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<0> hm, is there a package to do the equivalent of C++ lint on xml? <1> smsie: ahh. our firewall is pixy. <2> Viking667: content blocking <3> I think so, Tamahome_ <1> Viking667: pr0n blocker <4> Tamahome_: yes, open source? dunno <1> Viking667: if you're canny you can get around them quite easily, so they're a waste of space. <3> Tamahome_: though as "XML" has to be "well-formed" anyhow, any parser worth its salt... <2> whyzzyrd: if it only blocked pr0n, I wouldn't care. It blocks ****ing everyhting I might want to see <1> smsie: ahh, you naughty hacker you. <0> Viking: yeah I'm having problems making XHTML "well formed" <5> Ugh, I hate that smsie, when I worked at Philips they started doing that too. <5> It blocked *everything* that wasn't "business related". <3> Tamahome_: ahhhh huh. Tried using nvu as an editor? <4> well there are XML checkers that validate against the schema. <2> whyzzyrd: well, it used to anyway. I was *begged* to fix the proxy when it broke and they couldn't fix it and senior management were getting pissed off. So I had root on the proxy box for a while. Strangely websense seems to *completely* ignore stuff from my host now
<5> lol <5> nice <2> it's NOT my ****ing job to fix their badly configured squid instance <6> XyZzY: xmlstarlet is a nice little utility package that can do just that on the command line, and is nicely debianized ;) <0> do <li> list items have a way of doing levels of indentation?, it seems you can't nest <ul>'s in XHTML Strict <2> I wouldn't mind...you have to work HARD to misconfigure squid... <4> what's really a PITA is when they block 'chat' sites. most of the best fixes for stuff are on those sites <3> Tamahome_: huh? you can't? <0> Viking: not according to W3C Validator <7> how do i make the xterm history unlimited? currently it only shows as many lines fit on the window. <3> owww. <3> lonetron: probably a commandswitch <4> wlfshmn: wish I had that about a year ago. had a XML project then. <4> Tamahome_: just put in another <ul/ol> tag and go on <0> Xyzzy: they DON'T NEST. <0> which part of that did you miss? <8> I remember when Compaq bought DEC and Compaq imposed their web filtering on us. They blocked ESR's web site because it mentioned guns. After a bit of revolt from the troops, we put an end to that ****. <6> XyZzY: I have a little project that scrapes some nastylooking websites, does tag balancing, spits out xhtml, runs that through an xsl/t transform, and sends the result to a webapp of mine for importing in the database ;) <3> ohhh. Wrap the damn thing in a <li></li> pair <2> Tamahome_: they DO nest. As long as they're in an item <0> http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fgonzo.sfarc.net%2F%7Esean%2Fmrpcsubs%2Fview.php%3Fitem%3D1&charset=%28detect+automatically%29&doctype=Inline&ss=1 <-- here's the validator output from the page I'm trying to fix up <4> Tamahome_: yes they do, just tried it <3> i.e. <ul><li>first</li><li><ul><li>Second level, first item</li></ul></li> <3> ... <0> wait OMIGOD AAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH <0> nevermind, I see what I did wrong <2> Tamahome_: you MUST have an endtag </li> <0> yes, yes... <4> heheheh <3> Tamahome_: oookay. What did you doL <3> s/L/\?/ <2> strict, every tag has to be closed <2> no such thing as implicit tag closures no more :) <3> heh. <2> even **** like <br> has to be closed these days <3> Why doesn't <br /> work? <2> Viking667: it does. That's "closed" <6> smsie: I could never get it into my head -not- cto close tags <3> ahhh. <2> Viking667: <br> alone used to be valid. Not any more <3> Right. It's time I left. <3> smsie: mmmmmm. True. <4> that's one thing I noticed about html produced by 'mozilla -edit' it will fix some types of tags without closures. <3> Time I left, anyhow. Lots of luck, Tamahome_ <2> Viking667: similarly, <img src="foo.png"> used to be valid. No more... <3> I use <img "blag"></img> <3> Dunno why, just seemed right. <9> I used <img "blag" /> <2> both are errors :) <9> Err. <10> Viking667: some browsers will complain about <img></img> <2> but only because <img "blag... is complere bollocks :) <3> mrm. <9> <img src="http://www.blag.com/blag.jpg" /> <3> Right. Gotta go. <3> bye. <2> CancerMan: yeah, I tend to prefer that
<6> smsie: xhtml is a lot nicer though. <10> smsie: <img ... /> is valid both html and xhtml <2> killall-9: <img "blag" /> is NOT <10> ? <10> why not? <6> smsie: people just need to stop building HTML pages by stuffing raw text into a buffer, and get with the program and use a dom ;) <1> aye, but xhtml is only valid if it's served with the correct content type. And if it is, IE don't render it. <2> killall-9: because "blag" is utterly meaningless there <10> iirc ie renders correctly application/html+xml <2> killall-9: <img src="blag /> is valid <10> smsie: oh, i didn't know that was verbatim <4> eg need the src= <6> smsie: what do you mean? "blag" has all the requireds and renders fine in IE, for example? <2> killall-9: I dunno that it was, I was being pedantic though (which in a discussion about the exact syntax of html elements is, I think, perfectly valid of me <1> killall-9: I thought XHTML was text/xhtml, or application/xhtml <6> smsie: err, I ment http://wlfshmn.homeip.net/~wlfshmn/sherlock/ ofcourse <6> smsie: or maybe it's served as html.. I forget <6> ah yes, html it seems <11> isn't it safest to just serve text/html and let the <!DOCTYPE/> handle the rest? <0> there we go, I fixed it. sorry for the outburst :| <2> wlfshmn: you're on crack. <img "blag"> is not now, nor has it EVER BEEN valid HTML XHTML STRICT TRANSITIONAL *anything* <6> smsie: misspaste. calm down ;) <2> wlfshmn: <img src="blag"> is a different matter :) <2> hehe <10> make clean ddebug install-noapi <10> ahhh, sorry <4> Tamahome_: frustrating how a simple omission is <2> $ make sense <2> make: *** No rule to make target ense'. Stop. <2> grr, bloody screen <2> keeps eating my backticks <10> make help <10> Usual make targets: <10> all engine contrib modules clients apidocs test everything install uninstall install-noapi install-root uninstall-root clean distclean cvsclean (avoid this one!) debug ddebug xdebug (carefull!) snapshot tarball <8> make reformatall <9> make ****it <0> make reboot installwixp <0> s/wi/win/ <9> make explode <4> make frankenstein <9> make tart\ cup\ of\ tea <4> STNG: make Earl\ Grey\ -\ Hot <4> Jostein: Capt Picard always had Earl Grey tea <12> yes. I just dont see where the escaping comes from :P <1> Jostein: command line <4> well I hope to hell that a starship as powerfull as the Enterprise does not run MS-windows for starships <12> whyzzyrd: I got into this in the middle, ok :P <0> xyzzy: LOL <12> I didnt get the full story "make" thing <4> well on second thought, maybe it does... that's why it kept breaking down so much <0> wb Eric <6> meh.. damn it, for some reason my domino configuration UI refuses to launch onmy remote xserver <13> heh <13> http://news.zdnet.com/2100-1009_22-6046475.html?tag=nl <13> re Sean, wlf <5> That's an interesting article. <5> I'd want whomever wrote xmms to work for me, heh. <5> X seriously needs to be revamped <5> Anyone else getting disconnected from AIM? <14> no <15> yeah, been happening all day <5> It's weird, I have two accounts online with GAIM, only one is constantly getting booted. <16> hello <16> anyone here worked with pppoe? <17> yeah.. IM's been flaky all day <16> I'm have access to net thru pppoe (mac +user&p***) and a real ip (80.90..). Can I make my box a pppoe server and give someone access to internet? <18> Mike4sho: why use a 'pppoe server' ? Just setup NAT. <18> Mike4sho: so, use pppoe to connect, then use NAT to give others access, easy as that. <16> so I should be able to give other people net acces, right? <18> sure. should be easy, check www.iptables.org for that. <16> do I need dhcpd for it? <18> Mike4sho: not perse, it depends.
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