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<0> but now you have me wondering if I can install linux on this thing
<1> Steakk: Stick a GPS card in it, in case you lose it again ;)
<2> hm, looks like apache 's default logging option puts source ip as the first field rather than date, makes it harder to sort on date
<3> can be fixed - either sort on a subfield, or use cut and paste to reorder the fields. or awk of course
<4> RelDrgn: not to mention that the date is a very strange format.
<5> SpamapS: it's not in seconds since epoch then?
<4> no, gee that would be nice wouldn't it? ;)
<3> not microfortnights either?
<4> x.x.x.x - - [01/Apr/2006:02:41:38 -0800] "GET /j.....
<5> SpamapS: fantastic. There's not even sub-second accuracy in that..
<6> DaveHowe: *grin*
<6> a microfortnight isn't even very good resolution.
<6> in fact, it's about 1.21 seconds
<3> well yeah - but how else can you measure the speed of light conveniently in furlongs?
<5> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/06/05/thus_dutch_demon_sale/
<5> sux0r
<4> whyzzyrd: yeah its pretty ridiculous.. but its what we got.
<4> "Combined Log Format" or something like that.
<4> standard w3c thing IIRC
<2> awk could take it ;)
<4> At this point I'm just going to grep out each day and mergelog those. Maybe mergelog just couldn't handle merging 519 files at once. :-P
<7> hey, can anyone help me with this. error: possibly undefined macro: AC_MSG_ERROR... i think its an autoconf error... does anyone know how to resolve this?
<8> sklover: Why don't you check out http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html ? Maybe you'll learn how to ask more meaningful questions...
<8> just dumping errors and asking what is up is basicly a lousy way to ask.
<7> i appologize... this is my first time in this room
<7> can you still help me out
<5> sklover: if you ask a sensible question, perhaps.
<8> sklover: goto that URL, read it, and follow the hints its giving you.
<9> sklover: We can't help you without a lot more context. See that URL and try again.
<7> y im wracking my brain here, trying to figure some **** out... my last resort is IRC. i can usually get answers here, but in return i have to deal with pertentious ****s in a room designed to help people... and when i ask for help, they make me feel stupid... you all are ***whole.... get a ****ing life
<2> what command did you run to get that error?
<6> ..."in this room"?
<2> how about starting with that?
<7> thanks RelDrgn
<2> we don't even know what program you're talking about
<8> sklover: 1) This isn't an help channel (see the description). 2) If you are even too stupid to tell us what program you're having problems with how the **** do you expect us to know ?
<7> Lion-O: go ****yourslf
<3> a) we don't know what program you are compiling or what compiler you are using (b) WTF did you get the idea we were here to help YOU with YOUR problems from anyhow?
<10> should have just done that from the start when he called it "a room"
<5> schitzo: indeed, but it could have just been a terminology thing.
<10> terminology of the clinically stupid?
<3> <voice style="accent: peter sellers> did anyone order a rooooom?</voice>
<5> DaveHowe: you mean Inspector Clouseau?
<11> umm.... you forgot a closing quote after selelers
<3> whyzzyrd: indeed. wasn't it PS that played him?
<8> DaveHowe: irc style sheets? ;)
<5> DaveHowe: indeed it was
<12> Hey everyone... I need a good opinion on which distro to choose.
<8> mulder416: www.distrowatch.org, pick one you like best.
<12> Yeah, I need a more human opinion though
<11> I got some pretty good ideas of which ones not to use
<8> mulder416: those pages were written by humans too
<12> I'm looking for something that isn't too picky when it comes to hardware, if possible...
<12> And something that I can install programs in using a makefile
<11> umm... hardware isn't distro specific it's more kernel than distro
<13> (o)(0)
<12> Yeah, I know
<6> (.)(.)
<8> mulder416: it doesn't look that way.
<3> erm, that's all of them mulder416 - although its not advised, as it buggers up package management
<11> (.Y.)
<12> Hardware isn't even really my biggest concern, I can deal with that
<13> L:)
<8> Considering its /all/ Linux we're talking even the installation issue regarding source code isn't different.
<12> My main concern is installing stuff with makefiles
<8> mulder416: rtfm
<6> installing stuff with makefiles... ummm...
<12> Every distro I've tried has it's own little way of installing things
<8> mulder416: which is a good thing. But that doesn't mean that you can't use sourcecode.
<12> And none seem to support doing the normal, common way of using a makefile
<5> mulder416: that's called package management, except in the case of Slackware.
<3> indeed. gentoo is probably closest - almost everything there *is* a makefile :)
<8> mulder416: using a makefile is NOT the normal way.
<5> mulder416: That's because using a makefile isn't normal
<6> mulder416: well, if you don't want package management and want to do your own thing all the time, then you probably want gentoo...
<12> Yeah, I can deal with sourcecode later. Right now, I just want to get my feet on the ground first
<6> mulder416: but still check out distrowatch
<8> mulder416: If you insist to continue this display of stupidity I suggest going to #linuxhelp. Otherwise; www.distrowatch.org and clue up.
<11> why not rpm mulder, seeing as how your new... probably a good idea
<5> mulder416: what do you think you'll have to install using source code?
<12> Hmm... okay, haven't tried gentoo yet
<3> ah, the Golden Age when slackware was still considered a real distro
<5> mulder416: there's not much that isn't packaged for most distros.
<6> Oh, mulder416, by the way... distrowatch is written by humans. We're all bots here, so you should not trust us...
<5> DaveHowe: you mean back there, just after SLS..
<8> places like /usr/local are there for a very good reason.
<12> Well, I've tried rpm's but can't really get them to work either. It's a documentation issue, every readme and install how to I've come across says use a make file
<11> DaveHowe: I still abuse Slackware :\ seems pretty real, 1/2 RPM and 1/2 pkgtool.. hmm
<3> whyzzyrd: no, I mean a idealized vision of a bloody awful past reality, seen though rose tinted gl***es....
<6> http://www.arouse.net/despair-linux/slackware.jpg
<3> SSigSeg: slackware isn't a distro, its a kernel with pretensions...
<5> DaveHowe: I remember back when I used slackware
<11> whyzzyrd: it's my deoderant, onion garlic musk (for men)
<12> whyzzrd: Anything that I've found that seems to be of actual use has no packages or anything, just source
<3> whyzzyrd: so do I - and that's why I appreciate apt so much :)
<12> And I'd like to edit the source and screw with it, hence using linux ion the first place
<5> DaveHowe: precisely.
<13> hah
<5> You ought to see some of our solaris admins, once they see apt, and how easy it makes installation of things.
<11> I find the make install usefull, but I find make uninstall redundant and incomplete
<8> whyzzyrd: its also available for Solaris, been so for quite a while ;)
<1> DaveHoweSSigSeg: slackware isn't a distro, its a kernel with pretensions <-- s/pretensions/dillusions
<5> Lion-O: they don't use it..
<3> solaris has a package manager - its not terrible, but not wonderful either
<8> whyzzyrd: logical. Thats because you basicly don't need to install stuff that often, only keep it up to date with patches.
<6> slackware isn't a distro so much as a collection of something that sombody sneezed on to their keyboard.
<5> Lion-O: which take a whole day to apply on my workstation.
<8> whyzzyrd: but if you're using repositories like blastwave you'll have the same ease of use.
<11> hmm... I've had nothing but success with slack, although... my installs are so thin if it wasn't for the slackware prompt at logon you'd have no clue what distro it was
<6> "pretentious" is the guy with the Mac G5 and three 20" displays...
<14> no
<14> thats a trendwhore
<6> and Falchion knows who I'm talking about.... :P
<15> "more money than sense"
<14> you dont need fancy hardware to be prentetious
<15> Jostein: i prove that every day.
<14> heh
<11> i'm waiting for a distro that uses cshell instead of bash, but that kind of talk usually gets me kicked
<10> SSigSeg: most all of them come with c-shell
<14> its not really that hard to change the default shell either :P
<6> SSigSeg: wrong channel. You want #freebsd :P
<1> Ka-bar: Tom has more monitors up.
<1> he has 4 or 5.
<1> Jostein: tcsh :P
<6> Falchion: Tom has more monitors than Jeremy? How'd he manage that?
<1> A cool stand.
<14> :3
<14> errrr.
<1> I have a penis. I win!
<16> Falchion: you do? you must have it inverted or something... *ducks*
<1> Libolt4: I hate you. Meanie.
<16> it's okay we still like you
<14> Falchion: you may have a penis, but when you have tits as well, it doesnt really help :P
<13> haha
<1> Jostein: Yeah, which is why i can't figure out why you video'ed yourself for meatspin.
<14> Falchion: you lost me there, but Im sure it was a great insult *grin*
<17> alquien em puede ayudar con squerimail
<5> Linux_Peru: Are you from Darkest Peru?
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