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<0> @find abot
<0> hahahahah
<0> there's a channel on undernet called #diapers
<1> bah then you'd have no one to defend you from dogbert2 and the clones he stole from me :P
<1> nice
<0> and there are people in it
<2> Bah
<2> Just found out that the model car I was having my eye on isn't the 4x4 one
<2> I hate when salesmen lie
<3> they are salesmen and you expect honesty?
<2> Tawny: It would at least be nice to have him advertise the right model car
<3> yes our software can do everything including fly you to the moon says sales



<0> Tawny: you mean it can't?
<0> I WANT MY MONEY BACK
<3> exactly
<3> they never like losing that commision for LYING
<3> PolarWolf: never trust sales and always research and check with two other sales people when buying anything lol
<3> at least anything of significant worth
<2> Tawny: Yah, apparently
<4> yawn.
<5> Heelo!! ;-)
<5> Can sombody help me with a newbe question about uclibc??
<5> they 'are not verry clear on that uclibc site but..
<5> They talk about a toolschains..
<2> yeh, toolchain.
<6> the toolchain is the collection of tools you use to compile code... compiler, ***embler, linker, etc.
<5> Butt, will BusyBox work made with Glibc if i just copy the uclibc runtime to a start disk?
<2> generally you compile busybox staically
<5> With other words: do i need to compille programs with uclibc to run them on a startdisk or can i just build BusyBox with Glibc?
<6> I suspect not, since it will want to link against glibc.
<7> hehe
<5> so, ihave to build the toolschain and build busybox against that to make a start disk with those tools??
<6> Kikkerkop: well, you should already have the toolchain, you just need to configure it to link against uclibc
<2> Kikkerkop: Yup
<5> I use Linux from scratch live cd as toolschain..
<5> But they say on de uclibc site you need a special prepared toolschain..
<5> Reale confusing..
<8> blah
<9> Kikkerkop: yes, you need a special toolchain. Why is that confusing?
<10> god damn writing parsers are a hell :P
<11> Jostein: huh?
<11> ohhh. Them. Lex, bison, etc.
<5> Thats the only question that i have, I can not make a start disk with the normal tools, leve the disk image open and install uclibc on the disk?
<5> I have to build busybox with uclibc?
<2> Kikkerkop: What architecture are you building for?
<5> For i386
<2> Kikkerkop: You don't need uClibc. Just build busybox statically.
<5> normal laptop..
<10> Viking667: Im wiritng a ircbot. I need to parse all incoming stuff 100% correct or its all foobar
<2> Build statically, strip the binary and build your bootdisk around it
<11> ohhhh.
<12> Jostein: ****, YOU can't even parse incoming **** 100% so how do you expect to write a bot that does?
<13> lol
<7> Falchion: it's your typing we can't parse. :P
<10> Falchion: 100% correctly that is
<5> I hav folowd some page of buiding a bootdisk, and everything works but they say you "Nearly every program requires at least the libc library"
<10> Falchion: like... not mistaking a /me for a /ctcp
<10> Falchion: they both are sent as PROVMSG with a weird escape char
<10> minor things like that :P
<10> cigs
<14> vigs? is that short for viagra?
<13> heh ksh
<12> Jostein: yeah yeha, just picking on you :)
<5> Thanks and others for the help, I think I have to reed some more.. Linux is verry hard to learn for a beginner.. ;-)
<10> Falchion: heh
<13> Yeah, it's a steep, but worth while, learning curve Kikkerkop
<5> (polarWolf and others..)
<2> Kikkerkop: What you want to do is easy as heck
<2> Kikkerkop: Your biggest issue will be putting the kernel and a useable filesystem on a floppy disk (which I ***ume you want to(
<2> s/$/)/



<5> I have the kernel on the first floppy and it runs..
<5> and the second floppy work also but i want to use uclibc on the second floppy becous it is smaller..
<2> Kikkerkop: Depends on what you need to do. I tend to build everything statically and be done with it.
<13> Nevvvermind, I googled and found many, many, many wonderful script suppositories.
<7> PolarWolf: mmmm.... yeah, and lossy compression tends not to work on code. ;)
<14> like, hi and stuff
<2> Ka-bar: Nope
<2> I have a very nice NFS bootable filesystem which is compressed and extracts itself to a ramdisk
<2> It runs a mosix node
<7> cool
<2> Ka-bar: http://www.moosecrossing.org/blog/?p=6
<15> hello
<2> yalu: You ****
<15> oops? we just meet?
<2> Dunno, you just happened to enter when I decided that someone had to **** today
<13> Welcome back splittarz.
<7> PolarWolf: see what you did?
<13> Anyone familiar with this book and can recommend it (or recommend not getting it)? http://www.intuitive.com/wicked/
<14> oongala boongala
<14> with no option to postpone said updates
<3> so ksh can't skip out early? lol
<16> awaits
<14> That's right, ksh can't skip out early now
<3> gannon gitmo?
<3> oops
<14> O_o;
<3> wrong window
<16> http://secunia.com/Internet_Explorer_Address_Bar_Spoofing_Vulnerability_Test/
<16> that is a major security flaw :P
<17> well m$ will patch it ...once they are done with vista
<13> hahaha
<16> hehe
<16> seriously though, alot of users will fall for this
<16> even more than normal phishing
<16> since it says $mybank in the address bar it's safe, right?
<13> uh huh
<13> yup, that's dangerous.
<3> extremely dangerous
<7> hfs
<17> yep, just waiting for a hoax of home-banking phishing to come along, a lot of emty accounts to follow
<13> I mean, it's now *I* know I'm on a safe page... I've seen the results of people getting hacked when someone says, "Here, my pictures are on my Geocities page" and they give a link that takes you to a duplicate of Yahoo's login page, but if you read the address, it's actually the hackers homepage.
<18> a fool and his money is soon departed. If anyone falls for scam spam then they deserve what they get
<19> most of those phising sites are sooo stupid. Even the e-mail clearly displays you the fraud *IF* you bother to 1) Read the URL's in the mail. 2) Actually bother to READ the AULA's from the stuff you use.
<13> I know a very young girl who was the daughter of a friend who got coerced into sending nude pics of a guy who hacked her Yahoo account that way. But if someone did it to me *and* used that bug, and it said login.yahoo.com, it would have gotten me.
<16> CeruleanD, yeah and now it appears you're on yahoo's login page.
<13> Er ,"to a guy"
<13> Exactly
<19> I mean... "We'd never send you an email to ask you to logon, we'd present the info after you logged on". (from paypal faq, no literal quote).
<13> And there's no way to tell the difference.
<18> there is always a way to tell the difference, get an email client that doesn't display everything in ****ing html
<16> Lion-O, I agree with you, but you know that life isnt that simple
<18> no scam is very good to fool someone who isn't a dumb***
<2> Better study the SSL certificate from now on then
<13> *shrug*
<19> fredk-: I don't. It isn't simply for people who are not willing to think.
<16> at the end of the day, alot of people are struggling with basic it concepts.
<19> fredk-: don't get me wrong; phising sites should be destroyed and the people making them convicted, heck, I closed down quite a few myself (well, my actions have). But in the end its just stupid people.
<16> so, you have a few IT friends.. and what do they tell you? yeah look at the address bar
<16> if its says that you're on your bank, you're safe
<16> and, now even that cant be trusted
<19> fredk-: skip the IT friends, skip the looking at the message, skip all that ****.
<2> No, don't trust anything which doesn't run over SSl with a valid certificate :)
<19> fredk-: how about just *looking* at what you're using and learning how it works?
<13> Looking at *what* though Lion-O?
<19> CeruleanD: see above. How about a paypal faq stating "we'll never ask you for....".
<16> alot of people simply arent wired for how a computer works, it simply not in their nature.
<14> The internet ****s
<19> other example; you logon to X and what do you get? "Undernet wil NEVER ask you for your p***word". Yet many keep on pretending and may keep on giving their p***words.


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