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<0> it's not qualified as to which of the three flavours, so all, I presume
<1> Which makes 1.0 strict prefered over 1.1 then :/
<0> unless you have an environment that supports 1.1, yeah
<1> Looking at the majority of browsers in use, that won't happen until hell freezes over :P
<0> the only reason that I understand for 1.1's existence is to specify a flavour of HTML that MUST be XML-conformant
<2> whoever invented the banana needs to be shot
<0> XHTML 2.0 is going to screw everything up :|
<0> for the better, IMO, but there's no backwards compatability to speak of
<2> i hate it when the top gets all munched when you try to open it
<0> I hope so :|
<2> Liandrin: smart move :P
<0> I refuse to taint any of my systems with beta IE
<0> been there, done that, never doing it again
<1> Liandrin: it certainly doesn't know about css3, which only leaves me to wonder how well css2 is supported this time
<3> you need WGA to get IE7, don't you?
<0> tonsofpcs, WGA is hardly an obstacle
<1> tonsofpcs: Isn't it a freely available download? And does it matter if you need WGA, since you're using a legal windows installation anyway, right? :P
<3> Liandrin: I didn't say it was an obstacle. Coma- yes, it does matter. Yes, I only have legal Windows installations, but that doesn't mean that I want an application running that calls home every 5 minutes
<3> just what I need, more of windows using up my resources
<1> tonsofpcs: But microsoft spying on you is only for the good! Imagine all the advantages and support you'll get from big brot^W^Wmicrosoft
<2> windows vista takes up several gigs on install i've heard
<2> you have to question that really
<3> no
<1> tonsofpcs: But it comes with loads of shiny stuff
<1> s/tonsofpcs/twonkbat/
<2> Coma: :P
<2> Coma: well if it's shiny then it's ok
<1> And all those wonderful new security measures in place, that certainly counts for something, right?
<2> if they work, sure :)
<2> but that's for time to tell...
<1> For what I've read/heard, it works too well and now microsoft is begging people not to turn it off because it's bloody annoying
<1> Like removing a file asks you 7 times for confirmation and the like
<2> i read something about their new permissions causing choas
<2> loads of "ok"
<2> s/choas/chaos
<2> still, good finger exercise :)
<1> I don't know what's worse though, the overly secure approach, or the ability to turn it all off again, rendering it as secure as w95 again
<2> i'd take the overly secure approach just so that i can see some new complaints from windows users
<2> i don't know how m$ can mess things up so badly when rebuilding their security models when they must surely know about the *nix security model
<1> Yeah, but a windows user's modus operandi is running everything as administrator just to avoid annoying stuff like "run as", so certainly all the new security bits will get turned off
<2> if it was me, i'd say enough was enough and it's time to learn from those who have proven they can get it right
<1> twonkbat: The unix security model's over 30 years old, so that can't be any good :P
<2> you don't change what doesn't need to be changed :)
<1> Lol, like that'll ever happen. Microsoft knows best and will never admit to anythign else
<2> to be honest, if m$ did get it right, so many people would be out of work
<2> all those troubleshooters and such
<4> yeah the old security model is rubbish, we need a new one, lets become hermits and have b2 secure rabbit holes </obscure buttload reference>
<4> antivirus companies probably pay Microsoft large percentages of their profits
<1> twonkbat: So that'd allow them to switch to something a little more productive, instead of carrying water to the ocean
<2> Coma: they could make pyramids instead :D
<4> a pyramid scheme, neat
<1> Or work like cotton pickers, I imagine
<2> i just want someone to ban m$ from making anything else other than software and i'm happy
<2> i don't want to see the m$ 747 on the tarmac when i board
<1> Haha, "Apple Phones Home, Too"
<0> twonkbat, eh? don't you dare try and get between me and my M$ keyboard
<1> How intriguing
<2> Liandrin: :P
<1> twonkbat: They ought to stick to non-os stuff, like office and the other things they produce
<2> Coma: yeah, i agree
<2> Coma: "well lads, you had your chance and you were pretty bollocks"
<2> oh my, it's almost 9 now
<1> Oh fun, ever since 10.4.7 osx seems to "call home", too. It's just not as invasive as WGA yet
<5> Coma: Argh.
<2> would it be enough to just block the outward port?
<2> or ports
<1> twonkbat: Then I'd be stuck without webaccess :P
<2> oh god, it uses that old trick
<2> bastards
<1> Makes me wonder how people still using dial-on-demand think about this
<2> i could do with a kebab
<1> Heh, luckily, this is a lot easier to disable than wga
<5> Coma: How about blocking destination/port?
<6> hey Coma, Shadur
<1> Shadur: Then I won't be able to visit anything on www.apple.com anymore ;)
<1> Evening Emerson
<0> oh, the target is www.apple.com/http? :|
<6> Coma: how goes it?
<1> Emerson: Very well, despite the increasing humidity
<6> i hear that
<1> It's going to be fun later on I reckon, with a ****load of hail and thunderstorms coming
<2> i'm looking forward to the winter already
<0> thunderstorms == good
<2> i can't stand the summer
<1> I just hope we get it over with before I go home. I'd hate to give up a nice bikeride
<5> Coma: Oh, good. This heat's been killing me.
<2> Coma: you ride often?
<1> Shadur: It's the last day of the heatwave anyway
<1> twonkbat: As often as I can, but with a rather busy social life, that's not as often as I'd like ;)
<2> i used to ride my bike lots until the back wheel was stolen
<7> man this is so close to working. can't get X to find the second screen (tv) of a dual display
<1> twonkbat: Now how could you let that happen?
<8> XyZzY: is it on a second PCI id?
<2> Coma: i forgot to tie the cable around the back wheel before i left
<2> Coma: came out from work and the bike looked lower than normal...
<1> twonkbat: Heh, that's asking for it alright. Got a frontwheel stolen once in the same manner
<2> i just use my car now that i can drive
<7> whyzzyrd: no same card
<1> Nowadays, I just don't leave it anywhere unattended anymore
<2> but that's almost ready to die
<8> XyZzY: what card's it?
<2> the git will only go into gear correctly when it feels like it
<7> whyzzyrd: eVga 6200 nvidia geforce with current nvidia drivers
<2> and when you're at a junction, needing first as soon as possible with a pissed of lorry behind you, c4 and a large empty space come to mind
<0> twonkbat, haha
<2> i think it's the clutch or sommat but i haven't got the money to find out
<7> whyzzyrd: try again
<4> w3m is not as much fun as lynx, when you press q in lynx to quit, then choose not to lynx responds with "Excellent!!!", w3m does nothing interesting
<9> whoops... brb.
<9> right. what's difference between "Platform Edition" and "Enterprise Edition" of Sun's App server?
<10> Viking667: one digit in the price?
<0> Nanuq, you're up early
<10> Liandrin: no I'm not
<10> Liandrin: I've been getting up at this hour since January
<0> Nanuq, whyfor do you rise so early?
<10> Liandrin: unless you mean relative to when you last heard from me
<10> Liandrin: because I'm to be at $work by 07:00?
<0> Nanuq, oh, ick
<10> Liandrin: and, on compressed, stay to 17:00
<0> Nanuq, more ick
<10> but it's a three day week for me
<10> okay, get clean now
<11> hiya
<12> sorry, reflex.
<11> more like "sorry, fetish"
<12> If I'm to be accused of having a fetish, I may as well keep punching. ;)
<11> lol
<11> yeah :D
<12> tavi-san: thinko f it as conditioning ;)
<11> heh :)
<12> I did sparr with this finnish dude ones that kept taking hits to the groin, without me knowing that he lacked a cup (cups are required at practice), and when I realized it and asked if it didn't hurt, all he said was "yupp", in that cl***ing inhaling-Gargoish way (which is the Finnish way too), and kept going..
<11> lol that is kinda sick :|
<12> some of those guys are just huge and docile (although not stupid)...
<11> docile aint stupid
<12> just able to absorb so much **** and punishment without visibly reacting that you sometimes wonder..
<11> it's just very calm and not giving a **** about others
<11> wlfshmn: but you know the saying: "the calm cat scratches you the most"
<11> or worst
<11> my spelling aint that hot todya
<11> only had like 2 cups of coffee
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