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<0> zetawoof: Do those dualcores even still have HT?
<1> Nanuq: what do you recommend within Xeon?
<2> Tronks: No idea. Ask the dike^W^WComa.
<3> Coma: /proc/cpuinfo on one of the machines I've got access to here says yes.
<4> can someone help me begginer wannabe. :) i have a copy of "mandriva 2006 linux" on DVD. friend gave it to me, he dont know what it is and he dont need it. I would like to try it, but i dont know is it a OS like windows or it's like that CD boot versions i saw that dont need particion on HDD.
<2> Tronks: Refresh my DRAM, does speech recognition depend on large amounts of memory?
<3> If nothing else, it does kernel builds reeeeal fast.
<1> Nanuq: not really
<0> Tronks: You could have a look at the new crestwood xeons. They're supposed to kick ***
<2> Hrm.
<1> Nanuq: what I really need is processing power to handle as many instances of the recognizer as possible in one machine
<2> Tronks: Are you using stuff like SSE?
<0> nitko: Mostlikely, it's not a live cd, but something you need to install
<3> Nanuq: Should be. Speech recognition takes some significant DSP work.



<1> Nanuq: I don't think so
<0> Tronks: Well, you might profits from a xeon's larger cache then
<2> zetawoof: Does AMD's latest version of the Athlon/Opteron do SSE3 yet?
<0> s/ts/t/
<3> Nanuq: No idea. Would expect so though.
<4> ok... nevermind. goodbye
<2> zetawoof: I know it's planned, but I don't recall the time frame. :)
<2> Tronks: I don't know, I really don't get to play with anything high end.
<1> zetawoof: I intend to use specialized cards for the DSP
<1> so, the new Xeons are not featuring HT?
<5> hyia
<2> Tronks: Personally, I'd aim for tweaked Core Duo systems.
<5> I run linux , but when i promt startx .. is comming .. I hear sound .. but I dont view nothin'
<2> Tronks: Think 1U rack-mount.
<5> when is starting linux .. when is trying to boot I have this "error" : press return to select your video mode .. or something like that .. or press space to continue
<5> why I dont seen nothin when i start x ?
<0> Tronks: From a quick search, it looks like the core 2 duo cpus don't have HT anymore
<1> koderS: what distro?
<5> slackware 10.2
<1> Coma: hmmmm, so I'd probably better forget about HT, if Intel also is :P
<3> Tronks: Hyperthreading was a hack to make the P4 **** slightly less.
<0> Tronks: Now you get the idea ;)
<1> koderS: are you new in Linux?
<5> nop
<5> i use lilo to run linux/windows:)
<6> hey i have a system here that is just freezing up after about 1-2 mins after system bootup. This thing has a SBC (single board computer) I'm thinking that would be the root cause.. any one else?
<1> koderS: make yourself a favor and install Ubuntu :P
<5> ?
<2> http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/server/svr/pro_svr_detail.php?UID=624
<1> koderS: you don't know ubuntu?
<5> Tronks I dont understand .. why are u trying to say:)
<6> koderS-: what the **** is "u"
<5> i want to learn about linux:)
<5> Emerson ?
<6> koderS-: no one cares
<1> koderS: Ubuntu is the best distro for you
<1> koderS: now go get it
<1> koderS: www.ubuntu.com
<2> Tronks: Yeah I like that idea.
<5> i have instaled slackware 10.2
<5> I need to set that video mode
<5> who can help me?
<1> Nanuq: ;)
<1> koderS: ubuntu can
<1> koderS: it will automatically give you that video mode
<1> koderS: burn it to a CD and try it
<5> But I want to set that on slackware .. directly
<1> koderS: you can even try it without installing it
<1> koderS: believe me, slackware isn't for you
<1> Nanuq: any other recommendations to get the most of my engine?
<1> Nanuq: compilation hacks, etc?
<0> Tronks: Too many of those in gcc to mention :P
<1> Coma: then can you point me to some good page?
<0> You could go with the usual -O3 and funroll-loops, to begin with
<3> Coma: do note that that'll blow instruction cache like a cheap hooker
<0> Tronks: I think gentoo's got some decent documentation on all the optimisation stuff
<0> zetawoof: Hmm, also true
<1> Coma: k, thanks
<0> Tronks: Mabe you'd better experiment a little with different options and see what works best
<2> Tronks: Try gcc 3.4.6 for starters, "-O2 -march=i686 -fomit-frame-pointer -ffast-math"
<1> Coma: are those new crestwoods the intel 5160, 5180?



<2> Tronks: Download a copy of ICC, see if you get anywhere with that. Might be worth the money.
<2> HELLO EMERSON DEAR.
<0> Tronks: Oh, I wouldn't know about the exact cpu numbering
<7> Emerson: both can kick way better than that
<6> whitecap: lol
<6> hey whitecap
<0> Emerson: GOOD TO SEE YOU TOO!
<6> Coma: how goes it ?
<0> Emerson: Bloody awful!
<6> Coma: its 5:00am, I have been on a call with 2 engineers, my field tech, sense 1am trying to get this damn telephany boxen fixed
<0> Emerson: You must really love your job ;)
<6> it's interesting
<0> Yeah, but emergency calls in the weekend always ****, imho
<7> heh, just past 2am, throwing darts, jammin and loading bowls since the beer is gone
<6> Coma: I've never seen Linux act like this. just freezes up without any erro and I had them check the debug level, it's fine, just nothing at all
<6> whitecap: when I get out of here smoking da ganja is 1st on my list
<2> Emerson: What sort of hardware?
<0> Emerson: Normally you'd only see that happen on overheating and the like
<1> Coma: I just looked at the wikipedia. it's woodcrest, and yeah, 5160 is one of them
<2> Emerson: Yeah, I'm thinking hardware. ANything software, you should at least get a kernel panic or something.
<6> Nanuq: SBC with 2 Network boards and 6 dialogics
<2> Emerson: Any rock hard halting like that, I'd seriously look at the hardware.
<0> Tronks: Expect them to be incredibly expensive though, being the newest of them all
<2> Coma: I still like my Duo idea :P
<6> Nanuq: I'm having my tech replace the SBC with the old one right now.. (this originally started out a swap of Dialogics and hds from $old server to $new server)
<2> Coma: Maybe I'm too cheap to consider anything remotely high end
<0> Nanuq: Sometimes there's little benifit in going high end, but in this caseit sounds like the extra umpf a xeon brings might help
<1> Coma: but also the most powerful, right?
<0> Then again, I'm no longer the hardware whore that I was and don't exactly keep up with all the details anymore
<2> Coma: I'm thinking rack mount blades might scale better
<0> Tronks: Yup
<0> Nanuq: Now that's even further up highend ;)
<2> Coma: Well, you could just add units as you need them
<6> btw, http://www.keurig.com/ <--- worth getting
<0> Nanuq: Sure, but geting the base gear's already quite an investment
<2> Coma: obviously you can get rack mount xeon boxen, sure, but this seems cheaper and with less power involved
<0> Emerson: Only if you can get those cups without too much trouble ;)
<2> Coma: I dunno, I'm just speaking from my cool, quiet and holy****electricitycostsalotnow kick.
<6> Coma: worse you order it from Keurig
<0> Emerson: -ETOOMUCHTROUBLE
<2> Coma: This is why I'm itchin' for the 35W Athlon X2s
<1> guys, thanks for the help
<1> now, let me change the topic
<2> er, Athlon 64 X2
<6> Coma: order the cups in bulk and you would be good :)
<0> Nanuq: And this is why I'm sticking with my lowpower laptop and keep all the heavy gear at places where I don't have to worry about electrical bills ;)
<2> Coma: If you recall, they're coming out with.. well they already have.. the 84W version of the 3800+
<1> how do i get a decent apt-get wannabe in Fedora?
<2> Coma: They should have the 65W version, and then the 35W version.
<6> 3$ for 5 cups of coffee... thats not that bad
<0> Tronks: I'm sure google's more than capable of answering that
<6> Tronks: apt-get doesn't work well in anything but a dpkg enviroment
<0> Oh, and I do use it on osx too
<1> i LOVE the real apt-get, I just have to put up with Fedora at work
<7> emerge works well too, just slower
<2> Emerson: Oh cool, so it's like a single serving cup?
<2> Emerson: well, single for us folks. ;)
<6> Nanuq: yup
<2> Emerson: or does this require their fancy hardware?
<6> for the 200$ model it even is programable :)
<2> Emerson: Well this coffee application run on my existing server infrastructure?
<0> bbl, I'm going to get some decent food
<7> Coma: breakfast of a shapely redhead would work
<2> whitecap: of, or with?
<0> hehehe
<0> whitecap: As long as it's no dike eh? ;P
<2> whitecap: well that dike just might have red hair
<6> Nanuq: no clue
<2> ha!


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