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<0> K_F: that's not an ISP, that's a blowsgoats.
<1> not only incoming, but ougoing as well
<1> turds..
<1> trying to remember how to make qmail listen to an additional port
<0> K_F: Get a better ISP.
<1> hehe
<2> K_F: telelnor?
<1> UPC
<2> oh
<2> K_F: Wouldnt know if telenor blocked outgoing would you?
<2> K_F: outgoing for anything apart their smtp server, that is
<1> Jostein_: no idea
<3> bah a blocked 25 would be the worst case here..
<0> Jostein_: I bet it'll be in their conditions of service or somesuch.
<4> yoz whats wrong with inode?
<2> K_F: oh well.. Ill find out soon enough. I just dont hope so, because I like my pop3+gpg setup I have at gmail :P
<2> whyzzie: only condition I saw, was that you may not have commercial servers on their net
<5> Question: How can I find out what the IP address of my linux server is from the console?
<1> I just added a REDIRECT to iptables
<3> tojoe: adsl is expensive..
<6> icenyne: ifconfig
<5> Question: How can I find out what the IP address of my linux server is from the console?
<3> tojoe: the traffic limit is ****y as well.. and since xDSL is not available yet, I switch to linea7 ;)
<4> ah
<7> hm
<7> should i shave or give all my neices and nephews whiskerburn
<3> tojoe: for nearly the same price I pay inode, linea7 gives me a static ip, 6 GB more and fair use. The difficult part was to get rid of inode ;)
<0> qemu reminds me of having a 486
<0> yoz: 6GB more?
<0> yoz: you have traffic limits?
<4> yoz yeah, their contract duration **** big time
<3> whyzzie: ;) austria ****s when it comes to traffic. adsl flat rates are ****ing expensive
<8> stoneage.
<7> mmn
<7> japan...high speed internet
<0> yoz: Erm. my line's a business grade one, which is nutty expensive, but work pays.
<0> yoz: but you can get 2048/256 flat rate for ~35EUR/mo from a decent ISP like demon.
<3> whyzzie: my work (college) wouldn't pay my inet connection 8)
<2> docfu: shuddup! >:)
<3> whyzzie: bah that would cost 80 EUR here..
<0> yoz: they want me to use my line for work, they pay for it.
<3> whyzzie: there is a point..
<4> yoz move to st. veit, 2048/384 for 46,-
<7> whyzz 2048 what?
<7> 2mbit?
<0> docfu: yup. it's as fast as you can get in .uk in areas that aren't unbundled.
<2> I'll pay ridiciously for BW (/month for 3000/350), but they -do- install the physical line for free
<3> whyzzie: 1024/256 around 8 GB fair use would cost ~40 EUR in austria ;)
<7> whyzzie i'll have 12 or 26 in 10 days depending =)
<2> so in the end, I hope I'm saving money on my current deal
<0> docfu: The problem is that a: I live in a village. b: I want to use demon, because a: I have for years. b: They don't ****.
<3> tojoe: 8) and still is expensive compared with other countries.. 2048/384 for 46 EUR
<4> in cities bandwidth is cheap, 5mbit/s ymmetrical fibre for 170,-/month + a /28 business grade
<2> and NO traffic limits as far as I know. unless they wrote that with 1 point font somewhere :P
<7> yeah i think its cool that the UK's coolest internet company is 'demon'
<7> AK47-doank yeah i got a couple
<2> tojoe: I envy you :P
<4> and 20km further into urban area ist 1k for 2mbit
<0> docfu: I believe it's still the case that all their dialup numbers had a 666 in them.
<9> mmmmmmm
<7> whatcha want? crack? ice house? samual adams? KY jelly?
<4> s/ist/it's/
<0> docfu: demon are nowhere near as good as they used to be, but there's no one better.
<3> there an OU EX DI
<2> oh noes. the l33t hacker was kicked from our l33t channel
<10> 'lo whyzzie, docfu, Jostein_, yoz
<3> hi there Travis
<7> whyzzie well all of the providers are going to **** now that they have you install software packages with advertizing to add to their profits
<7> SBC yahoo is that way, i'm dreading what loopholes i'll have to do when i get to japan
<4> yoz we're just waiting for our partner to replace all the return path amps so we can use docsis everywhere and go up with bw again
<3> tojoe: ah in st. veit you mean?
<4> yep
<3> tojoe: what about your own conection at home?
<0> docfu: I doubt people'd stand for that here.
<4> inode...
<3> tojoe: xDSL I take it?
<4> mhm
<2> OxD: hey!
<3> I wonder why the **** austria is that expensive when it comes to inet connections copared with other eu countries..
<10> Jostein_: how goes it?
<4> i wouldnt have traded in my aon complete for ****ing adsl
<3> aon is TEH ****
<11> $29.95/mo for 3000/800 DSL, here
<2> OxD: OKish I'd say.
<2> OxD: Im flat broke now... But next month Im getting a raise. That'll be good :P
<3> Nanuq: ~27 EUR hah that*s what we get here in 5 years perhaps.
<10> always good :)
<2> WTH is aon anyway?
<0> anyone any idea of how to get the config back out of the kernel? I STR that cat /proc/config.gz was the way, but it's no there.
<11> yoz: that's CAD, btw
<4> Nanuq for 29,95 i couldnt even get a 3mbit line wholesale, not even talking about traffic
<12> 'lo
<3> Jostein_: austria online ;)
<13> whyzzie, that was an addon patch that I don't think ever got integrated
<2> yoz: lol
<13> whyzzie, or if it did, it needed to be enabled
<2> yoz: that just sounds like bad karma to me
<0> Liandrin: no, it's in my own built kernels, just no debians stock one.
<7> wooo
<2> OxD: indeed. too bad I have a major power bill coming my way *grin*
<13> whyzzie, if not enabled, then you can't get the config back
<7> liandrin 7 cds to go
<0> Looks like an lspci, a wing and a prayer.
<10> Jostein_: i know how that goes ;)
<11> tojoe: that's unlimited transfers, one static ip + a /30 routed to this IP, and with reverse delegation
<4> whoa
<11> tojoe: used to be able to say clued tech people, but that changed :P
<2> OxD: I try to look at it this way... It's my raise that gets eaten, not be that gets kicked out XD
<10> Jostein_: i don't want to know how much lower my power bill would go if i wasn't a geek
<0> woo. 440FX, PIIX3 and an RTL-8029.
<4> iirc we're going to pay 2k eur for our new 20mbit line
<13> Nanuq, my ISP's frontline helldesk staff are idiots, but if I yell loudly enough I usually get put through to someone with a clue
<3> tojoe: right.. and that makes me wondering about the ****y austrian prices..
<14> good morning all
<3> jason!
<14> yoz!
<4> +3k5 ripe fees...
<11> Liandrin: well, it _was_ a local outfit that serviced Toronto/Ottawa/Montreal
<11> Liandrin: they _did_ have clued staff. there was a snafu with Bell (CRTC = useless pig****ers) and the customer base was bought up by Cybersurf.
<13> Nanuq, I've got 1.5M/768k, a static, and a /29
<0> I can't get better than a 256 up.
<6> later
<13> Nanuq, it's -supposed- to be costing me something like $60/mo, but the actual amount they've been charging is about half that
<11> whyzzie: hey, 256 mm is pretty good ;)
<4> yoz the problem is getting to the customers, telekom wants 1k8 for a 4mbit leased line excluding traffic - for the same amount one can get 10mbit including traffic from oebbtel, but they're not available everywhere
<13> when I lived in northern VA I would've been happy with 256k
<15> Anyone got Linux running on a Sony laptop? I've got the Fn keys working for sound and lcd brightness. I was wondering if anyone has been able to use the Fn key to switch to an extenal monitor? thanks.
<13> I lived in this annoying pocket of nothing-better-than-ISDN
<11> Liandrin: the local outfit was charging extra for the static IPs, but since the switch, it's been $29.95 for it all.
<4> yoz and you have to get from the train station where their pop is to where you actually need it
<11> Liandrin: this is the problem with that spot in .sk.ca
<11> Liandrin: long distance to everything, and cable 'net isn't cheap
<3> tojoe: is oebbtel an own network from bb?
<13> Nanuq, cable 'net was in its infancy when I was in noVA
<13> Nanuq, so I spent two years on the far end of a 28k8 dialup
<11> Liandrin: I'll just stay in this ****hole, I suppose.
<0> Good thing my works' got a telco license
<0> we run our own fibre round our own ducts.
<4> yoz yes and no, thay have fibres buried along major train routes
<3> Nanuq: here some ADSL prices in austria: http://www6.inode.at/inode.at/privat/internet/adsl-privat/
<3> Nanuq: and they're not fun compared with other countries ;)
<3> tojoe: ah I see..
<8> pfft.
<4> our partner has a city-wide fibre network, and not a single fibre is in use yet
<3> Revenger: *nod* pffft they ****
<12> Revie !
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