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<0> can i run macromedia flash and adobe photoshop on linux?
<1> EEEK
<2> Negura: the clients, yes. The actual editor; I don't think so.
<3> Negura: http://www.winehq.com
<4> K_F: come on, Photoshop is damn nice.
<1> Negura: http://www.kfwebs.net/articles/article/6/Why-Flash-is-a-bad-idea
<2> hmmm
<1> whyzzyrd: 80% of the time the user can manage with The GIMP
<1> I use the gimp myself, can't justify the price of PS
<2> flash isn't a bad idea perse, it has lots of oppertunities and is actually a standard.
<1> but yeah, PS is a great app..
<4> K_F: 80% yes. It's the 20% of stuff that PS is worth the money for. And some of the filters that are commercially available.
<2> you can even do movies with flash.
<1> Lion-O: yeah, I believe google video for one use it properly
<1> I doubt Negura would...
<4> muck fee. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/06/02/blouse_outrage/
<1> heh
<2> whyzzyrd: I wonder what tv set wouldn't choke over that ;)
<1> care to enlighten me why it would?
<2> K_F: I don't think it'd be pretty to watch in 4:3 full screen :)
<1> pretty no, but an apology for it?
<1> if every ugly chick ever on TV were to apologise for it
<1> we'd see more ugly chicks than hot chicks
<1> now, I don't want that anyways
<5> i use gimpshop and don't see the need for photoshop. especially considering the price. but i'm not a graphics professional
<0> Demonen
<3> Negura
<0> installing that i will can use windows programms on linux?
<3> not all of them, but some, yes.
<1> if you are serious you'd look into Crossover
<1> http://www.codeweavers.com/
<2> now, here's an odd idea; why not use /Windows/ for the job?
<1> Lion-O: I'd say mac really, but ok :)
<0> i just wanna use flash and photoshop
<1> what I'd do if I was a professional graphics artist or movie editor anyways
<2> so get Windows, install 'm, be done with it.
<5> if you coughed up the cash for photoshop, i suppose you could cough up the dough for crossover. but for me, i haven't had anything run in crossover that didn't run in wine. maybe i don't use the right apps
<1> have a dedicated mac for it..
<5> i think if i were a pro, i'd still use linux. but if my company were paying, i wouldn't be against a mac for work
<1> larson9999: don't get me wrong, I'd use linux for everythign else
<1> and I'm not a profressional graphics artist, so I _do_ use linux for everything :)
<5> i'm just using linux only these days... except where work makes me use something else.
<5> since i'm not a graphics artist i don't really know linux can get the job done.
<1> larson9999: inkscape is improving, so is the gimp
<5> i'm the same way on sound. my old isa sound card and crappy speakers seem just fine to me
<5> k_f yeah they are both good enough for my level of descernment
<5> i think i'm finally going to get around to some game coding and will be using one or both for that.
<1> larson9999: but if $work paid for mac && PS I'd use it :)
<5> k_f me too. but just for work. i'm really pushing for oss whenever possible and exclusively for personal use.
<6> hey, I got a dream job - I actually get paid to push linux :)
<5> nice
<6> downside is - the linux I am to push is suse SLES :(
<1> DaveHowe: hehe
<1> its not too bad though
<6> although they *will* sell DeadRat if pushed
<6> <grumble>
<2> I'll have one dead rat and one sushi please :P
<5> lol. well, i don't get into the distro flame thing. my only real beef is with those distros that advocate running as root. i just don't get that philosophy.
<5> actually, i'm not against other os's. i just am for open source. open just about everything, really. i'd like to see cars go open source, for instance.
<1> I can tell you one thing though, I'd probably never hack my car's software
<1> w00ps segfault in method break()
<1> damn
<4> K_F: there's a guy I know does program his own engine management..
<1> whyzzyrd: probably a mechanic / working with cars though?
<6> Lion-O: onna stick or inna bun?
<2> DaveHowe: ahooga
<5> k_f i was also talking the design of the whole car
<7> what is the comanda to open the ports from a linux server ?
<4> K_F: erm, more an enthusiastic amateur.
<2> GeouTzu: that makes no sense.
<7> iptables -I INPUT -p tcp --dport <port> -j ACCEPT
<1> whyzzyrd: well, that was teh second part of the / :)
<7> is not work
<1> whyzzyrd: I leave everything to the auto-dealership myself
<2> GeouTzu: a port is "opened" once something starts listening to it. As for iptables: www.iptables.org, RTFM.
<1> a .ro wanting a port openened ... 5:1 says kiddie
<2> K_F: *nod*
<1> et] -!- channels : #Linux @#d3vilz #www.ebay.com @#flyproject @#cnmb
<2> K_F: probably a script kiddie trying to get a fishing site online.
<1> and phisher
<2> but darwin was right after all :P
<4> K_F: http://www.bgsoflex.com/megasquirt.html
<1> whyzzyrd: hehe
<7> Lion-O i want to opened 80 port to my server ! what`s the command ?
<4> K_F: that's on a 4.9L V8.
<1> hmm, a fire, but the firedept hasn't showed up yet..
<1> nevermind, wrong window..
<5> i'm thinking about starting a business in which i make all oss stuff and of course open anything i create.
<4> larson9999: difficult to make money at it,
<1> whyzzyrd: unless you're a generic consultancy firm
<1> providing support and adapting other OSS solutions
<4> K_F: yup. like Easter-Eggs
<1> delivinger whole-solutions from many single-solutions
<5> i don't think it would be too hard to maintain my level. there are lots of projects that are out there that people want but don't want to build. little niches
<1> but still dificult unless you have contacts though
<1> larson9999: yeah, if you have contacts already, maybe
<5> k_f
<1> yeah
<5> the contacts are already there. lots of the home sites have posts of people will to pay if someone would build the project of them
<4> larson9999: largely the problem is becoming corporate acceptance..
<5> i'm thinking smaller
<4> larson9999: Managers are interested in "risk".
<1> whyzzyrd: more risk aversion..
<1> but fair enough :)
<4> larson9999: It's hard enough to get managers to accept that we might build a piece of software/utility internally..
<5> whyzzyrd: yeah but i'm talking the guy who want some gadget build that's on a hack site with posts the plans but the guy can't solder
<4> larson9999: Oh, you mean electronics. Not OSS then..
<5> really small just enough for me :) to start off with.
<5> whyzzyrd: well, open in general.
<8> Liandrin
<8> Lion-O
<8> Are you lamer .. ?
<4> larson9999: I do that sort of thing. I fix TV's videos, etc..
<1> sosoux: get lost
<8> you are use sunos but now you are admin thats linux channel. ..
<5> whyzzyrd: aha
<5> don't get people who think you can only use one os
<8> larson9999: no
<8> but linux differt world ..
<8> just i think ..
<4> you win
<2> no I didn't :)
<9> Lion-O: Are you sure?
<2> whyzzyrd: he was entering too slow for HH to respond anytime soonish so I also zapped him
<10> hi
<10> i need a flood detector for my linuc
<10> linuxx
<11> *chuckle*
<4> Maknenanzn: then your best bet is to wire something to a serial port..
<2> Maknenanzn: hmm? not much to detect there.
<12> I have a question
<4> Maknenanzn: when the water level bridges the contact, it'll lift a line, and you can detect it..
<12> Anybody got RH73 EXPLOIT ?
<6> plenty, thanks
<1> okay, I'm terribly lazy. I want to change the working directory into the directory I just created so I make a #!/bin/bash mkdir $1; cd $1; but that only works within the current script... how to make it global?
<11> ball =)
<12> whyzzyrd go **** yourself
<11> 8)
<13> feh
<4> mwilson: no game eh?
<1> heya yoz
<10> isnt there a program to log attackers?
<13> Define "attackers".
<10> some ppl sends packets and makes data floods
<1> so a DoS then
<10> yes
<2> "people". Please spell in here. The only thing about a DoS is to log the data.
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