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<0> Shut down a critical server at 1pm, you've just livened up the whole day.
<1> hehe
<0> Or, if you run Windows, you don't have to -- they'll do it themselves.
<0> darkfrog: I keep it fun. =)
<2> from experience, you'll get even more spectacular results in the 0830-0930 and 1630-1730 blocks ;)
<1> well, most of the time I'm a developer, so I wouldn't really care...just means I'd get to go home early. ;)
<1> anyone have any constructive ***istance to provide? ;)
<0> Um, it did what you told it to.
<0> "single user mode" != shutting down
<1> shutdown now
<0> -r
<2> yeah, that's wrong
<1> ...how can I screw that up? :-p
<2> if you want to shut the machine down, shutdown -h now
<2> if you want to reboot, shutdown -r now
<2> "shutdown now" doesn't actually shut the system down, it just enters singleuser mode
<2> (-h for "halt", btw0
<2> welcome to UNIX, where the obvious usually isn't :P
<1> Liandrin, hehe
<3> at least there _everything_ is obscure so you don't think it's easy
<2> exel: I once had a cow-orker who thought "shutdown -q" was the correct way to shut a system down
<2> exel: in case SunOS was weird, -q means "pretend to shut down but don't actually do it"
<3> liandrin: oohhhkay, how does that work out? :)
<2> exel: fortunately, he only switched off one machine before I caught this error
<2> exel: and the one he did get was unimportant
<3> I've had this one episode
<3> where I wanted to reboot an indy at the office
<2> exel: apparently someone had logged into his workstation and done a shutdown -q to him, and he didn't realize -q meant "fake"
<3> or shutdown, rather
<3> gave the command
<3> only then to find out it was the rootshell on a remote server
<2> I was asked once to do something to an NT server at work
<2> so I walked up to it and hit Ctrl+Alt+Del to log in
<3> I can feel where that's going
<2> except that the keyboard in front of the NT server's monitor actually belonged to the Linux box next to it
<2> which dutifully did a shutdown -r
<3> oh snap :)
<0> Heh.
<2> and as it was shutting down to restart
<2> my cellphone starts ringing
<2> "WTF are you doing with my server? rah rah rah..."
<4> oops
<2> literally, it was like keypress, beep, ring
<5> oops indeed.
<3> liandrin: that's one of those ferocious sysadmins, they breed them on a volcanic island.
<2> jgaddis, 99% of the time, there was no keyboard attached
<1> having acpi=ht in my kernel line in grub makes it not able to shutdown....removing it makes it work again. :o
<6> hey everyone, I'm running the proftpd daemon and I was looking for a front end to manage it, anyone have a recommendation on one versus another?
<2> exel, actually, this guy was hypersensitive because we'd had to shut down and restart his server several times, including a few without a proper shutdown
<1> trinsic, there's a really great front-end call VI. :-p
<3> liandrin: ah you manhandled his baby once too much eh?:)
<4> looking for a way to run a server without learning how to run it is not smart
<1> whitecap, tell that to Microsoft. :-p
<1> ....they'd be out of the server business if people upheld to that
<4> you have to pay one way or the other
<3> any turd can be polished into something that'll work
<3> just loadbalance the ****ers and you can keep it working
<3> sort of, kind of :)
<2> exel: this was during the Auckland Power Crisis of 1998
<3> liandrin: excuse me my NZ history is a bit rusty ;)
<2> exel: all our machines had been 'unexpectedly un-powered' at -least- once, possibly more
<3> ah right
<4> Liandrin: no m***ive ups ?
<2> exel: and his machine was sort of at the end of the list
<2> whitecap, we had one small UPS until the power actually failed
<2> whitecap, THEN we bought two 5 kVA UPSes
<4> heh
<2> we only had, like, at *least* a month's warning that Bad Things were going to happen
<2> and my boss did his best ostrich impersonation
<7> ho all
<8> smsie
<2> I did get a lot of satisfaction out of repeated "I told you so"s over the next fortnight ;)
<2> people in general have this bad habit of not listening to my warnings
<7> I told you sos aren't really all THAT satisfactory
<7> by the way, JMS ****ing *****s*
<3> liandrin: in holland we have this traditional "I told you so" dance, I have mastered its performance with glee ;)
<2> I can't quite work out if it's because I don't put my case across convincingly enough, or if people are just stupid
<2> the latter is, in my humble expert opinion, most likely
<2> exel: hah
<7> well, that's not quite true. The JMS documentation ****s. JMS itself is just stupidly slow for what it is
<2> smsie: you're right, they're not... but $17/hr for two extra weeks, when I'd just resigned $12/hr, wasn't too bad
<7> Liandrin: hehe
<3> liandrin: in answer to your question: people are stupid. You should start charging $250 for your opinions, then they'll listen.
<2> exel: eh, every time so far, I've been on the inside
<3> liandrin: then you're suspect so they won't listen.
<2> exel: so I've noticed
<3> trust me I tried
<2> ah well. fun as this conversation is, I have to go have my brain scanned
<3> I even learned their language
<3> made powerpoint and excel sheets predicting their doom and laying out what to do
<3> went right past them
<2> heh
<3> I gave up on that ****
<4> Liandrin: good luck
<3> indeed good luck on the scan
<7> Liandrin: make sure they choose a machine with high enough magnification
<9> the mr flood.
<7> Liandrin: blah! :)
<5> heya Coma
<10> ok, this is cool... I've just seen our product in action, on real live TV.
<11> is there any easy way of escaping characters in shell scripts?
<8> telos: \
<7> telos: \
<12> http://steve-parker.org/sh/escape.shtml <--- telos
<11> yeah but it's in a variable
<7> telos: or \\
<13> smsie: you're a spammer.
<7> telos: it's quite hard to get the right number of \ to start with
<12> smsie might be a bacon griller instead - like spam, but tastier :)
<13> smsie: I have proof. Who else would send me an email from "bagpuss transceiver".
<7> I cannot tell a lie, it was I
<11> smsie i'm trying to convert my .doc to ODF with soffice... i need to p*** it an escaped string for the filename it seems
<11> some BASIC crap
<7> telos: put the string in ''
<11> yeah but i need the @foo
<11> i mean
<11> $foo
<11> inside the ''
<8> telos: "$foo"
<13> smsie: so, which european company wants to pay me k a week?
<11> yeah but that's not working either with this BASIC crap :p
<11> the code is just: for i in `ls *.doc`; do /Applications/OpenOffice.org\ 2.0.app/Contents/openoffice.org2.0/program/soffice -invisible macro:///Standard.Module1.SaveAsOOO\("`pwd`/$i"\); done
<7> whyzzyrd: clothcat computers
<8> what basic?
<11> works for some filenames.. not for others
<12> OldMonk: anything but visual :)
<11> taken from http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2006/01/11/from-microsoft-to-openoffice.html
<7> telos: what is being escaped? Spaces?
<8> ls *.doc | while read x ; do something with "$x" ; done
<11> let me try that..
<0> Nothing like buying weed off of your Executive Director of Human Resources...
<14> lol
<7> nice!
<14> good way to keep your employee's happy I figure.
<7> jgaddis: blackmail material!
<0> Hmm... weird how the newspaper will print a "letter to the editor" from the cop's wife, but won't print mine.
<7> jgaddis: you get arrested?
<0> No... a cop and a dispatcher did... for fraud. They basically slapped 'em on the wrist. The paper did an article on it and I wrote a letter to 'em.
<7> ouch
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