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<0> Revie !
<1> i pay 9.95 for 6m/512k
<2> tojoe: heh strange.
<3> Revenger: would that I could here.
<4> tojoe: I wouldnt mind fiber, but I'll have to settle for very A ADSL :P
<5> or well, a1 has rented some fibres to connect their gsm/umts towers
<2> Revenger: and that's where?
<2> Revenger: .ch?
<1> .de
<2> oh.
<1> unlimited.
<2> Revenger: do most isp use telekom lines there?
<1> yeah
<4> Revenger: your telekom's does things properly
<5> i guess it's easier in .de
<2> deutsche telekom is far cheaper then..
<5> a major city has more inhabitants/potential customers than the whole of .at
<4> Revenger: I remember when I worked in a telecom-equpment factory. Only the germans insisted on that -everything- should be using shileded wires
<1> i pay 9.95 for the traffiv
<1> and 19.95 for the line
<2> tojoe: I agree there..
<4> Revenger: the rest didn't care. I guess now that we have DSL and what not, that pays of :P
<1> and i have extras.
<5> the really funny thing is here with the cheap connections where you have to pay for excess traffic
<1> like free norton firewall + av, free unlimed voip into the german network...
<4> tojoe: yeah. that ****s.
<5> there are so many people going for the cheapest connection and then have to pay like 400,- addtl. traffic instead of getting a connection which is 10,- more but includes all the traffic they need
<4> tojoe: any ISP offering limited BW ****s IMO
<2> Jostein_: tell me ;)
<2> Jostein_: I got 2,5 Gigs atm ;)
<2> mart1: we don't care
<4> yoz: a day? a month?
<2> Jostein_: ahahah a month ;)
<6> sorry yoz...
<4> yoz: NFW. That's not even enough to cover my basic TV show needs
<2> Jostein_: 8) *nod*
<2> Jostein_: for 33 EUR a month
<5> Jostein_ yeah, but i wouldnt know how to offer all unlimited access without going bancrupt in no time
<7> unlimited use is problematic from the provisioning side
<4> tojoe: in norway no ISP seems to be having troubles surviving on unlimited BW
<2> Jostein_: s/.no/.se same thing there as far as I know.
<4> yoz: *nod*
<7> I have fairly conservative DSL at the moment, and I have more bandwidth now than the first ISP I worked for
<3> Liandrin: I don't see why. Even if you offer unlimited, there's only a certain percentage of users will flat-out it all day.
<7> of course, that was back when the fastest modumb was 28k8 and anything faster meant dedicated lines or ISDN
<7> whyzzie, it's not the average you have to worry about, it's the peak
<3> Liandrin: that's why you offer unlimited access at FE: 8192/834, with 50:1 contention.
<7> whyzzie, the majority of your customers will spend the majority of their time idle, but e.g. late afternoon/early evening, when -everyone- is on...
<5> hmm.. 700 customers with >2M each on a 30mbit downstream...
<3> Liandrin: and the user is only guaranteed 1/50th of their line speed at any time.
<7> whyzzie, I suspect 50:1 is a bit high, on 8 Mbps DSL that only gives you a guarantee of slightly better than ISDN
<3> Liandrin: 50:1 is what standard DSL contracts specify here.
<3> Liandrin: My business-grade line is 20:1, per exchange, but seeing as I'm the only business-grade connection on my exchange ;-P...
<5> i havent seen a contention ratio specified anywhere here
<4> not here either
<7> nor here
<3> There must be one but.
<5> only thing i can say is we still have 10-0% ressources free, depending where you look :p
<5> err 90-0
<7> whyzzie, I imagine so, and I bet it would take me months to find it out
<5> i wonder, even the rtr doesnt require us to mention contention anywhere
<8> hey dudes... got a problem with my pcmcia card that i find difficult to solve , the card wants to use IRQ 0 but obviously kernel refuses ... any idea how to state which irq to use ? /etc/pcmcia (exlude irq 0) doesnt seem to work ... need some help
<8> anyone ?
<9> zazaza: modinfo <module> might help you
<9> should tell if there is a param to p***
<8> hmm...
<10> maybe there is some parameter to specify in the module
<11> Hrmm...I need to figure out how to block an outgonig port via my WRT
<12> Steakk: hope you flashed openwrt on it
<12> Steakk: hi :P
<11> OxD: I prolly should flash open to it
<11> I have 2 WRT's linked together, both with stock firmware now
<11> HI OXD!
<12> although, i hear the newer ones don't work with it
<12> so YMMV
<11> YMMV?
<12> your milage may vary
<11> and I know the newer ones dont work with it, which is why I ebay'd the 2 I have so I was sure I got the right models :)
<12> ah good
<12> yeah i feel the urge to stockpile the little ****ers
<11> Travis: http://jason.steakk.com/newsetup/ <-- my new setup at home
<12> why sure i'd like a fully capable ipsec endpoing, wap, and router for $70
<12> s/poing/point/
<12> oh and vlan aware switch. forgot about that
<12> Steakk: slowest dns ever
<11> afraid.org
<11> its free, whatdda expect?
<12> oh god that must be noisy as hell
<11> actually, no...its not
<12> heh thank god
<11> the noisest PC is my workstation, and thats only because that one has 8 fans
<12> i need a new desktop so bad
<12> i also need a desk, however. which is the bigger holdup than the machine
<11> CPU fan, GPU fan, 2 80mm fans in the back, 3 80mm fans in the front, and 1 80mm fan on the side of the case
<12> i know what i want in a computer but nfi what i want for a desk
<13> do you speak french i need help please?
<12> TiPo: #linuxfr
<11> I just bought an eVGA GeForce 6200 256MB DDR 8X AGP card yesterady...good lil toy
<13> ok tanks
<11> okay, time to kill the network by upgrading my firmware
<11> brb
<11> cute...the usual 'upgrade are failed'
<11> hrmm
<2> steakk: I use afraid.org myself but it doesn't seem that slow at least what I notice here..
<11> might be a latency in one of the backbones here
<11> hrmmm...the router wont take any sveasoft or openwrt firmware images
<11> brb
<2> Steakk: get hyperwrt ;)
<2> who needs linux on the wrt ;)
<2> zazaza: satisfied?
<14> what file do I got to edit with vi to c the users ?
<14> vi /etc/???
<15> wp99: p***wd
<14> cool
<16> aw hell.
<4> lol
<2> gotta love horde3
<4> siglite: now what?
<16> the wife just decided we're getting a dog.
<2> siglite: hah
<17> awee....
<4> siglite: does that mean you'll need to get up 30 mins earlier each day now? :P
<17> you got your guitar and now soon a dog
<16> **** no
<14> how can i set a new p***word for root when I'm logged in as root ?
<16> I told her, the housebreaking responsibilities etc.. are HER PROBLEM
<15> wp99: p***wd
<16> wp99: man p***wd
<17> siglite yeah it'll be sleeping in your bed
<18> wp99: Wouldn't it be better to allow the actual owner of the box to set their own root p***word?
<4> siglite: a dog is a -helluva- lot of work
<16> yup
<4> siglite: I think dogs rock, but hell... I would have seriously considered if I had the time for one
<4> siglite: it'll take almost as much time as an actual kid :P
<15> Depends muchly on the dog, really
<4> siglite: and there's no way she'll do it all herself, even if she says she will do so
<16> oh I know
<16> the hell she won't
<19> uh oh. wifey wants a pooch?
<16> she says she's getting one today.
<15> siglite: Pound puppy?
<16> I'm not sure.
<17> two words
<16> I think it's a future pound puppy if someone doesn't take it in.
<17> haha
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