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<0> right.
<1> Jostein: I tend to forget the details. I have a 70-293 study book here though, I'm sure it mentions it :)
<2> PPTP needs 1723 tcp and 500 udp
<3> I'm forwarding and prerouting 47, 50, 51, UDP 500 and UDP 1701 and it's STILL not working. =(
<0> anyway. for me thats a moot point. anything using GRE seems to die in my router :P
<2> 293 , thats an ms exam :(
<0> PolarWolf: heh
<1> mario__: It is, yes
<2> PolarWolf, i tend to be very against m$ products , they follow a concept very wrong to GIGO , its called GINCA
<0> mario__: some places, some businesses and around 5 billion households use windows. it doesnt hurt to know a little more than the basics :P
<2> Garbage in -> Never came out
<2> ;)
<2> indeed
<2> im not ignorant
<4> mario__: I suggest you stop your trolling right now.
<4> mario__: and while you're at it; fix your enterkey.
<2> im taking my MCSA and MCSE just to add something to my CV
<1> mario__: *shrug* it makes me a good living, and some stuff is actually a good idea
<3> Windows is good for workstations, that's the only place I use it.
<3> Well that and I have an 03 server runing VPN that linux won't route to. =x
<5> Sainte'.
<4> hmm, wikipedia suggests that it is impossible to run os/2 from within vmware. Odd :P
<0> heh
<0> qurstion is why would you run os/2 at all these days?
<4> Jostein: Nostalgic reasons. And to see if all that software I registered in the old days still functions 8)
<6> os/2 was a damned good os
<0> beat windows 3.11 and win95, no doubt
<7> Ka-bar: keyword "was"
<0> But I still wouldnt run it -today-
<4> The only problem is that I'm running into the 'Warp connect' bug. After installation the install screen/bar pops up blocking everything else and thats it.
<1> Lion-O: It should work in theory though, unless it does evil things to its hardware
<0> lol
<4> PolarWolf: they suggest it does and I think it applies to 4. But version 3 runs without a problem.
<1> Lion-O: Hmm
<4> in fact. Both OS/2 3 & 4 were the only OS's I actually bought 8)
<8> hi all
<0> Lion-O: I got freebies. no need to buy :P
<5> hi real mobk
<5> monk
<4> Jostein: hmm :) The only free stuff I got were the server versions. Beta's actually.
<0> heh
<0> I remember OS/2 was popular with the BBS guys
<8> Sturgeon
<0> run the BBS and dont ever worry about a misbehaving app killing your BBS :P
<9> indeed
<4> that owned.
<9> OS/2 had better memory protection than Win3.x did
<0> Tamahome: s/better//
<1> Yeah, well, technical superiority never accounts for much
<0> Tamahome: Im not sure win3.x had that at all
<10> I wish it did, imagine how much better society would be :)
<9> IBM's case is very similar to Apple... they really wanted to keep their technology all to themselves
<1> Jostein: Sure it did, as long as you didn't run more than one application at a time :P
<0> PolarWolf: lol
<1> Tamahome: Two words: Personal Computer
<9> indeed.
<1> That's an IBM thing, and they sure as hell didn't keep it to themselves
<9> and regretted the mistake for decades
<1> Microsoft had a lot to do with the failure of OS/2
<1> Big, big mistake of IBM, they should've known better
<9> and now they've shoved most of their consumer hardware off to Lenovo
<1> Tamahome: Yeah. Can't blame 'em, there's no buck to be made
<1> Relatively speaking, that is
<9> not with the likes of Dell still around
<1> I bet they make more profit from a single Cell CPU than they ever did with a full PC
<1> Percentage wise
<9> probably
<1> Not to mention Global Services
<9> GS makes a ****tonne of money
<6> margins on consumer-level hardware are razor-thin these days. It's hard to make any money unless you're pushing *huge* volume.
<6> and IBM was never really set up to do that kind of volume. It's hard to get away from the mainframe mentality.
<6> wow
<11> Ouch
<6> time to change servers, me thinks.
<6> whoops
<1> Heh, we would have a dragrace around here soon too, except it's cancelled. They cleaned the track too well, it's too slippery :)
<10> hehe
<4> hmm, monstertruck jam. I fail to see the excitement; a big truck drives over some b0rk cars.
<10> Lion-O, destruction is good
<4> fredk-: but there is hardly anything being destroyed. Perhaps except the cars themselves.
<12> Hi all
<10> thats not enough? :)
<4> fredk-: nah
<10> hehe ok
<4> fredk-: why can't they turn the place into a public parkinglot and /then/ let the trucks have a drive through? :)
<10> because its illegal?
<0> *grin*
<10> heh
<4> fredk-: why would that be? ;) Just hang up a warning 8) "Here you get to see the trucks in action up close." "Warning: <small print>your car will be utterly destroyed"
<10> hehe
<4> oh well.
<13> Anyone got a few minutes to help me with an issue seeing my hard drive? its in suse 10.1 pm me if you will
<6> Wooism: no. please keep it in the channel
<4> Wooism: we don't msg here. Try actually asking something specific and do make sure you read the 'fine' manual.
<6> or search the fabulous web
<13> alright. I have suse 10.1. I have two HD's that are XFS formatted. I want them vieable under Suse. I have tried web..
<4> 'man mount'.
<4> wow, amazing. It seems I finally succeeded in setting up OS/2 :)
<0> nice
<0> now you can make files with no filenames!
<0> or with enter in the name. or other OS/2 oddities
<13> lol
<14> i am mounting my ntfs filesystem under user and root, but i cant acces it with user, help me pls
<1> s/oddities/stupidities/
<4> Jostein: hehe :)
<1> OTOH, NTFS has a neat feature too :)
<1> TRTint: That's actually by design
<0> PolarWolf: oh?
<4> TRTint: "man mount". use the correct mountoptions to set gid and permission bits. Look into "umask" and the likes.
<13> i thought ntfs didnt accept unix permissions?
<1> Jostein: Yeah, you can hide data in the space reserved for filenames
<1> Jostein: Or somesuch. I read an article on it a while ago. It's cool.
<0> ah
<1> Lion-O: AFAIK, NTFS mounted partitions are only accissible by rewt
<0> yeah.
<0> dont recall what those things were called, but it could be done. awesome for spyware :P
<1> Jostein: Aye
<4> PolarWolf: not sure from mind though.
<13> if the device type/mime type is x-special/device-block in suse is there some kinda block on it?
<13> you ***hats are no ****in help at all!
<15> no refunds
<4> aaah yes, and the option to set a background /per/ directory 8) Man, this is cool. A nice background in my "control panel" like window.
<6> wow
<6> aggressive cluelessness
<0> Lion-O: heh :P
<1> Lion-O: Such a productivity enhancing feature
<6> you're not supposed to crap down your legs. . . :-/
<4> PolarWolf: absolutely 8)
<7> Just don't try to optimiza the sequence.
<4> and it has solitair too.
<0> Lion-O: and it has REXX :P
<4> holy ****. I totally forgot about its virtual machine capabilities.
<7> ah, nice, I no long have to actually install anything in my java development evironment except an initial svn client, and a jre ;)
<7> the rest is checkout-able
<4> "Dos from drive A". I used to run whole different DOS versions and even test out MSDOS 5.0 using that feature. Could control memory usage and all.
<0> lol
<4> afaik one of the first 'real' virtual machines.
<0> technically speaking... was it?
<4> Jostein: as far as I recall it sure was. I don't know of any other OS at that time capable of running another one in a virtual session. You could even run netware like this, at a later time Novell even released enhanced versions for OS/2.
<0> heh
<16> hey quick question if i have AIM, Yahoo and MSN what do i use for my messengers if i have Mandrake Linux
<17> hey i have fedora linux installed on my computer, and now it won't boot up. I see initial boot up check but the GUI won't come up. So is there a way i can get into a text base mode?
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