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<0> Evii: nobad. where do you get rack mount ch***is so cheap?
<0> A8V's via chipset though?
<1> whyzzyrd: Microdirect. They're Samcheer ones. I've managed racks of them before, they're fairly decent for the 120 quid price tag.
<1> whyzzyrd: Yeah. Looking at that now. ;)
<0> Evii: You going to manage powering that from a 300?
<0> Evii: and where are you putting that heat?
<2> wow. ad-aware only found 11 instances of spyware on this machine
<2> norton internet security -sure- is a good thing :P
<1> whyzzyrd: Yeah. Slightly worried about that. The units I was managing before with the same ch***is was using the same 300W PSU but with Prescotts and pretty much the same hardware (minus a disk).
<1> whyzzyrd: And they were fine. And they had beefier graphics cards in them.
<1> whyzzyrd: They're fairly decent, actually. They're not the most attractive things in the world, but then again, they won't be sitting on my desk, so I don't care. :)
<0> They take a oversize atx board?
<0> 4U, bugger me. That's *huge*.
<2> 4U? yeah, thats huge
<0> And they look like ****.
<2> heh
<2> anyway... ever since I got that new sata disk Ive been having instability issues
<0> looks much like a midi-tower on its side.
<2> I think I'll need to get a new PSU before anything dies :P
<1> whyzzyrd: The Antec ones are 18 quid more expensive but have a 450W PSU.
<0> Jostein: what've you got?
<3> I chmod 666 all files in /dev/snd because ALSA works afterwards, but if I reboot, the permissions are reset. Does anyone know what I could do rather than add each user to the audio group?
<2> I bought a 450W back in the days, but it started getting noisy, so I replaced it with some Chieftek thing
<0> Evii: and are a U smaller, which is always good.
<2> JRogerII: still havent figured that out, have you? :P
<1> whyzzyrd: Indeed.
<3> Hehe, I don't get much time with Linux anymore. I'm so damn busy working like over 50 hours a week
<0> Evii: they also look "designed" rather than "stuck together".
<1> whyzzyrd: Heh.
<1> whyzzyrd: I wonder if an ATI Radeon 8xAGP card would fit in a 2U case ;)
<3> I'm googling right now. I think a script is getting run at boot time, resetting the perms
<0> incidentally, MD's are going to have to replace the mainboard on that. It's "gone slow" and our diagnostic suite says something's badly wrong with it's SMPness.
<1> whyzzyrd: Sounds ugly.
<2> yay for spyware.
<4> what is this linux vista it needs to reboot whenever you move the mouse
<1> whyzzyrd: Ooh. The 2U comes with PCI risers. I could replace the basically redundant AGP card with a PCI one. Hmm. :)
<0> Evii: you'll need some bloody airflow through a 2U.
<0> They'll be noisy.
<5> heavy airflow.
<1> whyzzyrd: How would I handle sanely cooling those things?
<5> ****ing loud fans.
<1> Heh.
<2> fyal: this thing Im rebooting is dads WinXP :P
<2> spyware removal is so much fun
<1> I like the triple redundant 760W PSU Supermicro cases. But they're nearly 800 quid a go.
<3> Oh yeah, there's a PC in the garage here that's getting cleaned
<3> AVG managed to get damn near everything
<2> AVG had nothing on this
<2> ad-aware found lots of mess though
<3> I'll setup non-admin accounts for them to use so that less **** installes itself and explain the concept to the owner and it makes no sense to them.
<0> Evii: redundant supplies would be nice, but I suspect with PC, rather than server mainboards, you'll find other weak points.
<2> JRogerII: too bad my dad is the admin of this machine, requires admin and uses it for silly things :P
<6> Jostein install linux with an XP theme, he'll never know
<4> untill he wants to play world of warcraft
<3> if only they made sudo for windows
<2> shields_: duh
<2> shields_: this is the same guy that bitched at OO.org because it wasn't 100% like MS OFfice
<2> handing him linux would be -hell- for me
<4> tell him you'll install linux for free, but if he wants a proprietary os like windows you'll charge a proprietary install rate at $1000/minute
<2> fyal: and then some of us live in the real world
<2> you generally dont mistreat family
<4> mistreat family like forcing them to install windows for you?
<2> fyal: Im not reinstalling
<2> Im just trying to clean this mess up
<4> that's when you tell him mac os x has never had a spyware, trojan or virus in over 30 years
<2> He used to be a mac freak
<2> but switched to PCs due to job stuff
<4> then why doesnt his job clean his computer for him
<7> hi anybody on?
<3> I'm on your mom, haha
<3> I love lame responses sometimes
<8> Jostein: but, but, but....
<3> thank god I got my connection increased. Otherwise, it would take an eternity to update my system packages. I was getting so ripped off. I downgraded my connection to save some money. So, they charge me 30% less and decrease my speed 90%. What kind of **** is that?
<9> i loaded rh 7.2 with XP and kept lilo the boot loader.. but its not bootin in linux anyone ?
<10> Open the Trunk
<2> Lion-O: if it worked, you aint sober yet :P
<3> do you get the lilo screen?
<9> Cynic: u there ?
<8> Sanjoo: speak English
<9> JRogerII: nopes
<11> Sanjoo: RH 7* is ancient!
<8> Sanjoo: besides; RH7.2 is ancient.
<11> Lion-O++
<4> does the lilo screen say grub?
<2> fyal: did grub even exist in the RH7 days?
<9> Lion-O: i am speakin english.. i dont have any other version as yet
<3> then you need to boot using the CD, mount your FS under say /mnt/linux and then run chroot /mnt/linux lilo
<8> Sanjoo: since when is 'u' an English word?
<9> fyal: no
<2> Sanjoo: "u" != "you" != english
<9> :) ok
<8> Sanjoo: Anyway, sounds to me as if you need to use a rescue disk and check your lilo configuration. simple.
<2> Sanjoo: anyway. if lilo doesnt show up, thats because you havent installed it correctly
<8> "not booting in Linux" could mean just about anything.
<3> or, you installed linux first, then windows
<10> Jostein, your expression was incorrect
<10> Jostein: "u" != "you" == english
<4> or in more correct english 'youin's'
<2> Bock: logically speaking neither makes much sense :P
<11> heh true.
<2> Bock: unless english is a variable set to "you", "you" != english :P
<3> damn semantics
<8> english=u; export english # they'll never know what hit 'm
<8> oops, damn!
<2> heh
<12> heya Jostein , Lion-O
<2> gah. Ive run ad-aware twice. rebooted twice. norton AV 2004 still wont load
<2> Lets see if AVG cant find some more smut
<2> heya K_F
<12> heya yoz
<12> didn't see you there..
<11> ;) hidden as usual!
<12> hehe
<12> bottom of the userlist :)
<3> msconfig, check startup items
<11> yeah ;)
<2> JRogerII: I guess
<2> JRogerII: but MS config can mess up your system bad if you do silly things :P
<4> silly things like install linux
<2> NFW am I installing Linux on dads machine
<2> thats like asking for support calls 24/7
<2> if I can hand him your number, not mine, I'll consider it
<4> just tell him to come to #linux if he has questions
<4> that's where everyone else seems to send their dads
<2> and thats where we tell everyone to go to hell and read some documentation
<3> hehe, n00bs are not treated kindly here
<2> that's our way :P
<4> remember when they had a point system and each op would get 5 points for kicking a newbie, 10 points for kicking a luser, and the op at the end of the month with the most points would win
<3> It's not that we don't want to help them, we just don't want to help them when they don't RTFM
<3> Of course, I probably don't sound like I read the docs all the time, but I just ask in here and google at the same time.
<0> I've been close to that for a while.
<12> http://veraperez.com/archives/1283/ <- regarding the AOL pay to send email suggested
<12> suggestion*
<2> If AOL could make it an official policy not to be on the internet, it'd be even better
<12> hehe
<13> Microsoft tried to suggest something like this as well.
<12> anyways, my question still stand. any idea what the qmail access file is?
<2> Shadur: Im pretty sure if MS backed anything like this, it would be using a proprietary MS-locked in solution
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