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<0> hehe :D
<1> cappicard: Keep it up, cirrhosis is just around the corner.
<0> i'm not working tomrrow so i dont' give a ****!
<1> cappicard: ;)
<0> :)
<1> No work for me today, either. Compressed day ;)
<0> hehe
<1> cappicard: Five days, you'd think I'd do something interesting. Nope.
<1> cappicard: I'm too cheap.
<0> heh
<1> cappicard: In fact, I don't even give a toss about this country. I hate this city, I hate this province, and I'm pretty much to hating the whole country.
<2> Nanuq: where are you?
<0> ah, you poor thing. lol
<1> twonkbat: July 1st?
<1> cappicard: Poor me nothing.
<2> Nanuq: i don't follow -- july 1st is where you live?
<0> heh
<0> i'm probably not making any sense right now
<1> twonkbat: Yeah, like that movie Groundhog Day
<2> lol
<2> well at least it will be easy to remember
<1> twonkbat: Except I'm a Canadian stuck in July 1st, and I can't escape.
<2> i was in cananda for about an hour once, changing flights
<1> How did Bill Murray fix this problem in the movie?
<2> minisotta? if that's how you spell it
<1> didn't he get it on with some chick?
<1> twonkbat: the hell?
<2> Nanuq: it's not in canada is it...
<1> twonkbat: No, it's not.
<2> bollocks
<2> sorry
<1> twonkbat: Geographically, not too far.
<2> i need a good film for tonight
<2> any recommendations?
<3> dexters labaratory
<2> :o haven't watched that in ages
<3> :)
<2> found one: "lord of war" has caught my eye
<4> thres no way to do a fancy menu type thing w/dropdowns w/o using javascript, is there?
<5> I've always seen it with javascript.
<6> actually there are .
<5> doesn't mean there isn't another way, that's just what I've seen.
<4> Arasel, care to share the info you have?
<4> siggie: I hear ya there
<4> I can not use javascript, or object tags ... anything else can be done
<4> Arasel, if you are so sure there is a way, what ya got?
<6> Ypu can alter a dropdown without the need of a new post.
<4> I am not talkin about the `dropdown menu` from a form, but like, with fancy grahpics, and such ... like, a DHTML menu, w/o usin JS
<1> twonkbat: film eh?
<2> Nanuq: yeah, plan to get some friends over
<6> Steakk then search http://www.hotscripts.com/JavaScript/index.html there are tons of scripts/examples
<4> Arasel, what part of "without using javascript" is confusing you?
<6> w/o oh, now I see
<2> heh
<6> Steakk you mean like macromedia freehand does ?
<4> macromedia freehand?
<6> yes is for ms winduz, you can try a trial version, and see what it can do. I bet on it.
<6> there is also dhtml menu builder, and others software releases.
<6> a simple search on google for linux menu builder reveals a lot of freeware resources, as well. Most designers work today with css style integrated with xml schemas, and others elements for interactive, nice, eye-catching dropdown menu/list, despite the old fashion style with simple html list code, who is not deprecated, but has less visual impact to visitors.
<4> but, freehand looks like a graphics editor, fromwhat the website is shown
<4> showin*
<6> Steakk I say to try. I know what I'm talking about.
<4> Use FreeHand MX for creative design, storyboarding, multipage document production, and editing with an unparalleled set of creative design tools. Easily repurpose your designs for print, the Internet, or Macromedia Flash.
<4> I see nothing in there stating anything about web developement, menus, etc
<6> Steakk stfu. now!
<7> Steakk: Freehand was macromedia's illustrator counterpart
<4> Coma, basically, a publisher type thing from what i am gathering
<4> Arasel, watch it. Dont yell at the regulars here, else you will be gone
<7> More an illustation tool, like adobe's illustator ;)
<4> ah, my bad. (long day) . okay, if its an illustration tool, how is it going to help create a DHTML type menu using CSS/XHTML?
<4> thats where my confusion is coming into play.
<1> John!
<7> Steakk: If you're looking at tools from macromedia, you probably want dreamweaver or fireworks
<7> Heyo Eric
<6> Steakk I'm not yelling, do the graphics with freehand, if you want, then mix it with fireworks. ouch, seems I need coffee
<4> Arasel, never once did I mention i wanted to do create my own graphics for this thing...and tellin me to `stfu!` is considered yelling. Now, go get your coffee, and cool it.
<7> Ah, it's dreamweaver you want. Fireworks is more like adobe's image ready
<4> Coma, I am not looking at macromedia specifically ... just something to help me generate a decent menu 800x26
<4> drop down type thing (horizontal menu with dropdowns)...w/o using JS (thats one of the restrictions)
<7> Hmm, without JS?
<4> correct
<4> from things I have read, it IS possible...but, nobody says how
<7> Actually, plain html and a little stylesheet magic will work too
<4> thtas the catch 22 ... when it comes to CSS, I know less about it than the average man knows about women
<2> why are you keen to avoid js? out of interest
<7> Steakk: Google for "eric meyer", he's got the answer you're seeking
<4> twonkbat, its a restriction of what can be used, thats all. Client says 'no JS', so I dotn use JS
<4> heh
<2> oh, i see
<2> damn clients
<7> Steakk: Severely limiting your options though, no js. But it can be done in pure html & css
<4> Coma, I hope so ... now just to figure out where to begin
<7> Basicly, you stick the menus on a seperate layer and in the stylesheet set display: none; Then on your buttons you attach a someelem:hover and set display: block
<7> Simplest thing is to use unordered lists for you menus
<7> The biggest problem in getting this to work in both normal browsers and ie ;)
<4> http://www.seoconsultants.com/css/menus/horizontal/
<4> that should do the trick for me
<4> its 2am, so i will play w/it in th mornin
<4> nite all
<7> Night, Steakk
<8> coma: why have you not touched my lart? I feel left out *grin*
<8> haha
<8> ****in sad I am. I leave the PC to go to bed, and boot up the irc client on my blackberry
<7> Damn pathetic geeks :P
<9> Teakk: just wait, you'll be IRCing during *** soon
<8> heh
<8> libolt: that would require me to be ***ually actiive, heh
<8> Well, more active I guess
<2> anyone here seen trainspotting? http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/3618/15909rj.jpg
<2> roll on adminspotting :)
<9> Teakk: well next time you're in the act, it's best if you don't go, "Hold on a sec babe, gotta type up a response."
<10> libolt: is that bad ?
<11> *blink* LustiLisa was here? dang long time
<7> Was she?
<1> yeah, unfortunately
<11> or "hand on a sec I'll look it up online at "www.Tantric***.com"
<12> some people.
<12> hank did not :P
<13> revenger, heh, but hank is not here currently
<13> and is not an op
<13> but hey
<7> Revie: Hey, where'd pdx.* go?
<12> bewm?
<12> the rest of the machines are alive..
<7> Hmm
<12> no clue from remote syslog either.
<7> Hey Emerson
<7> Revenger: It looks as dead as dead can be
<12> cannot ping its lan ip either.
<12> doorstop mode.
<7> Hehehe
<12> nothing i can do.
<12> besides calling dana's uncle in the middle of the night to reboot it :P
<7> Now wouldn't it be a lot easier if it were a virtual machine? ;)
<12> sure it would.
<14> Unless the virtual machine's server splats, of course. :)
<15> need a p***port size photograph - seems the exact dimensions of p***port size is burried deep inside the net for me to be able to find it
<13> hmm, there are a bunch of howtos on how to create p***port photos
<13> though I do not know the exact dimensions
<13> here in .au a friend of mine tried for a while but htye kep knocking his attempts back due to colour issues, or lighting issues or something, he eventuually had some done in a photo booth
<13> he pissed off
<13> I wasted all that effort answering a question and he pissed off
<7> Wouldn't you normally get a slightly bigger photo and have it cut down to the proper size? That's what they do here atleast
<13> bastard
<7> Or rather, they don't stick actual photographs on p***ports anymore
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