2> Hmm?
<11> hahahah cripes, someone just sent me a 85 page linux hardening guideline.
<11> with instructions that I am to implement it immediately.
<2> TenBaseT_: "1) Unplug network connection" ;)
<11> well, yeah, they dont touch the outside world. That's a given.
<6> encase the box in concrete and send it to the bottom of the ocean
<2> TenBaseT_: Are the guidelines realistic or stupid?
<11> concrete. Thats pretty hard. I think I'll use that.
<11> Tron: one of the steps is disable all the startup services and turn on what you can justify absolute need for. It's aimed at making redhat not stupid.
<2> TenBaseT_: *nod*
<11> here's a snipped of code from the document
<11> for file in chargen chargen-udp cups-lpd daytime \
<11> daytime-udp echo echo-udp eklogin finger gssftp imap \
<11> imaps ipop2 ipop3 krb5-telnet klogin kshell ktalk ntalk \
<11> pop3s rexec rlogin rsh rsync servers services sgi_fam \
<11> talk telnet tftp time time-udp vsftpd wu-ftpd ; do
<11> chkconfig $file off
<11> done
<2> Heh, so basically telling the linux box to "STFU until i say otherwise" ;)
<11> basically, yeah. and then you have to justify why you want/need services on. Past that, most of the document is chmod 600 $foo
<11> It's actually pretty reasonable, my problem is that it's a lengthy process and I have a lot of boxen to do it to.
<2> TenBaseT_: So a lot of the workstations there run Red Hat?
<14> hi *
<2> mod
<11> RH and SEL are our corporate standards, and at this site it's almost universally RH
<14> hey Tron
<11> Tron: No, we dont have a lot, but the ones we do run RH.
<2> TenBaseT_: I see. I was just wondering if all the workstations there are Linux or if there's a mix of Winduhs and Linux.
<14> ah, london2 rejoined
<11> Tron: remember, as an engineering company, we had a lot of Sun, SGI, and IBM workstations here a decade ago. The engineers still have the same engineering tools and maybe half of them were ported to UNIX around 2000 or so, but for the stuff thats left, it all runs on Linux now
<11> ack
<11> that should read 'ported to win32'
<2> TenBaseT_: Heheh. Securing Winduhs must be fun.
<11> You know, I wash my hands of it. It's someone elses job and someone elses responsibility. It looks like they do a fairly good job though.
<14> around 2000 -> when windows finally became halfway decent :^)
<2> Because I bet it's not just "bung AVG on it, it'll be fine" where you work ;)
<11> Tron: No, the base load image is completely useless. Everything that can be denied is done so, and then things are turned back on via group policies when you log into the network
<2> TenBaseT_: *nod*
<15> hi folks
<15> :)
<16> anyone here familier with traffic shaping ?
<17> good morning *
<14> hey Steakk
<17> did HL2 ever make it to an official linux release? or just via wine?
<17> Like, did Loki or `id' ever come out with its own native linux engine for it?
<11> You know whats awesome.
<11> all the ***holes from Seattle that I work with are moping around.
<17> why?
<17> is it still raining there or something?
<11> because the seahawks lost their game last night
<17> ahh
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