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<0> MIB == Management Interface Base OID == Object ID
<0> something like that
<1> hm.
<2> D-side: an MIB is a program you run that supports a given device or whatever
<2> like there might be a MIB for Apache
<2> OID is just an object identifier
<1> so wouldnt having the MIB for this procurve switch solve the problems?
<0> no, a MIB is just a text file that describes the OIDs
<3> a mib practically describes each available oid
<2> if you've got no MIB for it you can't very well use SNMP with it
<2> sorry, strider's right
<0> there are a whack of standard MIBs
<1> Strider-: but isn't that what he's looking for?
<2> If SNMP is XML, the MIB is a DTD
<0> for things like VLANs and the like
<1> if an MIB describes the OIDs, doesn't that answer his question?



<0> D-side: yes, but there are lots of MIBs
<0> and the switch probably responders to a bunch of them.
<1> i'm talking about the MIB for this specific switch.
<0> D-side: it doesn't work that way.
<1> dammit.
<1> i really need docs that explain this, instead of asking stupid questions.
<1> maybe net-snmp will help me.
<3> i've found http://support.ipmonitor.com/mibs/HP-VLAN/tree.aspx but my 2626 apparently doesnt support that...
<0> there's an interface MIB, and so forth..
<0> that responds to SNMP
<2> cabletron? that's old skewl.
<0> and also my UPS speaks SNMP
<0> Menno: it's a 24 port 10/100 switch.. I bought it for $20
<0> managed switch to boot
<2> my friend used to have a 10 megabit HP managed *hub*
<0> so I can see if one of my ethernet devices is misbehaving.
<0> heh
<4> Which package i need to install for qt in ubuntu 6.06, i got error while ./configure vypress chat.
<5> Cl***ic, chances are you are looking for qt-mt-dev
<5> or soemthign along those lines
<4> Is it in ubuntu 6.06?
<6> WTH
<6> no kicking?
<7> why ?
<7> hee ok sorry.
<6> lame mirc colours and auto aways?
<8> lose the auto and colour ****
<7> auto away message =)
<7> yeah
<7> p&p
<8> Oktay: we don't care
<8> lose it anyway
<6> so...
<6> what happened to the Hound?
<3> Jostein seems somebody needs to restart it
<6> I dont have access to that shanta thing, so don't look at me :P
<8> i do, but i have no clue how to restart the hund
<0> here ends my days of traveling pure carryon..
<0> grumble
<0> sorry to keep bitching about it. :)
<5> Strider-, goin through the UK, eh?
<0> Steakk: no, I refuse to go through the UK
<9> its worth bitching about, it really is
<0> the UK can FOAD
<5> then i mis-intrepreted your comment
<9> i think more people should bitch about it
<5> thought you beant 'no more carryon' as 'stuck w/goin through the uk'
<0> Steakk: no, I used to travel pure carryon.. but now I can't take my toiletries kit wiht me.
<6> Strider-: whats wrong with the UK? >:)
<5> ahhh
<0> so I'll actually have to check luggage..
<0> Jostein: ****ing stupid carryon rules
<6> right
<0> I don't trust the luggage handlers at any airport...
<0> and having to wait for your luggage at the carrousel is annoying.
<0> :)
<0> </rant>
<6> Strider-: its for your own good though. Things like cleansing liquid for contacts lenses can be very explosive at high altitudes



<10> Strider-: This winter when I travel to AZ to visit a friend I'm going to FedEx my stuff to him in advance.
<0> Jostein: bull****
<6> Strider-: you didn't detect a single character of sarcasm in that sentence? :P
<0> Lozvare: that's what I'm thinking of doing.
<0> Jostein: :P
<0> Lozvare: we already fedex around a toolkit for me, so I might as well just stick my shaving kit in there.
<9> i checked my laptop as luggage last time i flew
<9> they wouldn't let me take it aboard
<0> but now my rolly suitcase doesn't meet the carryon allowances any more either... they want something with a measurement of 16cm on one side, which is ludicrously small.
<9> it was the day after they arrested those ****wits
<0> loather-work: two things I will never check: Laptop and camera. period
<10> of course not having any luggage will probably get me "randomly selected" for an anal probe
<0> I'll drive instead of checking those things
<9> fortunately, i had a large hard case from bringing a server with me
<2> Strider-: If you go to the UK you'll have to drive across the polar ice cap..
<8> the plants who ensured that governments would be able to continue taking away more and more of your freedoms?
<0> Lozvare: given that my p***port now has a Tanzanian Visa, and two sets of Kuwait stamps in it..
<9> so i packed the laptop into the hardcase and packed a bunch of clothing and hotel towels around it
<0> Lozvare: lets just say I'm budgeting extra time at the airport
<0> Menno: i'll fly to france and take the train
<9> otherwise i would have drove the rental car home
<2> yeah, that's what I'd do too
<0> at least I don't have stamps from Iraq and Afghanistan
<0> as it stands I'm thinking about driving down to seattle and flying out of seattle, so i can cross the border at the land crossings rather than at the airport
<2> yeah, that's a heck of a lot easier.. it's cheaper to fly out of US anyway
<2> you can get away with murder crossing at niagara falls.
<0> what amazed me is I didn't get the anal probe when I told Canada Customs that I was returning from Iraq and Afghanistan
<2> Well, they're only concerned with you bringing back contraband. :)
<2> guess there's not too much of value in those places...
<2> now, if you said you'd come back from Bolivia..
<0> lol
<0> oh well, good thing I dind't have my body armour in my bag
<11> Strider-: They didn't have the manpower to search something that large ;)
<12> Strider-
<11> I meant that about ---> what amazed me is I didn't get the anal probe when I told Canada Customs that I was returning from Iraq and Afghanistan
<6> hah
<0> boo, hiss
<12> would it make a topic?
<12> :o)
<2> cheeksy are you still updating your blog?
<12> Menno: last entry couple months ago
<13> Menno: well hey, they grow poppies ;)
<12> i lost my p***word to post more :o) and the owner was away
<12> owner of the site i mean
<12> i should start ranting about fashion senses here
<6> *yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaWWWnnnnn*
<6> cheeksy: hah
<2> Nanuq: hmm good point..
<2> cheeksy: heh, what are people there sporting?
<12> JJ: i am serious. as much as i am not much of a fashion person, i dont follow it really. but what they *spread* around here is terrifying
<12> i dont know why they think its beautiful when its so damn ugly.
<6> heh
<8> all fashion is ugly
<2> I don't like last season's fashions
<6> well.. when you mentioned ranting about fashin in -here-, it just seems a tad wrongly adressed, thats all
<2> we'll see if this season does better
<2> I really, really liked 2003 & 2004
<12> JJ: geeks also have fashion.
<8> well, worthless anyway
<12> ah there, Menno - geek - cares for fashion
<12> :o)
<12> im not talking brands ugh. i am talking simple clothes that are widely sold around
<12> i havent seen a decent pair of trousers in months.
<12> and i have pretty simple needs in clothes.
<14> guys who care about fashion are metro***uals, don't you think cheeksy?
<2> by "fashion" I mean what everyone is selling in a given season
<2> everyplace is the same, walmart, target, saks 5th ave... will be selling the same styles.
<12> tsokolat: hmmmm yeah but so-called machos also care what to wear
<2> http://www.rodd.us/taxfree/ <- I used to be metro
<6> cheeksy: true. but it rarely seems if anyone here feels interested in discussing it :P
<12> Menno: and... what happened?:o)
<2> Eh, when I'm not at work, I'm either underneath a car or on top of a bike... :)
<12> JJ: well, something for a change, besides _penises_ and _banging_ :o)


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