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<0> but, then.. I enjoy living ;)
<1> "I think you might have a problem" :P
<2> whats the cmd to rename a dir?
<0> mv
<2> mv dir1 dir2?
<1> fredk_: well... If we see a car followed by a huge crowd on the news somewhere next week I'll think of you ;)
<1> K1llserv: "man mv"
<2> it wont delete the included files right?
<0> right
<2> thank u
<0> ok am heading out :P
<1> fredk_: back to your customers? ;-)
<1> re Revenger ;) hmm, almost looks like a stutter
<3> re re re re re
<4> or the theme song to some cheesy 80's cartoon: re re re re REVENGER! He's our hero! He's awesome! It's re re re re REVENGER!
<5> may i ask what kind of hash is the linux p***word:) md4 md5 or something else... i am newbie



<4> babylon6: depends on what you set it up to be
<3> do not ask me to wear a mask and a silly coat and sing "UP! UP AND AWAY!"
<1> RelDrgn: hmm, I know a lot of 'm but that doesn't ring a bell ;)
<5> i have gnu running up...
<1> RelDrgn: now there's an idea...
<5> any1... any idea
<4> babylon6: yes, yes, but how did you set it to store the p***words?
<5> have no idea... i didn't set anything...
<5> i just clicked most of it on next:)
<5> i can see the p***word and it is crypted....
<4> then neither do we, since these days PAM can do just about anything you want to the p***words
<5> so the best idea is to reinstall all over again ha::)
<1> nah, the best idea is to grab an admin guide and read up on the subject.
<5> where can i do that?
<5> find admin guide
<4> babylon6: www.tldp.org
<1> babylon6: usually the webpage of the distribution. That and www.tldp.org. What is it you're trying to do anyway ?
<5> 10x
<4> babylon6: you can also try reading PAM's documentation, which should be somewhere around /usr/share/doc/*pam*
<4> note that playing with PAM can hose your ability to login ;)
<5> i don't know how there is a way to crypt the p***word and no way to decrypt it...?
<1> its a one way hash.
<1> so its safe to simply keep the ***umption that you don't decrypt it, only reset it if needed.
<5> oh i screww..ed it already:)
<5> isn't there any program that would decrypt the hash???
<5> i already spent a day configuring the installation for the server
<1> babylon6: search google and find out yourself. Why would you even want to bother anyway ?
<1> babylon6: If your p***word is lost you can use a rescue disk or cd to reset it. simple.
<5> thanks anyway... 10x god there is a re-install mode... thanks people
<4> whoa, there are 10 gods now?
<1> ten times god... as if we don't have enough problems.
<6> RelDrgn: That all?
<4> pw: or ten times as many as there were a while ago?
<6> RelDrgn: There's actually less gods now that there used to be
<6> Which is an interesting phenomenon in itself
<7> PolarWolf: thanks for your mail..
<6> Or rather, there are less gods people actually believe in :)
<1> PolarWolf: I dunno about that.. there are less *commonly known* gods. I'm sure you have people still believing in the ancient gods 8)
<6> Lion-O: Oh, there's people who believe in Zeus?
<6> yoz: No biggie
<1> PolarWolf: wouldn't surprise me after all the hercules and xena series.
<6> Lion-O: Hmm
<6> Wasn't Jedi an official religion somewhere too?
<8> PolarWolf: in the UK Jedi is an official religion
<8> PolarWolf: lots of people filled in the census with "Jedi" as their religion. Once there's more than a certain proportion of the population who have a religion, it's "official" in some sense I don't really understand
<1> now hope that Lucas won't try to cache in on using a registered trademark ;)
<1> s/cache/cash/
<6> smsie: Weird
<6> Doesn't there need to be some form of official religious curriculum and a God to believe in to qualify as religion?
<1> PolarWolf: naah. What if you have a religion without a god? I saw stories about people who worship nature... thats also a form of religon..
<6> By that account, does "atheism" qualify as religion too?
<6> And isn't that rather odd?
<6> More proof that the concept of religion doesn't make sense. It can't be explained in a rational way to any logical thinking human being without resoring to "just because it is so"
<1> which usually ends, when its spreading bigger and bigger, into stories like "it is so because we say so."
<6> Lion-O: That's usually the practical implementation of it, yes
<6> Or "because it is written"
<6> Yeah...so?
<1> you don't believe in the force? Then now we'll have to apply it, where's my hammer...
<6> Who wrote it down, and based on which ***umptions?
<6> Lion-O: Hahaha
<1> PolarWolf: anyway, thats the only problem I see with religion. The risk of eventually getting out of proportions and being usurped by people with a totally different agenda.



<8> PolarWolf: no. Buddhism has no god
<9> I suppose one could replace freedom of religion with a ban of it
<1> smsie: hmm? Buddha isn't a god? ;) What about all those Buddha statues ?
<9> Im sure the ones who survive the deal will thank us in a couple of hundred years :)
<9> that or if the religious people win curse us for all eternity
<10> buddha isn't really a religion in that sense.
<10> there is no god, there is no directive to 'convert' people..
<10> it's entirely too reasonable to be a religion.
<1> NineVolt: hmm, as far as I know its basicly aimed at achieving "enlightment" where the first person to start this had achieved it. But iirc (but not sure) he's believed to be divine.
<1> where's oldmonk when you need him ;)
<10> "While Buddhism does not deny the existence of supernatural beings (indeed, many are discussed in Buddhist scripture), it does not ascribe power for creation, salvation or judgment to them."
<6> Hmm, the quality of the quotes database seems to be increasing
<10> "Shakyamuni Buddha did not generally claim any divine status for himself - although in some Mahayana sutras, he does declare that he is the "god above the gods - superior to all the gods" (Lalitavistara Sutra)"
<10> "In Mahayana Buddhism, the Buddha (transcending his mere physical form) is viewed as a boundless, beginningless and endless being, present in all times and all places, yet beyond the reach of logic or mundane conceptualisation. He is regarded as the very embodiment of ungraspable, eternal yet realisable Dharma - ultimate Truth or "Enlightenment" (bodhi). In essence, all perfect Buddhas are seen by Mahayana Buddhism as One in nature - all are salvati
<1> interesting
<10> so no, the buddha isn't a 'god' according to buddhism. merely one who has achieved the goal of buddhism.
<10> a great way of life if you ask me.
<1> hmmm 8-)
<9> actually a budhist fundamentalist is one of the few I would not fear
<9> he would probably starve himself to death so as to not hurt anything living
<10> heh
<6> I don't mind fundamentalist who set themselves on fire to make a point either
<8> Lion-O: Buddha is not a god, no
<1> PolarWolf: I'm sure the people who need to clean up the mess don't agree 8)
<6> They feel good about themselves for making the point, noone got hurt but himself, and we are rid of one more fundamentalist. All in all a win-win situation.
<9> PolarWolf: hehe
<6> Hmm, Freestylers
<1> tosti time
<1> wow... Venezuele (President Hugo Chavez) has publicly compared bush to hitler.. hmmm 8)
<1> Caracas
<10> NICE.
<1> ha ha ha, they're going to buy more arms and bring their army to more strength in order to "repel an invasion by the Americans" :P
<6> Where are they buying their guns from, yathink?
<11> Lion-O: Heard about this flying a plane over Iraq painted in UN colours leaked memo from Bush->Blair?
<1> PolarWolf: thats something we shouldn't be thinking about 8)
<1> Evii: no ?
<11> Lion-O: Apparently. They flew some spy plane thing over Iraq before the war started, painted in UN colours, trying to get him to shoot it down.
<11> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-2023128,00.html
<11> That's pretty funny.
<4> according to the article it looks more like they just discussed doing that (the un colors one)
<11> Yeah, I noticed that.
<10> Mr Danger
<10> in venezuela, Bush is known as Mr Danger
<1> Evii: llol
<6> Over here he's known simply as "raving idiot"
<1> Evii: it sure wouldn't surprise me.
<11> I take it that story has had limited coverage outside the UK?
<11> Good God: "Bond Director is arrested for selling *** - in a dress"
<1> Hmm, I just saw a whole documentary about the "communist terror" sweeping the US in the 60's 70's, that McArthur (iirc) incident. There's a movie being released about it this year.
<1> In short; I don't know if any of you can recall the MASH episode where Holahan is being accused of being a communist, it would seem that the episode was based on real-life experiences.
<11> Heh. MASH.
<10> i'm a communist.
<11> Woot.
<10> some, not all.
<1> Evii: anyway, with that in the back of my mind I'd really not be surprised if this scheme would be real.
<4> McCarthy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_scare#The_Second_Red_Scare
<1> RelDrgn: thats the one... With that cl***ic reporter "Murrow" (iirc) who started to lay it out on national TV.
<0> NineVolt, you could always move to china ;)
<10> i said communist, not idiot.
<0> hehe
<1> aha, a clear threat to international irc security 8)
<0> Lion-O, so, what you up to?
<1> fredk_: finishing up on an ldap installation on $customer server, followed by final firewall check after which I'm resetting the routing table to put it online.
<0> scary
<0> ldap is still black magic to me
<1> hmm 8) it has its uses.
<0> sure, but it's still black magic :)
<1> HA HA HA ha, Oh man.. I never read this one before, its cl***ic: http://www.bash.org/?142934
<0> haha


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