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<0> Tronks: I'm more anti-MSFT than anything <0> Tronks: But I know how to manage it, and it works for me. I fulfills my needs. Like I've said, I run what I consider the best available. <1> Nanuq: what the heck is the FT at the end of MSFT ? <0> Tronks: Would I use MSFT OSes for servery things? No. Never. <0> Emerson: I'm using the ticker symbol. <1> ahh <2> Nanuq: of course, if you know how to manage Windows you're fine, I have never been infected in XP <0> Tronks: What I've found for server tasks does in fact run on OSS and non-OSS systems. That's fine. We're talking strictly about some sort of system with a GUI, where I'm supposed to sit in front of it and use it. <1> Tronks: I don't touch MS products with a 10ft pole, only reason is that I don't like anything I can do "tail -f /var/log/messages" on :) <2> Nanuq: but you have to agree with me that some parts of Windows **** hard <0> Emerson: You have the equiv.. <0> Tronks: I'm not disagreeing. <1> lol <0> Tronks: IE ****s hard. explorer.exe ****s hard. <0> Tronks: The whole "it costs money" and product activation **** ****s really hard. <0> Tronks: I have to balance these things. Even with all that, it beats what I've seen.
<1> Nanuq: I dont see anything good about MSWindows <0> Tronks: I'd rather contend with all this. <2> Nanuq: the registry ****s, uninstalling apps ****s <0> tavi-san: if you wanna bounce this cap off me, lemmie know <2> Nanuq: having your app specific data all spread throughout the HD ****s <0> Tronks: Yeah well, it came no surprise from myself. You see, back in 2001 I had to decide whether to work towards improving things, or just giving up and using Windows 2000. Well, you can figure which I chose. <0> Why? Less effort. <1> "stay away from me I have a virus" ... lol <3> Nanuq: i would, can you please mail me your shipping address and check if i get free shipping to your place <3> so that everything would get less expensive <1> hey tavi-san <3> hiya Emerson <1> tavi-san: how ya been? <2> Nanuq: have you never had problems with MS windowing system? <3> Emerson: trying to buy stuff from the internet <3> Emerson: and cursing my country, you? :) <0> Tronks: I suspect you're ignoring everything I'm saying. <1> tavi-san: lol, fun! <1> tavi-san: stressed, stressed, and been up way to long <2> Nanuq: i'm not <2> Nanuq: but you said that X windows ****s <2> Nanuq: and I'm trying to compare it with Windows <0> Tronks: You understand that I'm not some MSFT/Windows fan? <3> Emerson: i know the feeling <2> Nanuq: I do <4> Tronks: apples and oranges, as they say. <3> last two weeks i had 60+ working hours each week <2> Nanuq: I just don't understand why you keep on using Windows <4> Tronks: GDI != Windows just as X11 != Linux <0> Tronks: Remember it's not one specific thing, but that's certainly a large part. <0> Tronks: Because things seem complete. Things don't feel like they've been started and abandoned. <3> Emerson: this is my first weekend off in the past two months <3> so i must say im happy now :) <0> Tronks: I do use open source software. A lot of it is absolutely fantastic. <3> yeah <0> Tronks: But where it would replace Windows, it just isn't there. I don't even see any progress in the right direction. Just a lot of confused people scratching their arse. <3> i use windows mainly @ home <3> try getting a laptop with ati card working right in linux <3> just a PITA <2> Nanuq: I'm only felt that Windows was somehow complete only with XP <5> tavi-san: Wow, do you have that oddest of feelings of not knowing how to relax properly or what to do with your time? <4> tavi-san: Drivers are a total can of worms, and that's really more the manufacturers' fault than anything <3> Pizbit: yeah :) <5> tavi-san: ****s doesn't it?:) <3> zetawoof: yeah they ****, i have a 7600gt on the desktop <3> linux works smoothly on it <0> Tronks: Windows 2000 was the first one with a solid enough core. <0> Well, NT 4 I suppose was okay. <4> tavi-san: biggest issue according to some insiders is that if ATI (for example) open-sourced their drivers, they'd be instantly sued by a few dozen other companies they licensed and/or stole code from <4> at least, for a lot of the newer cards <3> zetawoof: it figures <2> Nanuq: ok, I got the point. you don't like MS but aren't satisfied with OSS <0> Tronks: Pretty much. <2> Nanuq: but I guess you'd switch if OSS got much better <0> Tronks: I would have to consider it. <2> Nanuq: you see? you're biased <0> Tronks: But I'll admit I still feel guilt for simply giving up. <0> Tronks: How?
<2> Nanuq: you would consider it, even if it got much better <4> Tronks: That's as opposed to not considering it. <0> Er, yeah. <3> btw i got a new laptop <0> if I were biased, I would never consider switching. I keep telling you I run what I consider the best available. I re-evaluate what I consider so, time to time. <3> dell dual core <4> tavi-san: male birth control edition? <3> first thing in romania that didnt cost 45% more than in other .eu countries <2> Nanuq: ok, i got it <2> Nanuq: now, do you see some light at the end of the tunnel? <0> tavi-san: geez, and here I am stuck with old hardware <3> We regret to inform you that your eBay account has been suspended due to concerns we have for the safety and integrity of the eBay community. <3> "Abusing eBay" of the eBay User Agreement states, in part: <3> MOTHER ****ERS!!!!!!!!! <3> "...we may limit, suspend, or terminate our service and user accounts, prohibit access to our website, remove hosted content, and take technical and legal steps to keep users off the Site if we think that they are creating problems, possible legal liabilities, or acting inconsistently with the letter or spirit of our policies." <2> Nanuq: i guess you don't like to feel guilty <3> Nanuq: i had to take a bank loan for that <0> Tronks: Guilt runs my world. <2> :D <3> but i couldnt use the damn CRT monitor i had anymore <3> my eyes were bleeding <5> literally? <2> Nanuq: are you expecting a lot from Vista? <0> tavi-san: what'd you do? <3> Nanuq: nothing <2> Nanuq: are you even expecting anything? <0> Tronks: Nope. It's more of the same. <3> i just logged in to shanta and checked my email <3> and saw that, i was like OMG <5> tavi-san: After having gotten an LCD to replace my old CRT, well I could *never* go back to a CRT <3> Nanuq: i think it's just me being .ro <0> Tronks: You keep on forgetting that I'm no MSFT fan. <2> Nanuq: oh, ok, sorry :P <0> Tronks: You have me lumped in with the droolers that wait for every fart Ballmer has to share. <1> I have already taken Vista for a test drive for a few clients, I like it better than XP... <2> Nanuq: but I'm trying to point that the MS alternative will eventually be over <5> Tronks: MS doesn't look to be going out of business any time soon. <0> Pizbit: You know for me, it's not the image quality itself, though that certainly is superior. <5> Nanuq: Yep <0> Pizbit: It's the fact that this TFT takes 1/3 the power, and doesn't heat the room up. <5> Nanuq: Heh, my room could do with the extra heat. <0> Pizbit: Oh us bears can't stand heat. <3> Pizbit: im FED UP WITH HEAT <2> Pizbit: they don't look, but they will <3> 36 degrees celsius every day <3> im melting <0> Pizbit: Oh, plus I don't need to stress over where to put the monitor. <6> hmm. <5> Tronks: I'll sell all my stock right away then on your say so <0> Pizbit: I can actually have my desk flush against the wall now. <5> Nanuq: Yeah, the space it freed up was amazing <1> Nanuq: did you hear about my duel-touchscreen setup? <5> Nanuq: *nod* having to put my desk against windows for the extra depth was a pita <0> Tronks: I don't have an upgrade path, I guess. <2> Pizbit: People are tired of MS <0> Pizbit: against windows? <2> Pizbit: and their image is getting worse every day <0> Pizbit: you had the arse end of your crt hanging out the window? <1> Tronks: buisnss' will still use MS because it's all they know <5> Nanuq: Windows, over here at least are inset against the wall <5> No <0> Pizbit: does rain not concern you? <5> Hehehe <5> Nanuq: Not really, work picks me up and I work inside:P <2> Emerson: information spreads very quickly these days <1> Tronks: and as long as buisness uses it, home users will too <0> Tronks: I might have to settle for what exists. I just might get annoyed enough to fix what I consider lacking. <2> Emerson: they will eventually know the alternatives <5> Tronks: Wow, does the internet have anything to do with it? <0> Tronks: But I just like to keep putting such things off.. <3> Items: $56.01 <3> Shipping & Handling: $16.46 <3>
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