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<0> again i say, wow.
<1> i just don't like kde. i won't rationalize it. i just don't like it for no reason
<2> isn't options one of the primary reasons to use linux
<1> same reason i like gnome. none whatso****ing ever
<0> ozzoll: i felt the same way for a long time, then i gave it a shot again
<3> ozzoll: but yes, it has eye candy. That doesn't mean that all KDE has to offer is eye candy.
<0> and liked it.
<2> I like KDE anyways
<2> but if you want to use gnome, feel free to do so
<1> most people make up their minds arbitrarily anyway. they justify it after the descision is made
<4> OxD: but you've been like that since that head injury, so... :)
<0> OxD: now, that said... i'm about to install ubuntu here. gnome here i come.
<3> ozzoll: So I simply think it is not fair to start a comparison like that.
<0> OxD: thats deep man.
<2> in my opinion GNOME tries to be too simplistic, and removes flexibility in doing so
<5> Lion-O: ok, i see your point



<1> D-side: yeah. thats how i roll
<2> if I want os x I get a mac
<5> Lion-O: i do feel kde has too much eye-candy by default then
<4> "twm r00ls" :)
<3> D-side: and I'm not angry, I simply dived in a little bit too late 8)
<1> see, i'd totally run osx on pc hardware
<0> me too.
<0> i'd run to the store right now if apple would release it for x86 hardware.
<0> non-apple x86 hardware i mean
<6> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c9/Goya_-_Saturno_devorando_a_su_hijo.jpg
<6> Saturn Devouring His Son (1819)
<2> I can't stand OS X myself
<0> really? any particular reason?
<5> i think it's quite nice
<4> Nanuq: cool, old gay pr0n
<6> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e0/Nudemaja.JPG
<5> i'd buy a mac if i could afford it
<2> D-side: well, for one thing I had to load ubuntu on a mac for it to work at all
<6> Zymurgy: and there's the straight version, also by Francisco Goya
<0> K_F: uhm.
<0> okay.
<2> D-side: but too much eye candy by default, and settings are too hidden
<3> Hmmm... I still wonder how OS/X would fare on Intel.
<0> no such thing as too much eye candy. :)
<2> oh, yes there is
<2> I can't stand eye candy, I disable everything I can
<2> heya Jostein
<6> Lion-O: would fare? fares nicely.
<0> Lion-O: its doing pretty well so far, with their new machines.
<0> all the core duo stuff i've used is great.
<3> ozzoll: oh, and for the record.. I seem to have dived in way too late, I just picked up your comments /after/ the eye candy remark.
<3> ozzoll: so kindly ignore that whole stuff if you'd be so kind 8)
<0> i want a core duo mini, and a macbook. badly
<5> Lion-O: it's ok, honest =P
<7> K_F: know how I mentioned I need to go to work at least to get some coffee?
<2> jup
<5> Lion-O: you made a good point anyway
<2> you stayed for a while?
<0> brb
<2> "need alcometer, driver claimed to have had only half a gl*** but it is unsure how large that gl*** was"
<3> Nanuq: hmm, I only read reviews whcih I don't trust in the overal.
<2> ... he blew green though
<7> K_F: I ... stayed for a while, left for a art exhibition, gut rather drunk, got back to work, picked up my stuff, including the latop, and conviniently forgot my coffee
<2> Jostein: rofl
<8> I'll take the mac mini...I'll avoid the MacBook like the plague
<9> Macs **** now
<2> at least wait a couple of revisions
<8> Tamahome: The mac mini is quite nice
<2> sure there are some bugs to get rid of :)
<7> K_F: anyway... I probably dont feel half as stupid as one of my friends does right now
<9> 90% of the software is still running emulated in Rosetta
<5> 90?
<9> yes, 90
<2> Jostein: what did he do?
<8> I wouldn't say 90%
<2> Jostein: got even more drunk?
<9> who the **** has ported yet?
<9> other than the stuff that's out-of-box with OS X



<8> Tamahome: Most of the important meat and potatoes apps have been ported
<9> I don't think Adobe has been ported yet
<5> are you sure? they released the x86 os x to developers ages before the public release so they could get a head start
<2> Tamahome: not to my knowledge
<9> ozzoll: but 3rd party vendors are notoriously slow on that front
<7> K_F: nah. not tonight. in short: he was on a business trip. he management approval for expenses, due to it being mostly a sales trip.
<2> Jostein: ... and?
<1> great
<1> my tivo's tuner died
<2> Jostein: a bit too much expenses?
<9> Travis: sux 2 be u.
<1> fantasterific
<5> Tamahome: i'd still take a powerpc mac over the intels
<7> K_F: those sales expenses included getting drunk, getting customers drunk, getting -quite- a few other people drunk, and getting ..... quite drunk himself in the process
<7> K_F: not a cheap tab
<5> Tamahome: just because apple always seem to have teething trouble with their new stuff
<2> Jostein: quite common, and....?
<7> K_F: but you know how judgement fails when you get totally hammered right? :P
<9> ozzoll: my G4/733 currently sits switched off, in the corner of my bedroom
<2> Jostein: so he blew a lot on chicks then, or?
<9> ozzoll: and yes, v1.0 is *always* an issue for Apple
<7> K_F: *cough*
<2> champagne for the rest et cetera
<7> K_F: literally
<2> Jostein: hehe, putas?
<7> K_F: He somehow decided that his current hotel wasn't good enough
<2> hehe
<7> K_F: and... got found himself another "kind of" hotel
<2> hehe, putas...
<2> short for prostituta :)
<7> K_F: just -try- to estimate the end tab, and I promise you will underestimate it
<2> well, my last trip in london I stayed on a 400 USD / night hotel or so, and that was an ordinary hotel
<2> so I'd presume it is more than that
<7> K_F: try 40k NOK
<2> ROFL
<2> (that is 6600 USD for non-norwegians)
<7> K_F: add to that he was too drunk to remember anything
<10> can anyone help me with a modem and mandrake 8.2 problem?
<2> inhibitor: upgrade
<2> Jostein: I have to say he deserves it
<10> upgrade?
<2> inhibitor: 8.2 is rather old
<8> 8.2 is ancient
<2> not only rather old, it is very old
<7> K_F: lets just say, he IS feeling rather stupid right now :P
<7> :P
<2> he should
<7> yeah.
<10> I know but I have 56k now and can't dl any newer mandriva ect.. so I'm using my old version I had.. I am a noob to linux as well.
<2> purchase a CD
<7> K_F: but for anyone not directly responsible for that tab, it's still freakin hilarious
<8> inhibitor: Well, it's time for you to learn a tough lesson...keep updated
<9> inhibitor: well, if it's a simple enough problem, it might be possible to help without upgrading
<2> inhibitor: or be damn sure to not connect it to the net
<9> but you weren't terribly specific
<8> Tamahome: I'm guessing the usual winmodem ****
<9> oh, ugh.
<2> hmm, two very drunk chicks are getting picked up
<10> I tried to use this 56k v92 us robotics but I didn't see my model at linmodem ect.. so I tried my external viking 56k modem like I used with redhat ages ago.. with mandrake 8.2 I get sorry, modem not responding
<7> K_F: heh
<7> K_F: ask them if they want 20k NOK :P
<2> Jostein: even I might have a chance on those, but they can't get out of them where they live
<2> too drunk to talk :)
<9> well, the external modem should have been OK, maybe your serial ports aren't configured yet?
<7> K_F: oh well
<10> in linux what port should I use with usb? would it be /dev/modem which I've tried or is it like com1 com2 ect?
<10> I hate being stupid at something
<9> oh USB...I don't know how USB->serial works
<2> Jostein: I even heard a name that is sort of familiar to me, rune stoeylen
<2> I'm very sure I've heard the name before
<7> K_F: despite as the fact that he has "lost all selfrespect", he hasn't lost all his humour
<2> hehe
<7> K_F: on the police radio?
<2> yeah


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