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<0> morphevs: hit tab!
<1> Lion-O ah its dhclient-script
<1> :)
<2> /etc/dhcp3/dhclient-enter-hooks.d
<0> there.
<2> rtfm also comes to mind here
<1> <--have been reading..
<2> it doesn't show
<1> Lion-O but maybe my router is weird
<1> i mean..windows is supposed to handle anything..
<2> /etc/dhclient.conf also looks very interesting.
<1> Lion-O well tried to change the lease settings
<1> that dindt do ****
<1> :/
<3> Remember I asked about netcetera?
<4> who?
<1> put in dns server and ip address..subnetmask and so on but nothing
<2> "On startup, dhclient reads the dhclient.conf for configuration instruc"
<0> whyzzyrd: *nod* sent them an email?
<2> "man dhclient"
<5> D-side: You.
<3> Within 20 mins of mailing their abuse department, I've got a grovelling email from the guy that registered the domain, apologising profusely, and asking us not to sue his ***.
<1> Lion-O well ihave set up the option domain-name-server with the right dns ip
<5> Anyone actually use Google Talk or Skype?
<0> whyzzyrd: hehe
<6> yeah
<1> but oh well..maybe ill jus use pump :)..ive had trouble with dhclient before
<0> jgaddis: I do use skype.
<7> jgaddis: i use skype
<5> I've been trying to find a use for 'em, but don't really know anyone else who uses it for anything.
<4> i use them both.
<5> I just call anyone I need to talk to.
<4> skype 2.0 in windows has decent video conferencing
<0> D-side: yeah.
<6> yeas.
<6> yes.
<4> and multiple user voice conferencing.
<0> D-side: we use that for studying ;)
<2> it looks to me as if this is just an issue of reading
<6> D-side: bet that only works with decent bandwidth though
<2> "request subnet-mask, broadcast-address, time-offset, routers, domain-name, domain-name-servers, host-name;". I wonder what'll happen if I remove 'host-name'.
<2> or 'domain-name-servers'.
<3> Lion-O: or routers?
<8> arrgh, need to compile mplayer from scratch it seem
<1> Lion-O hehe pump worked fine :)
<1> dns is fine
<1> hehe
<1> =)
<8> whyzzyrd: nice
<6> jgaddis: want to try my sjkype? "brickviking"
<9> compiling mplayer is a must all the time
<5> Viking667: I would, but don't have my headset here.
<9> gotta squeeze 100% performance out of it
<6> ahhh. No mic?
<6> safemode: waddaloadabull****
<5> Viking667: Nope.
<10> What does the "-r" in KDIR=/lib/modules/`uname -r` stand for?
<8> man uname
<4> jgaddis: got a BT cell phone and earpiece? get a cheapo usb BT adapter like i did.
<5> D-side: I got a nice headset, but it's in my office and not here.
<9> Actually it's not bull****, compiling it with optimizations avail rather than compiling it for widest range of support makes a measurable difference in decoding/encoding times
<5> D-side: Need to get a new phone, though... was kinda waiting to see what was happening w/ RIM/NTP first.
<9> unless your dist has precompiled versions with various cpu targets...
<3> aargh. the gooseberry.
<11> it's funny, I used to be a VoIP engineer, and I don't ever use VoIP
<11> probably because I know that VoIP + the public Internet => teh ****
<11> hell, I'm co-inventor on a patent for a technique to make it **** less over the public Internet ;)
<3> Liandrin: there's not a fat lot of use for it outside controlled networks. And even then, many places have no business case to go VoIP.
<12> but it's the BIG buzz!
<12> and there are salespukes everywhere telling gullible manglers that it's NEEDED
<4> Liandrin: what, STUN?
<12> even though those same manglers got along without it for the past 100 years, they STILL believe the salespukes
<11> D-side, perpendicular frame packing with FEC
<4> say that five times fast
<3> smsie: The glossier the better though.
<12> but you NEED voip
<11> I originally designed net.com's SHOUTip product to be network independent, but it evolved into VoIP only
<5> Mmm... Windows Server 2003 Enterprise + AD + DFS + WSUS
<3> smsie: for what precisely?
<12> never mind that the investment needed is astronomical and the savings aren't *really* all that big
<9> it'll be funny when all the VOIP phones have to be replaced in a couple years when ipv6 is forced into action from everyone using up all the IP's with VOIP phones.
<4> jgaddis: the DFS part there causes me some concern.
<12> whyzzyrd: they don't really make that clear. But it's definitely something you NEED!
<11> D-side, traditional frame packing in VoIP involved the aggregation of several sequential samples for one channel into a single packet, jacking the latency up and making packet loss extremely noticeable
<5> D-side: Why's that?
<11> D-side, we realized that it made more sense to aggregate samples from a single time slice across multiple channels into a single packet, thus not affecting latency and distributing the effects of packet loss into unnoticeable dropouts over several channels
<3> smsie: they enabled our ericsson MD-110 for IP recently. I can crash the IP phones by nmapping them. Make the calls drop to buggery by pinging them. I daren't nmap the main switch. It'd cause too much pain if it were to crash.
<4> jgaddis: general distrust of MS products. no reasonable points against it
<11> while still maintaining the overhead reduction
<4> Liandrin: interesting.
<5> D-side: Ahh, okay. =)
<5> D-side: I quite like DFS, actually.
<11> whyzzyrd, heh, SHOUTip's networking stack was designed to operate at maximum throughput. ;)
<13> Hi folks - anyone here know anything about coding for X/Gnome?
<4> jgaddis: i take it it just works
<5> D-side: When done properly, yes.
<9> i code GTK+
<12> whyzzyrd: but you NEED it! THINK OF THE CHILDREN! WAR AGAINT TERROR!
<4> jgaddis: hell of a disclaimer there.
<5> D-side: We use it for storing PC images (Norton Ghost) and replicating them across three other sites (over low-speed connections)
<11> whyzzyrd, imagine 240 channels generating 240 packets every 30 ms ;)
<4> oh, interesting
<5> D-side: That's because I've seen a doofus set it up and completely screw it up.
<5> D-side: He went back talking about how ****ty and b0rked DFS was.
<3> smsie: Ericsson's response was "no-one would ever do that to a phone, it's you bastard hacker types causing all the problems".
<12> whyzzyrd: I'll remember never to buy ericson then
<13> Cheers safemode, nothing like so deep level as that, actually it's really just a shell script problem! I can't direct a popup window to my display - I've tried Xdialog, xmessage and zenity
<11> smsie, a sound recommendation, from what I understand
<11> endgamer, the environment variable $DISPLAY must be set correctly for that to work
<13> My script works fine run directly, but not from crontab - and I've set DISPLAY!
<3> smsie: I did get that qualified afterwards, into an "If you actually are going to deploy any, rather than these 2, come down to our labs, and we'll replicate the problems, and fix em".
<11> endgamer, a non-interactive script (say, one run from a cron job) probably doesn't have DISPLAY set
<4> jgaddis: you're the one who outed him as a fraud i take it
<5> D-side: Pretty much, yeah.
<11> endgamer, is it running as the same user who's running X?
<13> Tried setting DISPLAY to 0:0, and nothing.
<11> endgamer, ":0.0"
<4> jgaddis: **** him anyway.
<3> smsie: These are the general problems I find with IP phones.: They have open ports on them. There's no need for any.
<12> whyzzyrd: they shouldn't be released with problems like that FFS!
<13> Ah yes, :0.0. Mistyped here, not in the script! <g>
<5> D-side: *shrug* He's not around anymore. Go figure.
<14> endgamer: doesn't chrontab run in batch mode without any display interaction possible?
<13> Run as the same user? You mean its chown?
<4> yeah, who saw that coming.
<3> 2: They provide no ability to turn off their p***-through ethernet ports.
<11> endgamer, er, no
<4> whyzzyrd: i dont know of any that do.
<12> whyzzyrd: soldering iron :)
<11> endgamer, I mean crontab running the job as the same user who started X (or logged in via xdm/gdm/kdm/whatever)
<3> D-side: I find that unacceptable.
<4> i dont blame you.
<13> Hmmm...how's that set?
<4> voip ****s.
<3> D-side: our policy is 1 port, 1 device. Fully managed.
<12> most technologies ****
<12> whyzzyrd: MAC locked?
<11> endgamer, well, if you were user joe and you ran "crontab -e", the job ends up in user joe's crontab
<11> endgamer, and cron will run the job as user joe
<13> Oh, yeah. That's how it's run, I always use crontab -e
<3> smsie: in certain places, yes. Most places, no. the overhead would be incredible.
<12> whyzzyrd: for a very large network, I guess yes
<11> endgamer, so how do you start X? "startx", or a display manager?
<13> Interesting thing is, if I set DISPLAY to something else it mails me a complaint, so I think DISPLAY is right.
<13> I use GNOME, it's Ubuntu.
<3> smsie: In certain places, we have idesks. The ethernet cables run straight into the desks, and into the back of the PC cartridge. No chance to unplug the buggers at all.
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