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<0> depends... named, mail, apache...
<0> ksh: good idea.
<0> also an ls -la of /tmp/ and /var/tmp/ to check for break-ins
<0> netstat -anep
<0> perhaps an rkhunter or chkrootkit run
<1> meep!
<2> m00...
<3> goddamn meepers
<4> eh****s: Ni!
<3> heya dogbert2
<2> heh...there is a nickname 'meeper' who gets kicked out of #politics all the time for doing large numbers of 'meep'
<2> m33p!
<5> hey anyone know of a flash like alternative for linux?
<5> for animation/graphics stuff?



<5> some sort of opensource flash mx type jazz?
<1> I must be nuts if I'm frying 5 eggs, opening a can of tuna, and pouring a large gl*** of milk at midnight... on a saturday night no less.
<0> for how many people?
<1> just myself :D
<1> oink, oink :)
<6> You should be tilting back a few bottles of b33r
<0> yes you're nuts
<4> cappicard: Yep, you're off your rocker.
<1> while dealing with a strained muscle...
<6> O_o;
<1> Pizbit, I knew that a long time ago ;)
<4> There's no hope for you.
<6> we don't wanna hear about that
<1> not that kind of muscle!
<1> lol
<6> You been stroking it too much?
<4> cappicard: Cooking with only one hand again?
<1> uh.. yeah, that's it!
<1> nah. strained a lat muscle at the gym on wednesday
<0> lat muscle?
<1> it's actually abit swollen
<1> put an icy-hot patch on it, and the pain's gone down, but it's still noticeable
<6> kinda quiet in here
<0> happy now?
<6> O_o;
<1> LOL
<1> i'm not the pillsbury doughboy ;)
<6> wtf?
<7> w00t?
<6> wtf?
<4> wtf?
<7> huh?
<8> how many states can linux iptables handle?
<9> hi
<9> hello
<10> need help 1min plss
<11> Hmm, need a qmail user
<11> Or rather, a copy of maildir2mbox
<12> PW
<11> Nanuq: Ey
<13> Can someone tell me how to make bash mimic the windows behavour when moving files? i want to move a directory from X to Y but I want it to combine the 2 directory structures, rather than get 'directory target/fff exists'. I can write a php script to do it, but was wondering if there is a smart way built in?
<14> that should work, provided you are moving the files not the dir itself
<14> so move dir/* rather than dir
<13> but i want to make a automatic script
<11> use rsync
<13> background: i use mythtv to grab tv, and want to move it to my mp3 player
<13> rsync is good, but I want to delete the originals
<13> i guess rsync followed by rm might be good
<14> PolarWolf: doesn't rsync leave the original behind?
<13> i need rmove :)
<11> Possibly
<14> or worse yet - copy the originals back if you have rmed them :)
<13> yes, i delete them as i watch them
<13> for the mp3s (radio shows) i use zip to zip and remove them, then unzip it. Thats fine for a gig or 2, but the tv shows are like 10 gig, so will take ages
<15> what is a good app for newsgroups dowloading ?
<16> ripnetUK: what you want is tar
<11> TRTint: "pan" works
<13> tar? that can be piped cant it? ie, tar xxxx | tar xxx



<16> ripnetUK: tar up the directory, rm -r it, then untar it to the new location
<13> thats similar to my (working) zip thing
<13> i reckon rsync is the one
<13> followed by rm
<16> it will overwrite files that are there, but it won't whine if the directory exists already. If it doesn't, it will create it for you
<13> thanks guys :)
<16> zip has overhead in the compression. Which is worthless if the files are uncompressible
<13> im trying to avoid a intermediate file, as its too slow with large video files (and its running in a xen virtual machine with limited local storage)
<16> video usually is
<13> im using zip -0
<14> smsie: you can use STOR mode - no compression
<16> fair enough
<16> hmm
<14> zip also usually has a m mode - move files to archive
<16> find might do it
<16> find /path/to/files -exec mv {} /new/path
<16> or similar
<14> find could, but getting it to recurse the parent structure and reproduce the path on the target could be an issue
<16> read the manpage to get the exact syntax, I don't memorise manpages myself :)
<16> oh, it's a tree?
<13> dave - thats how im doing it
<14> apparently
<16> sounds like a job for a perl/python/ruby/bash/<insert your favourite> script
<13> hehe
<13> i was going to do it in php, but i reckon rsync will do the job
<14> gzip also has a streaming mode which is handy. properly configured, you can stream gzip over netcat :)
<16> rsync carries overhead too
<13> rsync will defo copy them (i want to move the whole lot), followed by rm -rf
<13> rsync is very quick in my experience
<13> the limiting factor will be my ghetto NAS (Linksys NSLU2 with OpenSlug)
<13> that limits me to 3MB/s
<16> ouch
<11> painful
<16> that's a SLOW NAS
<13> its slow, but it cost :)
<16> my NAS (as it is) is just drives on a linux box with a gigE card in it :)
<13> and it saves electricity over a 'proper' box, and it keeps my SO happy (less noise / wires / heat)
<14> PAS - rfc1149 :)
<13> pas?
<16> I can read/write to it as fast as the drives allow (a LOT faster than 3M/s :)
<14> Pigeon attached storage :)
<13> hehe
<16> reminds me
<13> tcp over carrier pigeon
<16> I need to buy some storage for work
<13> can be over-clocks with amphetemine
<16> can you get external SATA bays which plugin via USB yet?
<16> no point buying IDE drives these days
<14> smsie: yes. maplins sell them I think
<13> right... im off to (slowly) copy video to my PMP :) thanks again for your help
<16> one of those and a (say) 300G SATA drive should do nicely
<13> cya later
<16> it's just to backup 150G drive anyway
<16> I'll buy it, because I am NOT going to tell them I have it
<16> if I tell them I have it they'll NEVER come up with a decent backup solution for me
<16> I can have all the space I want on the NAS...so they say. Which is fine, but I'm stuck on a poxy 10mbit hub...backup up 150G over 10mbit is *painful*
<11> smsie: Yeah. If only I could find an USB2.0 FC controller... :)
<16> PolarWolf: don't have cable for FC :(
<11> smsie: Oh, you want me to send you some?
<11> Copper or fiber? :)
<16> beside, SAN space if ****ing expensive...I'd have to go down the "make a business case" route for that
<11> smsie: The most expensive part I have is the backplane for the drives
<14> smsie: I went ide and got the slimide adaptor too, so I can do laptop drives in there as well
<11> smsie: Everything else was dist cheap
<16> the NAS is ethernet...the SAN is fiber. I can't physicaly reach the SAN from my office
<11> smsie: iSCSI...
<11> Though you want at leat gigE for that
<16> PolarWolf: I want to keep it as simple as possible. If I try to introduce new concepts like "sane planning" they'll just get confused
<16> I'm on 10mbit
<16> a hub even
<16> scary
<11> ew


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