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<0> I could use 9TB connected on a wicked line. 9TB at home would be wasted on me.
<1> at home is where i need it
<0> Why?
<2> you can do 9TB with just 12 discs these days
<3> pr0n, of course ;)
<1> ThomasM: i'm approaching my array limit right now at 420G. movies, music, virtual disks, backups, etc.
<4> Virtual disks are a killer for diskspace
<0> Yep.
<1> i'm looking at getting a 1600G raw array but i figure 9T is better than 1.6T :)
<1> PolarWolf: i wish vmware would support lvm partitions well
<1> then at least they wouldn't kill it in such an annoying way
<0> PolarWolf: My favorite was when I backed up one to a linux partition from NTFS, and then it refused forever after to let the file be put back on a FAT32 drive physically in the machine because of size limits.
<0> 1TB and a fast machine would make a beautiful VMware Server.
<0> Ultimate test environment right there.
<5> I have a problem getting ip traffic from a host on 192.168.1.0/24 via 192.168.1.1 (wifi) to 10.0.0.138 connected via ethernet and is set in bridge mode



<4> ThomasM: Yeah, but that's because FAT blows. Of course you can tell vmware to split things up in 2GB chunks just for this reason
<5> could someone help me please
<1> i'm running two virtual cluster nodes and a virtual load balancer on top of this dual core opteron
<5> is anyone upto to the task?
<4> I got a virtual RAC, but that's just because I wanted to see if I could
<4> And I could
<6> joeey: by definition, that wouldn't be a bridge, it would be a router
<1> PolarWolf: ditto :)
<5> router is 192.168.1.1
<1> PolarWolf: what'd you use for your storage?
<2> RAC?
<5> DaveHowe
<6> joeey: I am clearly not up to the task of understanding how you could think that would work
<4> OxD: FC disk array
<5> 10.0.0.138 is adsl modem in bridge mode
<1> PolarWolf: ah. real stuff. i had to make do with an lvm iscsi target
<4> OxD: This be on VMware Server, not ESX or something ***y
<1> joeey: what lead you to believe anyone here gives a ****? :)
<5> DaveHowe which part you are not sure about?
<1> PolarWolf: ditto
<4> OxD: "real" stuff? Hah, no, "real" would be doing it on ESX with a SAN backend as I have at my disposal at work
<5> OxD shoosh
<6> joeey: how you could believe that a bridge would do what a router would do, despite hints that you have ****ed it up something chronic
<1> PolarWolf: oh. thats not real san?
<2> joeey: you can probably change the adsl modem's ip address to match that of your LAN...
<1> PolarWolf: oh. no switch or anything, eh?
<4> OxD: Naw, more like DSA
<4> Err, DAS
<5> mod- I thought of that but then again
<1> gotcha
<5> I didn't want to get from under the sofa
<1> then how'd you get that to work with RAC?
<1> ie, how'd you share the storage?
<4> OxD: I have a hub, but it's so noisy I use a direct link
<4> OxD: shared disk file
<2> joeey: well now, maybe you should
<1> er
<1> oh
<1> cheater
<5> DaveHowe why do you think someone should have to routers connected one to another? bridge is more efficient in forwarding the packet I only need one router on my network
<1> you use gfs or did you snag a copy of veritas from work?
<4> OxD: There's no other way without ESX, Vmware server doesn't do RDM
<4> OxD: OCFS
<1> ah
<1> how was that to set up?
<4> OxD: Runs on CentOS
<5> mod- I can ping the modem from the router itself
<4> OxD: It took me two attempts
<5> by creating a virtual interface on the same submet
<5> but not from anywhere else
<1> PolarWolf: i did virtually the same thing but sub in gfs/rhcs for ocfs, mysql for oracle and iscsi for fiber
<4> OxD: It was reasonably easy once I figured out how to share disk files in vmware servers
<1> and the one thing i can't get working is the ****ing NAT on my load balancer
<4> OxD: Any clustered file system should do
<1> yep
<4> OxD: I also have shared ORACLE_HOME
<1> i didnt' do a true RAC setup. i only shared the data directory and a few startup scripts
<4> OxD: *nod*



<1> the binaries are, of course, identical
<4> OxD: That's generally better anyway
<4> And Ithink rolling upgrade requires it
<1> not really. if you share everything you can change everything on every server with one edit
<4> OxD: Yeah, but that's not always what you want :)
<1> true
<4> OxD: It was an interesting experiment for sure
<1> i brought both nodes down with a bad edit on the init script. 'status' started throwing errors to rhcs killed all the services
<4> OxD: And I'm going to expend it one day too with the Oracle IM components like SSO, OID, etc
<0> Back in a few weeks, likely.
<4> OxD: All set up in active/active clusters
<7> grr...tryin to throw a <style type="text/css"> into this page, and inside there, it replaces all # with &#035; .. pissing me off
<1> grr. now you're gonna make me want to get this NAT crap straightened out
<8> PolarWolf, ever worked with control panel s ?
<4> BattleNet: No
<4> Well, shortly
<8> ehm
<4> Enough to make me glad I got a real box with ssh access
<4> They're frustrating at best, at least for me
<8> i know
<8> but that's my company's area of work
<8> and i am about to join it this week
<1> how unfortunate
<4> cPanel?
<8> Plesk
<4> Congrats
<8> exactly i will have to chose between cpan or plesk
<8> and i haven't decided yet
<4> Just because you work somewhere doesn't mean you gotta like the products :)
<8> :)
<8> right
<1> PolarWolf: oh god how thats true
<8> but in your oppinion it would be best to chose to work with cpan or with Plesk ?
<4> BattleNet: I'm very underqualified for such an opinion. Ask fredk when he wakes up.
<8> as a linux server suport technician (support-tech) for a webhosting company
<8> receive client's tickets with their problem and i have to fix it
<4> you could do worse
<8> but i have control panels
<4> You don't have to fix your client's problems through control panels, do you?
<8> when something goes wrong you don't know where to look cause the control panel desn't give any specific errors
<1> my kickstart didn't install vmware tools. wtf
<9> shuttle launch is T-11 mins
<4> Maybe it's out of date
<4> dogbert2: Are they sure this time?
<8> PolarWolf, sometimes i cannot resolve the problem without the control panel
<8> and that ****s
<9> PW...weather is a go for launch
<4> BattleNet: Greatly depends on the problem, really
<10> elsewhere I'm being told there's three minutes left on the T-9 hold
<9> 10 mins now...
<4> Lets hope it doesn't go boom
<8> for ex: i have to set mamba or frontpage only through the control pannel and it would be much nicer to set them working on the server
<9> 45 seconds remaining in built-in hold
<9> 20 seconds remaining in built-in hold
<8> so fredk is good with these things ?
<8> has a similar job ?
<10> course, I don't understand why all these people providing a blow-by-blow description of the shuttle launch don't realize that if the rest of us cared, we'd be watching :P
<9> countdown resumes ... 8 min 30 seconds
<11> I was watching it on CSPAN, which is providing better coverage
<9> 7 mins
<4> BattleNet: He runs a hosting provider
<11> MSN's doing it, but they're just doing the talking heads thing. they need to STFU like the guys on cspan
<9> there goes the access arm
<11> CSPAN's just listening to mission control
<4> do they still have a webcam there?
<4> In the control center, that is
<11> they probably have several
<9> APU recorders and prestart
<4> I remember watching that once


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